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Victor DaGraca
05-30-2007, 04:54 AM
I've always call out improperly nailed roofing decks. How can you know that your pneumatic nailer actually struck meat?

I see a lot of misses.
Sloppy sloppy sloppy...
I wonder if the QA at the manufacturer or anywhere else along the line were asleep.

It's one thing to stand on a deck and miss... another in a "clinical environment"....

Inspectors race to check Sun City roofs before hurricane season

The Associated Press

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Home inspectors are rushing to check roofs in the Sun City Hilton Head development before the heart of hurricane season to see if trusses were properly built and can handle high winds.

Beaufort County is trying to hire as many as 10 temporary home inspectors in the coming weeks, county administrator Gary Kubic said.
An investigation last week found three of about a dozen homes inspected had improperly constructed roof trusses, Kubic said.
"That's enough to tell me that (problems) are out there, and we have to figure out a protocol to identify all of them and remedy them as quickly as possible," Kubic said.
The county wants to get the inspections done as quickly as possible. Hurricane season starts Friday, but the worst storms usually don't threaten the East Coast until August at the earliest.
The county's building code requires fastenings hold together in a 130 mph wind gust lasting three seconds.
Sun City Hilton Head is a sprawling development for people over age 55 started in the 1990s that will have 8,000 homes once it is finished.
Pulte Homes, Sun City's developer, will pay for any repairs and is discussing how to split inspection costs with the county, vice president of construction Mark Guenther said.
In most of the problem trusses, nails connecting one truss to another have split the lumber or protruded out the side of the wood instead of directly penetrating it. In other cases, nails shorter than the prescribed size were used and in some homes, the nails are entirely missing.
Since the problems came to light last month, Kubic said he has received more than 1,000 e-mails and more than 200 phone calls.
The county plans to hire temporary home inspectors with no ties to Sun City so there is no temptation to overlook any oversights, Kubic said.
The county also has filed a formal complaint with the state on behalf of Sun City residents asking the state to involve its inspectors and engineers.
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Jon Randolph
05-30-2007, 04:33 PM
I could tell by the sound. A dull thud and I have hit meat, a sharp pop and I missed.

James Duffin
05-30-2007, 06:13 PM
Sounds like you would need x-ray vision for this inspecton. A miss does not mean they did not move over and try again. Where are the AHJ inspectors in this process?

Jerry Peck
05-30-2007, 07:34 PM
A miss does not mean they did not move over and try again.

Does not matter, ALL shiners should be removed as they can, and do, back out and cause roof leaks.

If they missed and tried again, and hit, remove the misses, otherwise, you are leaving another problem behind.

The fix for both is basically the same - not pretty, and not cheap.

James Duffin
05-30-2007, 07:49 PM
AH....the perfect world....I wish I lived there. All nails in there proper place! :D

Bruce Breedlove
05-30-2007, 08:00 PM
Pulte Homes, Sun City's developer . . .

That little tidbit should make Sun City homeowners feel at ease.

Victor DaGraca
05-31-2007, 04:39 AM
Pulte Homes......... That jumped up and tickled the part of my paranoid brain that causes my eyebrows to bunch together, and asks the other part of my brain.... "should we be scared?"

I have yet to hear positive things regarding Pulte
Then again.... All that's ever written up is the bad stuff........

Jerry Peck
05-31-2007, 12:03 PM
I have yet to hear positive things regarding Pulte

Bill Pulte wanted things done right. Once the company grew, however, he lost control.

I worked for Pulte Homes in South Florida for 9 months, and in that 9 months he personally came down 3 times and had a meeting with all supt. and project managers, the president of Pulte South Florida, his underlings, etc. - stressing that things had to be done right, that that was how he got where he was and how Pulte Homes grew to be a national home builder. If have a lot of respect for him because he told everyone to do things right, I felt vindicated because it was what I was telling them, but ...

Each time after he left, the powers that be (above the supts.) ignored what he said and kept cutting corners on everything. He even came down and cleaned house once, replacing the project managers and higher ups, but their replacements did the same thing.

All in only about 9 months (that was about 20 years ago) - that's how bad it was, and ... I imagine ... still is.

One of his sons, Mark, worked on some of the same projects I did, his houses were the worst. That apple fell very far from the tree. Bill Pulte knew how to do it, but national companies are more beholden to their stockholders than they are to their clients/customers (so it appears).

So, is that a few good words about Pulte homes? Unfortunately, no, it is only a few good words about Bill Pulte, Pulte Homes is a different matter. :(

David Banks
05-31-2007, 02:24 PM
I did some concrete work for them in the Denver area back in the 80's. The Super on the job did seem to care about the quality.