Vent pipe covers

[Ryan Stouffer]

Is this an acceptable way to cover a sewer vent pipe? I don't think that I have ever seen metal over a plastic sewer vent.

Thanks,

Ryan

[Jerry Peck]

No.

Not acceptable at all - it is completely the wrong type of flashing, and the only proper way to fix it is to remove that and install the proper flashing.

[Ryan Stouffer]

Jerry, so the correct flashing is the typical rubber or plastic material that you usually see, correct?

Thanks,

Ryan

[Tony Mount]

Ryan, Jerry's post is just his opinion, "Not acceptable at all - it is completely the wrong type of flashing, and the only proper way to fix it is to remove that and install the proper flashing." This flashing could be sealed and a collar installed and it would work fine, May not be the norm but "acceptable", for keeping rain from entering the attic. Don't tell anyone how to repair anything, or what is acceptable. The seller seals that flashing and Jerry rejects it and it is Jerry's Butt in a sling.

[Jerry Peck]

Jerry, so the correct flashing is the typical rubber or plastic material that you usually see, correct?

If you are looking for failure in the future when the rubber dries out and cracks ;) , otherwise install a real lead flashing over it.


Ryan, Jerry's post is just his opinion, "Not acceptable at all - it is completely the wrong type of flashing, and the only proper way to fix it is to remove that and install the proper flashing." This flashing could be sealed and a collar installed and it would work fine, May not be the norm but "acceptable", for keeping rain from entering the attic. Don't tell anyone how to repair anything, or what is acceptable. The seller seals that flashing and Jerry rejects it and it is Jerry's Butt in a sling.

Ryan,

Always use caution when reading anything Minimalist Tony writes as he "accepts" stuff which is not done correctly as meeting his level of "acceptable", unlike most of us here who believe our clients deserve, and are paying for, things done correctly.

Then again, Diamond Tony would take the diamond ring he found on the dresser and say "finders keepers, losers weepers", or the cash found in the wall, or ... just a total lack of ethics there ... so why not look out for the seller instead of your client ... :rolleyes: (Note to clarify this last statement: Tony told us both things here on this board. Tony, correct me if I am incorrect and misunderstood what you said.)

[A.D. Miller]

No.

Not acceptable at all - it is completely the wrong type of flashing, and the only proper way to fix it is to remove that and install the proper flashing.

JP: Though it is an ugly installation you could salvage it with a storm collar.

[Scott Patterson]

JP: Though it is an ugly installation you could salvage it with a storm collar.

Why? :)

[Jerry Peck]

JP: Though it is an ugly installation you could salvage it with a storm collar.


Why? :)


I will add to Scott's "Why?" by asking "How?".

Meaning "How would you do it correctly with a storm collar?".

First, you are improperly using an improper flashing and you would be attempting to add an improper piece to an already improper flashing.

[A.D. Miller]

I will add to Scott's "Why?" by asking "How?".

Meaning "How would you do it correctly with a storm collar?".

First, you are improperly using an improper flashing and you would be attempting to add an improper piece to an already improper flashing.

JP and Scott: I did not say you should, only that you could add a storm collar.:D

[Jerry Peck]

JP and Scott: I did not say you should, only that you could add a storm collar.:D


Well, yeah, you COULD take a leather belt, wet and soak it in water, stretch it, then tie a belt around the top of that flashing, and, when the belt dries and shrinks it should be held nice and tightly.

But that is not the way you presented "could". :p

[A.D. Miller]

Well, yeah, you COULD take a leather belt, wet and soak it in water, stretch it, then tie a belt around the top of that flashing, and, when the belt dries and shrinks it should be held nice and tightly.

But that is not the way you presented "could". :p

JP: Coulda, woulda, shoulda, but damn, did not.:eek:

[Tony Mount]

Jerry, you know darn well you are incorrect, The damage is done so who cares if its true or not.

[Dom D'Agostino]

Lead plumbing boots are not used in all parts of the US.

[Markus Keller]

The joys of opinions, here mine.
Yes you can install a storm collar and caulk the crap out of it with solar seal or butyl. It will likely last a long time. However, what you are essentially providing is a repair solution that a) will fail and b) will require maintenance
The "correct" way of course would be to replace the flashing with the right one. Either the full neoprene style or the sheetmetal style with the neoprene collar around the top.
Fight away:D

[Jerry Peck]

Jerry, you know darn well you are incorrect, The damage is done so who cares if its true or not.

I care if it is true, I am remembering it as you told it, correct me if I am wrong so I can remember it differently.

[Jerry Peck]

Lead plumbing boots are not used in all parts of the US.


I know, sometimes they use those cheap rubber ones, that is why I also referenced them too "If you are looking for failure in the future when the rubber dries out and cracks ;) , otherwise install a real lead flashing over it."

[Brandon Whitmore]

I've got some buddies that install roofs for a living. They say that they see more of the lead ones fail than the rubber ones. I'm pretty sure it all comes down to the competence of the installer. I would say that the rubber ones are easier to install, which is probably why they are seeing less issues with them.

I tend to see issues with both systems. The rubber boots crack, and the lead caps are often not properly installed. For the price, most people would probably rather just replace/ repair the damaged rubber boots.

As for the initial post/ picture. There are plenty of ways that you could make that work, but I'd never sign off on something that was not designed for that purpose........... just in case.