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Old 07-16-2008, 10:02 PM
Richard Drennan
 
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Re: Fan assisted and power vent category 1 furnace
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Originally Posted by Bob Harper View Post
Richard, category I venting only goes up to 83%AFUE. Above that, you need special venting such as AL29-4C listed to 1738 until you get up to Cat. IV when you can use plastic.

You seem to be bouncing all over. One minute we're talking about an aftermarket power venter used on an 80% furnace power vented out horizontally with single walled leaky pipe under positive vent pressure and now you're talking about vertical venting with single walled pipe to B-vent, which IS the normal, accepted, listed means of venting a Cat. I furnace under negative vent pressure.

IMC 801.9 Positive Pressure "Where an appliance equipped with a forced or induced draft system creates a positive pressure in the venting system, the venting system shall be designed and listed for positive pressure applications"


FYI, some techs will put a longer post purge on just to clear the exhaust gases so there're less chance of spillage or condensation at standby. In the case in point, once that power vent cycles off, you have warm moist gases trapped in the horizontal vent with no draft to evacuate them so they cool and condense as seen.

" Since the addition of the external draft inducer it increased the air flow thru the exchanger without increase of the flame, decreasing the flue gas temp and increased the flue pipe pressure causing condensation and leakage of the condensation and flue gasses by increasing the pressure exerted on the interior of the flue pipe. Do I need to continue?" --- Huh? I'm sorry but does anyone else see this as a cohesive thought?


"Might I remind you, This IS what I do every day for a living and I am the best at what I do." ---Well, at least you're humble.....

Have a good day, ;-)
Bob

I never was talking about a negative pressure vent, I was always talking about 80% furnaces and they have always in all applications used B-vent and single wall pipe verticaly and horizontally. I was refering to the addition of the second indercer. As for ajusting the post purge, on mondern furnaces thhe post-purge is factory set and is NON ajustable. as for the AFUE rating residential furnaces go as high as 84% and still use B-vent. But, keep your chin up, if you don't understand the combustion process and how you need the proper air to flame mixture to prevent condesation and keep the flue temp up I am sure I can direct you to the person or persons that can explain it to you, maybe in crayon.

In short I did not sign on to this web site to argue with somebody that thinks they know something that they have no clue and by saying you can not use B-vent and single wall flue pipe on a standard modern day residential furnace and saying that they can adjust the post purge time prooves they have no clue to the equipment or it's venting. According to you signature you work with fireplaces, why don't you stick to that and leave the furnaces to us. Goodbye for I am canceling my account. I do not need this garbage. I tried to help by answering a concern and all I got was critisized by somebody that only thought he knew the equipment before he knew the facts. Yes B-vent is not considered positive pressure. But we are only talking about 1/100 of an inch. Check it out...
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