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Marc M
11-19-2009, 08:11 AM
I am looking for a software program that is more-or-less identical to Inspecvue in function and appearance. It also needs to take my existing inspectvue comments and transfer them over. I have pretty much demo-ed all the larger programs. I'm kinda throwing my hands up at this point.
I wonder how much it would be to create your own software? $5-10,000? more, less?

Bob Elliott
11-19-2009, 08:19 AM
I am looking for a software program that is more-or-less identical to Inspecvue in function and appearance. It also needs to take my existing inspectvue comments and transfer them over. I have pretty much demo-ed all the larger programs. I'm kinda throwing my hands up at this point.
I wonder how much it would be to create your own software? $5-10,000? more, less?

The program below (Home Inspector Pro) has a special port over for Inspector view and best support in the business.
Just go to the Homeinspectorpro.com message board and see how many have switched over.
Email me if you ever have any questions as we are a community of HIPPIES.

Home Inspector Pro Holiday Special - $150 OFF! - InterNACHI Message Board (http://www.nachi.org/forum/f11/home-inspector-pro-holiday-special-150-off-45220/)

Chuck Lambert
11-19-2009, 08:53 AM
Marc,

Look into 3D as their software will migrate your content from Inspectvue.

Chuck

Marc M
11-19-2009, 09:26 PM
Dont think I tried these two...will do this week thanks much.

Joe Klampfer
11-19-2009, 11:58 PM
when I finally threw in the towel on Inspect-Vue a couple of years ago, HomeGauge converted my narratives over automatically with minimal clean-up. Best move I ever did.

Ron Bibler
11-20-2009, 04:06 AM
I stop using Inspvue.and started using MS WORD. WIZIWIG. I just added Dragon naturalyspeaking now I just walk around on the job and speak my report out and he computer types away. buy the time I walk away from the
inspection I'm done with the report.

This is so fast. takes less then 4min a room or about 10 to inspect a kitchen and type at the same time. in less then 3 hr I can inspect a 3 bedroom 2 bath 2 car garage with a deck and I'm DONE...:D get back to the office install photos and the report is complete in another 30 min...

Best move ever...

Ron

Joe Van Orsdol
11-20-2009, 07:10 AM
I stop using Inspvue.and started using MS WORD. WIZIWIG. I just added Dragon naturalyspeaking now I just walk around on the job and speak my report out and he computer types away. buy the time I walk away from the
inspection I'm done with the report.

This is so fast. takes less then 4min a room or about 10 to inspect a kitchen and type at the same time. in less then 3 hr I can inspect a 3 bedroom 2 bath 2 car garage with a deck and I'm DONE...:D get back to the office install photos and the report is complete in another 30 min...

Best move ever...

Ron

What is WIZIWIG?

Matt Fellman
11-20-2009, 12:32 PM
I think he means WYSIWYG - stands for what you see is what you get

As opposed to typing in input fields and the report being compiled 'behind hte scenes'

fwiw.... I use an MS Word documnet and am very happy with it.

Bob Elliott
11-20-2009, 12:49 PM
I tried everything
Word based docs are slow and cumbersome.
If you do over 100 pictures a job get HIP as it will load them in seconds and allow quick annotation.
You also can have defect comments show in the summary and get a nice left side index to separate sections.

Just had a fellow inspector show off his new T91 tablet that is great for click through on site reporting
if you do that.
It also runs on Mac ,which even HG does not.

JB Thompson
11-20-2009, 04:36 PM
I use Interspect Voice.

I walk about with a wireless mic and talk my report and when I take photos, I say "add photo" and it inserts a tag. When I put my media card into my computer, each photo just goes into the right spot.

Marc M
11-20-2009, 09:18 PM
Anone use inspectfaster?

Jeff Knight
11-21-2009, 10:22 AM
Anone use inspectfaster?

InspectFaster ??? Never heard of it. Who makes it ?

Do you currently have a PocketPC device that you have used with InspectVue ?

Roy Cooke sr
11-21-2009, 12:29 PM
Home Inspection Software - InspectFaster Home Inspection Software for Mac and Windows (http://www.home-inspection-software.com/)


Convert InspectVue Home Inspection Software Libraries (http://www.home-inspection-software.com/import-inspectvue.php)

Jeff Knight
11-21-2009, 12:38 PM
Home Inspection Software - InspectFaster Home Inspection Software for Mac and Windows (http://www.home-inspection-software.com/)


Convert InspectVue Home Inspection Software Libraries (http://www.home-inspection-software.com/import-inspectvue.php)


It was called InspectMaster before. Just do a search of InspectMaster and I think you will get your answer on that software.

Martin Hewitt
11-23-2009, 11:32 PM
Roy Cooke Sr. is correct. InspectFaster very easily converts your InspectVue libraries into InspectFaster templates. To test it yourself, just download the trial version by visiting our website at Home Inspection Software - InspectFaster Home Inspection Software for Mac and Windows (http://www.home-inspection-software.com).

Thanks,

Martin Hewitt
InspectFaster Home Inspection Software

Roy Cooke sr
11-24-2009, 05:28 AM
It would be nice to hear from some one who use or did it use InspectFaster Soft ware and get their opinion on how well they like it .

Thanks Roy

Bob Elliott
11-24-2009, 07:19 AM
It would be nice to hear from some one who use or did it use InspectFaster Soft ware and get their opinion on how well they like it .

Thanks Roy

I tried it when it came out and had all kinds of bugs as the software ate up my resources.
The owner claimed it did not work well with regular PC'S. .

He also promised free copies to anyone who wrote an honest review but lied about it.
Support is non existent practically and the owner did not even write the program but paid someone to do it from what I recall.

Whenever Photos were added, the program would shut down and freeze up my laptop and I had to get rid of the thing.

The owner has been discussed many times as being unethical on different forums.

if you try it and get it to work, good luck to you.

Roy Cooke sr
11-24-2009, 07:25 AM
I tried it when it came out and had all kinds of bugs as the software ate up my resources.
The owner claimed it did not work well with regular PC'S. .

He also promised free copies to anyone who wrote an honest review but lied about it.
Support is non existent practically and the owner did not even write the program but paid someone to do it from what I recall.

Whenever Photos were added, the program would shut down and freeze up my laptop and I had to get rid of the thing.

The owner has been discussed many times as being unethical on different forums.

if you try it and get it to work, good luck to you.

Thanks Bob you have helped many with Your post.
Those who have it might now get it fixed and those who will not want to buy it if they do not get support.

Roy

Bob Elliott
11-24-2009, 07:28 AM
Thanks Bob you have helped many with Your post.
Those who have it might now get it fixed and those who will not want to buy it if they do not get support.

Roy

I just did a search into the past, but I saw a thread that it was sold one year ago.
The bitter taste was in my mouth from before then ,so perhaps things have changed.

There were many angry posts in regard to the old owner which may have caused the sale.
I will post further ,if I have time to research later today.

Bob Elliott
11-24-2009, 07:52 AM
I just did a search into the past, but I saw a thread that it was sold one year ago.
The bitter taste was in my mouth from before then ,so perhaps things have changed.

There were many angry posts in regard to the old owner which may have caused the sale.
I will post further ,if I have time to research later today.


I need to run out for an Inspection but here is the first thread I got when typing in for info.

Strongly suggest members read this post.

InspectMaster/InspectFaster Software - InterNACHI Message Board (http://www.nachi.org/forum/f31/inspectmaster-inspectfaster-software-39599/)

Martin Hewitt
11-24-2009, 09:34 AM
Although this is old news (being kept alive by Bob Elliot, who apparently suffers from some weird disease that prevents him from letting go of the past), it is absolutely true that InspectMaster, which was released about 3 years ago, and was the precursor to InspectFaster, had quite a few out-of-the gate bugs, and in retrospect should never have been released until they had been worked out, and then released as a beta version once it had been released. However, I was (and still am) a working-stiff home inspector, was new to the software business, and was very anxious to release the software. It is also absolutely true that in my hurry to launch the software I inserted many narratives into the Master template that came directly from my InspectVue library, which was the software I had been using at the time. I thought because I had been using the software and made changes to what I felt were most of the narratives, I could just copy and paste them all and that all would be okay. Big mistake. I had to answer to Keith Swift for that mistake. And I apologized to him for doing it. And all the nasty stuff on the NACHI bulletin board started appearing.

Not long after that, HouseMaster of America threatened to sue me if I did not stop using the name InspectMaster as the name of the software. After going a few legal rounds with them, I decided to relent, and changed the name from InspectMaster to InspectFaster. Another painful experience.

But I kept moving forward. Over the last three years, InspectFaster has evolved into very stable, very easy to use software and is being sold at a very affordable price ($299.00). There are currently over 250 inspectors using the software, and it is a rare day that I receive a complaint from any one of them. If I do, I act immediately to make sure that they get what they need. Our customer support is excellent.

In a couple of weeks, probably around December 15, we will be releasing version 3.0, which is currently being beta-tested. :) InspectFaster 3.0 was written by a very experienced (and very expensive) software programmer who is at the top of his game. All I contributed was 16 years of home inspection experience and the narratives that came out of that experience. All those narratives being entirely my own, of course.

If you are an earlier user of InspectMaster or InspectFaster and have not yet upgraded to the latest version of InspectFaster, I encourage you to do so now. It is a free upgrade. If you have not yet tried InspectFaster, and especially if you are a user of InspectVue looking to make the switch over to something else and want to bring your library with you, I encourage you to try the software. I think you'll like what you see.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this. Hopefully this will clear the air and also help my detractors (especially Bob Elliot, who will pretty much say anything about any of the other software out there in order to help sell a copy of Home Inspector Pro) get over whatever it is that ails them, and help them to move on.

Martin Hewitt
ASHI Member 202935
CREIA Master Inspector #39
Owner, InspectFaster Home Inspection Software

John Dirks Jr
11-24-2009, 06:48 PM
I'm an MS Word man too.

Hey Ron, I like the Dragon naturallyspeaking idea. Are there different versions or levels. Which one do I need?

Roy Cooke sr
11-24-2009, 07:23 PM
I'm an MS Word man too.

Hey Ron, I like the Dragon naturallyspeaking idea. Are there different versions or levels. Which one do I need?
John ,This might help... Roy

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Bob Elliott
11-24-2009, 08:46 PM
Although this is old news (being kept alive by Bob Elliot, who apparently suffers from some weird disease that prevents him from letting go of the past), it is absolutely true that InspectMaster, which was released about 3 years ago, and was the precursor to InspectFaster, had quite a few out-of-the gate bugs, and in retrospect should never have been released until they had been worked out, and then released as a beta version once it had been released. However, I was (and still am) a working-stiff home inspector, was new to the software business, and was very anxious to release the software. It is also absolutely true that in my hurry to launch the software I inserted many narratives into the Master template that came directly from my InspectVue library, which was the software I had been using at the time. I thought because I had been using the software and made changes to what I felt were most of the narratives, I could just copy and paste them all and that all would be okay. Big mistake. I had to answer to Keith Swift for that mistake. And I apologized to him for doing it. And all the nasty stuff on the NACHI bulletin board started appearing.

Not long after that, HouseMaster of America threatened to sue me if I did not stop using the name InspectMaster as the name of the software. After going a few legal rounds with them, I decided to relent, and changed the name from InspectMaster to InspectFaster. Another painful experience.

But I kept moving forward. Over the last three years, InspectFaster has evolved into very stable, very easy to use software and is being sold at a very affordable price ($299.00). There are currently over 250 inspectors using the software, and it is a rare day that I receive a complaint from any one of them. If I do, I act immediately to make sure that they get what they need. Our customer support is excellent.

In a couple of weeks, probably around December 15, we will be releasing version 3.0, which is currently being beta-tested. :) InspectFaster 3.0 was written by a very experienced (and very expensive) software programmer who is at the top of his game. All I contributed was 16 years of home inspection experience and the narratives that came out of that experience. All those narratives being entirely my own, of course.

If you are an earlier user of InspectMaster or InspectFaster and have not yet upgraded to the latest version of InspectFaster, I encourage you to do so now. It is a free upgrade. If you have not yet tried InspectFaster, and especially if you are a user of InspectVue looking to make the switch over to something else and want to bring your library with you, I encourage you to try the software. I think you'll like what you see.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this. Hopefully this will clear the air and also help my detractors (especially Bob Elliot, who will pretty much say anything about any of the other software out there in order to help sell a copy of Home Inspector Pro) get over whatever it is that ails them, and help them to move on.

Martin Hewitt
ASHI Member 202935
CREIA Master Inspector #39
Owner, InspectFaster Home Inspection Software

I think just the part you admit to is enough Mark.

Now where are those free licenses that you promised so many.....?
What kind of support do you offer new users......?
Did the software guy explain enough that you have gone from knowing nothing to being an expert....?

I feel HIP is the best but also say it like it is in that many choose other fine programs out there that i feel are higher quality with good support and proven track records.

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There is a deal going where you can purchase Dragon for $49.99 out there and I will post if I find it again.
I have been using Dragon for 5 years and it does come in handy on occasion for long narrative style reporting, such as homes with many issues.

I also recommend anyone try Active Words as it has saved me time in reports and just surfing the web.

It is a better deal than Dragon as you can have as many computers added as you wish.

This is a short cuts program that gets better the more you use it.
You can type a key letter or any combination to not only type ,but also to open files, pictures,Text,HTML codes,or whatever your imagination comes up with.
Very easy to use.
ActiveWords (http://www.activewords.com/)

John Dirks Jr
11-25-2009, 05:40 AM
I saw it for $49 on the Nuance site but that was for the "Student" version, meaning, you must prove you are an active student to do the installation.

Bob Elliott
11-25-2009, 07:43 AM
I saw it for $49 on the Nuance site but that was for the "Student" version, meaning, you must prove you are an active student to do the installation.

How about this one......https://shop.nuance.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPage&Env=BASE&Locale=en_US&SiteID=nuanceus&id=ThreePgCheckoutAddressPaymentInfoPage

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11-25-2009, 08:15 AM
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Jack Feldmann
11-25-2009, 06:23 PM
After reading this thread I look up InspectFaster and tried to download the sample.
I had a little trouble and sent an e-mail to Martin asking for help. To my surprise he responded very quickly, AND IT WAS SATURDAY NIGHT. I got it loaded on my Mac and played with it some, and then wanted to try to transfer my Inspectvue library over.

For a variety of reasons, and probably most if not all were self inflicted, I just could not get the library to load. Martin and I e-mailed each other at least four times and he finally fixed my problem and sent me the right file. This is all for someone that is just going to try the sample out, not even a paying customer.

I am very pleased with what I have seen so far. I have close to five years and countless hours getting my libraries to where I want them. I do not want to re-invent the wheel. I also would really like to have all of my computing done on Macs and not have to deal with Windows based laptops.

Unless something comes up that is a deal killer, I will likely purchase InspectFaster. I may wait and see him in Las Vegas in January at the ASHI conference and see first hand all the features.

Lorne Steiner was the best in customer service. He was very patient with me, and my really stupid questions. I was not only trying to learn a new software program, but I was also trying to learn Windows at the same time. I felt the same level of customer service from Martin.

While looking at the Nachi thread about the software was interesting, it really didn't change my mind about anything.
Just my experience and thoughts. Your mileage may vary.

Marc M
11-25-2009, 07:26 PM
I think so far I like inspectfaster. I will wait to see what 3.0 looks like.
I wish the guys who made inspectvue would come up with a new program.

Dominic Maricic
11-25-2009, 07:38 PM
I think so far I like inspectfaster. I will wait to see what 3.0 looks like.
I wish the guys who made inspectvue would come up with a new program.

Lorne & Keith who made InspectVue don't own the company any more, so that's unlikely. A few guys have told me the new company is coming out with 5.0, but that's been circulated for awhile so it's hard to know for sure.

Marc M
11-25-2009, 09:18 PM
Lorne & Keith who made InspectVue don't own the company any more, so that's unlikely. A few guys have told me the new company is coming out with 5.0, but that's been circulated for awhile so it's hard to know for sure.

Yes, I understand that they sold the company, just wishful thinking.
As far as the new program, I have trial tested it and it's pretty nice. That was in September. I have been in contact with a programer there who was asking for advice or suggestions for the new program. I suggested a search feature. We'll see.

Thomas Hauswirth
11-28-2009, 11:33 AM
I have been experimenting with Inspectfaster and am happy with the program and customer service. Martin has been very fast to respond and courteous in his replies to my questions.

Though the software is not as robust in options as some of the more popular software packages out there (and I have downloaded and tried pretty much all of them) it produces an attractive report in a reasonable amount of time. In my opinion some software packages can be overwhelming in their interfaces, options, and configurations. By design, I feel that Martin has put a lot of thought and effort into the program to develop a clean, intuitive, and easy to understand and use interface that is easily editable and not overwhelming. I am looking forward to see what the new version offers.

Marcel Cyr
11-29-2009, 06:04 AM
You guys need to try HIP, I had a choice with another reporting software and it was no match for this one.
Customize it anyway that suits your reporting needs and go.
Excellent tutorials to help out and a Service that is second to none in the industry.
Dominic has helped me more times than I can count, and don't matter what day or what time.
Easy to use and works on Mac.
Get your free trial and try it out, it will surprise you. The printed report looks excellent too and you can make it as colorful as you wish.
No need to print out the report, just Email it to the client if you wish.

Very satisfied customer. :)

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Bill Boerner
11-29-2009, 10:48 AM
You guys need to try HIP, I had a choice with another reporting software and it was no match for this one.
Customize it anyway that suits your reporting needs and go.
Excellent tutorials to help out and a Service that is second to none in the industry.
Dominic has helped me more times than I can count, and don't matter what day or what time.
Easy to use and works on Mac.
Get your free trial and try it out, it will surprise you. The printed report looks excellent too and you can make it as colorful as you wish.
No need to print out the report, just Email it to the client if you wish.

Very satisfied customer. :)

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Marcel your absolutely right. I've been using HIP now for along time and I can honestly say once you get your library built anyone can simply write a professional narrative report with pictures in 40 mins or less. Ok 40 mins to fill in the blanks, assign library comments, assign pictures and then 10 mins or so to read your product. This software is easy to use and my reports are some of the easiest to read in the industry. Take it from me spend 600-900 on others or spend 499 or less on HIP. You won't regret it. Try it out. You can share templates with other HIP users and as long as you're not in my area I'll send you my own custom templates and you'll be up and running in minutes.

PS. I get custom support directly from the programmer. He simply takes over my desktop, fixes anything I messed up. I've even had him help me in the middle of the night on several occasions.

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Roy Cooke sr
11-29-2009, 10:59 AM
I use the Carson Dunlop Home Reference Book .
Report on site when I leave Client is happy and I am happy about 3 hours ~ .
No work at home... 11 years works for me .

Roy Cooke

Bill Boerner
11-29-2009, 12:40 PM
I use the Carson Dunlop Home Reference Book .
Report on site when I leave Client is happy and I am happy about 3 hours ~ .
No work at home... 11 years works for me .

Roy Cooke

Roy how much are the referrence books? Also, what software do you use for your reports?

Jack Feldmann
11-29-2009, 01:19 PM
I just downloaded the sample report system from HIP. I have to say I am less than impressed. I did not care for the ratings system of good, bad and ugly, the checkbox style and it was not at all intuitive for me to use right out of the box.

I do realize that any software needs to be tweaked, and all of them take some getting used to. However, I found this one very cumbersome and very underwhelming.

As far as Carson Dunlop books go, all I have to say is OMG! While they are impressive books, I find them way too much information for the typical home buyer, and the cost of the books is just crazy to use as a regular inspection report. I used to use a paper reporting system, and realized what I was paying each year and got a little sick.

While I do think that paper reports are a great tool for people starting out, because they keep you on task and make it very clear when you have not inspected something, they are very expensive in the long run.

That said, before I switched to a computer system, my life was much simpler, and I did not have to deal with computer or internet issues and head aches.

I played with the InspectFaster software some more this weekend, and will likely go with that one. While I really like Inspectvue, I am concerned about what may happen when they finally go down the tubes.

Roy Cooke sr
11-29-2009, 01:22 PM
I pay about $35;00 Canadian per book in lots of 100 .
I have no soft ware.

Yes I know that works out at $3,500;00 per 100 inspections .
I also spend about 300 hours per 100 inspections
From what I read others with soft ware spend about 500 hours per 100 inspections plus the cost of the soft ware .
I also have read w by an expert witness in Court 42 times 39 where Computer generated and only three where check list reports.
I must be doing some thing correct as I seem to have very satisfied customers as I charge $450;00 per inspection in an area where all charge less then I do and some as low as $250;00 .
Incedently the Expert has all different computer programs and he too uses a check list report.
This Inspector is pleased with the check list.
No way will I change .
Hope I answered all your questions and thoughts .
Roy Cooke

Dominic Maricic
11-29-2009, 01:28 PM
I just downloaded the sample report system from HIP. I have to say I am less than impressed. I did not care for the ratings system of good, bad and ugly, the checkbox style and it was not at all intuitive for me to use right out of the box.

I do realize that any software needs to be tweaked, and all of them take some getting used to. However, I found this one very cumbersome and very underwhelming.

As far as Carson Dunlop books go, all I have to say is OMG! While they are impressive books, I find them way too much information for the typical home buyer, and the cost of the books is just crazy to use as a regular inspection report. I used to use a paper reporting system, and realized what I was paying each year and got a little sick.

While I do think that paper reports are a great tool for people starting out, because they keep you on task and make it very clear when you have not inspected something, they are very expensive in the long run.

That said, before I switched to a computer system, my life was much simpler, and I did not have to deal with computer or internet issues and head aches.

I played with the InspectFaster software some more this weekend, and will likely go with that one. While I really like Inspectvue, I am concerned about what may happen when they finally go down the tubes.

Jack, I wouldn't say it's fair to comment on a program less than 20 minutes after downloading it (that's not including the time to download and install it). Did you at least watch the one tutorial on the overview of Home Inspector Pro? The ratings can easily be changed or removed. Click on Report Settings->Ratings. You're definitely entitled to your own opinion but we have several thousand users in 13 countries and 5 languages, and dozens of templates and I've yet to hear of anyone who hasn't liked it (but I've had quite a few users switch from other programs being discussed to ours).

It sounds to me that you like InspectFaster better because it's very much like InspectVue (which is why Keith Swift has discussed suing them), from how the program works to how the end report looks. If you'd like me to put you in touch with guys who've switched from InspectVue, just let me know and I'll provide you with a long list of guys you can talk to. I understand staying with what's comfortable, but I'd make sure the tech support and program is there. Take it for a spin on some live inspections and make sure it works properly. Look at some other important issues, like how often the program is being updated, how long it takes between versions like 2.0 and 3.0.

Check out our message boards: Home Inspection Software - Home Inspector Pro - Home Inspector Pro Forum - Index (http://www.homeinspectorpro.com/inspector-forum/) . I believe it's the largest of any software , and the only one open to the public, BEFORE purchasing. You can talk to any current users.

Bill Boerner
11-29-2009, 01:38 PM
Jack, I wouldn't say it's fair to comment on a program less than 20 minutes after downloading it (that's not including the time to download and install it). Did you at least watch the one tutorial on the overview of Home Inspector Pro? The ratings can easily be changed or removed. Click on Report Settings->Ratings. You're definitely entitled to your own opinion but we have several thousand users in 13 countries and 5 languages, and dozens of templates and I've yet to hear of anyone who hasn't liked it (but I've had quite a few users switch from other programs being discussed to ours).

It sounds to me that you like InspectFaster better because it's very much like InspectVue (which is why Keith Swift has discussed suing them), from how the program works to how the end report looks. If you'd like me to put you in touch with guys who've switched from InspectVue, just let me know and I'll provide you with a long list of guys you can talk to. I understand staying with what's comfortable, but I'd make sure the tech support and program is there. Take it for a spin on some live inspections and make sure it works properly. Look at some other important issues, like how often the program is being updated, how long it takes between versions like 2.0 and 3.0.

Check out our message boards: Home Inspection Software - Home Inspector Pro - Home Inspector Pro Forum - Index (http://www.homeinspectorpro.com/inspector-forum/) . I believe it's the largest of any software , and the only one open to the public, BEFORE purchasing. You can talk to any current users.

Jack download my sample you may have a change of mind. It's customized and it's a breeze to do a report in no time at all.

St. Louis Home Inspectors, St. Charles, Home Inspections, Manchester, Florrisant, St. Peters, Commercial Inspections (http://www.stlhomeinspector.com)

Marcel Cyr
11-29-2009, 01:56 PM
Jack, you did not spend enough time in the sample.

Believe me, I was a computer illiterate not to long ago, and even this Caveman can do it and like Dom said, the good the bad and the ugly can be removed or changed to something like Billy has. Check out Billy's sample.
I don't do many inspections and switching to a paper report to software like Dominic's was hard for me to accept due to all the computer knowledge required, but something not Software Companies would do is spend the time and energy to talk you through it.
I still have a lot to learn, but after a few hours of use, comes along just fine.
Dominic has even taken over my computer to fix problems not even related to HIP and while in there update the software.
Now this is a service you will not find elsewhere.
I agree that one has to go with something he is comfortable with, but this software sure pleased me after about the fifth time I used it and just keeps getting better.
Bob and Billy have Master the program, and me just a slow learner in computers, but would not trade it in for anything.

Like the saying went to Mikey, Try it You'll Like It. :D ;) :)

John Kogel
11-29-2009, 02:48 PM
Dominic has even taken over my computer to fix problems not even related to HIP and while in there update the software.
Now this is a service you will not find elsewhere.
DM is always available, does not sleep. :)
He gives freely of his vast knowledge and has saved me $100's in things like SEO and other non-report issues.
My webpage soared to the top of Google search page with guidance from DM, given out for free.
The program is customizable and it is good. The support when you need to get something out and you hit a glitch is probably the most important issue with computer software, IMO.

Thomas Hauswirth
11-29-2009, 03:32 PM
I agree with everyone about Dom and his software. He's a great guy and very committed and vested in his product. The help and knowledge he has provided home inspectors is outstanding. I also think that HIP has one of the best methods of handling pictures and inserting them into reports out there. I would probably be using it except for two things:

1. I use a significant number of drop down boxes in my comments and the current version does not offer that option, though Dom did let me know the option is on its way soon.

2. There are no aliases or shortcuts for comments. This is a personal preference on my part, but I find it hard to scroll over all the comments to find the one I need when each comment is represented by its starting sentence. So, for example, if I have a comment regarding a defect such as an open ground instead of just scrolling to a alias (e.g. the word open ground) on the list I have to read the sentences or remember where the comment appears on the list. Even though other software programs also do this I personally find that they way the comments available for selecting are displayed on the HIP interface make them hard to read and choose.

If anyone has any tips on this I would consider using HIP. But in my personal experience with the program, without aliases or shortcuts the program interface feels too unwieldy for me to comfortably and efficiently use.

For now I will continue to migrate to Inspectfaster from InspectIt.

Dominic Maricic
11-29-2009, 04:23 PM
I agree with everyone about Dom and his software. He's a great guy and very committed and vested in his product. The help and knowledge he has provided home inspectors is outstanding. I also think that HIP has one of the best methods of handling pictures and inserting them into reports out there. I would probably be using it except for two things:

1. I use a significant number of drop down boxes in my comments and the current version does not offer that option, though Dom did let me know the option is on its way soon.

2. There are no aliases or shortcuts for comments. This is a personal preference on my part, but I find it hard to scroll over all the comments to find the one I need when each comment is represented by its starting sentence. So, for example, if I have a comment regarding a defect such as an open ground instead of just scrolling to a alias (e.g. the word open ground) on the list I have to read the sentences or remember where the comment appears on the list. Even though other software programs also do this I personally find that they way the comments available for selecting are displayed on the HIP interface make them hard to read and choose.

If anyone has any tips on this I would consider using HIP. But in my personal experience with the program, without aliases or shortcuts the program interface feels too unwieldy for me to comfortably and efficiently use.

For now I will continue to migrate to Inspectfaster from InspectIt.

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the kind words. You're right, we pride ourselves on tech support and helping the inspector community (even those that don't use our software). Make sure any program you do buy has someone around during the day. Programs like Jeff Knights, HomeGauge, and ours always have someone available. Some of the others have no one during the day as they may be working somewhere else, or have switched to email only.

The drop down box feature is about to go back out to our beta testers to try out with final release next month. I had hoped to have it done this month but I've been building a new website for CREIA which has been taking up quite a bit of time. We have several other large features which are being finished up as well, like the search feature Bob Elliott and others have asked for, our new diagram drawing section and much more. The fact that it includes residential, commercial, mold, septic, pool and many other templates and the way the program handles photos (batch add hundreds of photos in seconds) is a big drive to the program. We are also now fully integrated with InspectionSupport.net (the beta testers have this version at least, public will be soon).

Home Inspector Pro's features are controlled by the HIP community. When someone suggests a new feature it's discussed by inspectors on the board to make sure we're not creating a bloated program (as a few programs have become). We don't add a feature without going through the guys first. The alias option was brought up by someone awhile back and there wasn't a single other person who thought it was a good idea. It was unanimous that it would just complicate the program (even by the original poster). What we did instead was add an option to make the column widths adjustable. Make sure you have the columns set 1 so that you can see the first 20 words or so of your narrative. Hovering over them will show you the rest of the comment. Also, if you downloaded in the past, make sure you have the most up to date version. We update every 2-3 months and have a major 2.x to 3.x update every 2.5 to 3 years. If you can show why a 3-4 word description beats out the first 20 words of a narrative, please bring it up on the boards and see if other guys support it.

Also, most guys sort their comments (hit Edit Comments) by using the move up/down button and some even add separators to section off comments within an area. It makes things stand out more.

Chuck Lambert
11-29-2009, 05:39 PM
Marc,

Or anyone looking for software. One thing to make sure of!! Whatever system or software you choose to use make SURE when all is said and done your report meets your chosen SOP's. It is amazing how many inspectors post sample reports that contradict themselves and/or do not even come close to meeting their associations SOP's or State's SOP's.

Chuck

Jack Feldmann
11-29-2009, 06:02 PM
Correct, I only spent a very little while trying to get a feel. However, I have done that with Homegauge and 3D as well, and managed to work with it pretty quickly.

It may be that I am just tired from a long weekend away from home - or maybe not.

I will keep an open mind, and will try it again.

About customer service, please look at my previous post about InspectFaster.

But I have to say, it will be an uphill road for me, because frankly, I didn't care for the layout in the first place. I'm not saying its a flawed product at all. I'm also not saying that the one I'm using is the best on the planet. I'm just saying that from the brief glance, it does not appear to be to my taste.

I spent several years being a report verifier for ASHI. I probably looked over several hundred reports. I have to say that most narrative reports look very similar anyway. For someone to sue someone else because the reports look the same seems like a hard battle to fight.
Software similarities is another thing, but the report format?? They all are pretty similar IMHO.
For the longest time Pillar to Post forms did not fully meet the ASHI SOP. It was pretty funny (to me anyway). They were missing the location of the gas supply.

Ted Menelly
11-29-2009, 06:39 PM
Correct, I only spent a very little while trying to get a feel. However, I have done that with Homegauge and 3D as well, and managed to work with it pretty quickly.

It may be that I am just tired from a long weekend away from home - or maybe not.

I will keep an open mind, and will try it again.

About customer service, please look at my previous post about InspectFaster.

But I have to say, it will be an uphill road for me, because frankly, I didn't care for the layout in the first place. I'm not saying its a flawed product at all. I'm also not saying that the one I'm using is the best on the planet. I'm just saying that from the brief glance, it does not appear to be to my taste.

I spent several years being a report verifier for ASHI. I probably looked over several hundred reports. I have to say that most narrative reports look very similar anyway. For someone to sue someone else because the reports look the same seems like a hard battle to fight.
Software similarities is another thing, but the report format?? They all are pretty similar IMHO.
For the longest time Pillar to Post forms did not fully meet the ASHI SOP. It was pretty funny (to me anyway). They were missing the location of the gas supply.

That is actually funny. I know .. we have to say where everything is ....but seriously ... who the heck cares where the gas meter is located outside. Maybe if there is a main shut off in the house or a manifold to shut individual items or the whole house off. Again, I have never been asked by anyone where the gas meter is.

I am sure you meant shut off .. right?

Dan Harris
11-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Jack download my sample you may have a change of mind. It's customized and it's a breeze to do a report in no time at all.
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Bill, do your standards require you to report on, vapor barriers, condition of walkways, drive and patio surface, combustion air for the gas furnace and water heater, condition of HVAC filter, presence of heating and cooling in every habitable room, and functional water flow?

Bob Elliott
11-29-2009, 09:26 PM
Regarding what Dom said,you want a program with support and you need to check what others are saying before spending any amount of money.
If Inspect faster or what ever alias it is being sold under this quarter is purchased do you think a working Inspector that did not even design the program and stole narratives will be able to help you much when you need it.

I see nothing but trouble ahead.
Anyone that wants help with HIP is free to contact me or Dom as he is always one Google chat and ready to help.
The program is very easy to use and does more than anything else out there.
just check the samples and see the index for instance and think how easy it makes surfing the report for both your client and their Agent.

JB Thompson
11-29-2009, 09:39 PM
Though I don't use HIP for my inspection software, I do use Dominic for my websites. The guys are right. Dominic is always there to answer any questions and even fix the problem himself! It's as if he is my personal web guy - available 24/7. I personally don't see how he manages to have that kind of personal service with so many clients.

Like I said before, I use Interspect Voice. Steve is in the DFW area and is very responsive when it comes to the software. He's gotten on my machine remotely several times only to find out that I was the problem :) He's even gone beyond the call of duty and corrected other problems with my machine unrelated to inspecting. He's added several of my suggestions to make Interspect better.

Use the software that works best for you - obviously. But make sure you use a product that has excellent support.

I couldn't be more happy with Steve or Dominic

Bruce

*Bruce Thompson is not a paid actor playing the part of an inspector. No animals were hurt in the making of this email.

Marc M
11-29-2009, 11:29 PM
What I am NOT looking for is any check boxes that describe issues. For example, common cracks.
Check boxes are okay for describing finishes etc... But not for issues. Too subjective.
I want an all narritive report and the option for pics at the end of side of report comments.
Oh yea, searchable comments, the kitchen sink and a bucket of chicken.
Anyone seen eInspections™ (http://einspections.net) software? It's pretty nice.

Dominic Maricic
11-30-2009, 12:28 AM
What I am NOT looking for is any check boxes that describe issues. For example, common cracks.
Check boxes are okay for describing finishes etc... But not for issues. Too subjective.
I want an all narritive report and the option for pics at the end of side of report comments.
Oh yea, searchable comments, the kitchen sink and a bucket of chicken.
Anyone seen eInspections™ (http://einspections.net) software? It's pretty nice.

Hey Marc,

Dan & Chris are the guys who own eInspections and InspectionSupport.net. The are great guys. We just finished a new version of our program which integrates with their InspectionSupport.net (ISN). They are extremely hard working and if you like their program, I'd highly recommend them.

Dominic Maricic
11-30-2009, 12:30 AM
Though I don't use HIP for my inspection software, I do use Dominic for my websites. The guys are right. Dominic is always there to answer any questions and even fix the problem himself! It's as if he is my personal web guy - available 24/7. I personally don't see how he manages to have that kind of personal service with so many clients.

Like I said before, I use Interspect Voice. Steve is in the DFW area and is very responsive when it comes to the software. He's gotten on my machine remotely several times only to find out that I was the problem :) He's even gone beyond the call of duty and corrected other problems with my machine unrelated to inspecting. He's added several of my suggestions to make Interspect better.

Use the software that works best for you - obviously. But make sure you use a product that has excellent support.

I couldn't be more happy with Steve or Dominic

Bruce

*Bruce Thompson is not a paid actor playing the part of an inspector. No animals were hurt in the making of this email.


Thanks Bruce :) You worked hard to get your site to where it is (#1 on Google). I just helped guide you!

Jack Feldmann
11-30-2009, 06:29 AM
Ted,
Yes I did mean the location of the main shut off valves.

I actually do have a lot of clients that make it a point to find out where all that stuff is, both the out of State folks, and the ones that follow me around.
JF

Thomas Hauswirth
11-30-2009, 08:23 AM
Dom,

I am going to download another trial version onto my new laptop and try what you suggested. As always your posts are helpful, positive, and informative.

Marc M
11-30-2009, 08:58 AM
Hey Marc,

Dan & Chris are the guys who own eInspections and InspectionSupport.net. The are great guys. We just finished a new version of our program which integrates with their InspectionSupport.net (ISN). They are extremely hard working and if you like their program, I'd highly recommend them.

Hey Dom,
You use their software now? It appears fairly simplistic and user friendly, which is a plus.
Also, I get requests from time to time to go to your area...PM me with some info and I can send the agents your way if you're interrested.

Dominic Maricic
11-30-2009, 10:36 AM
Dom,

I am going to download another trial version onto my new laptop and try what you suggested. As always your posts are helpful, positive, and informative.

Sounds good. Let me know if you have any questions!

Dominic Maricic
11-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Hey Dom,
You use their software now? It appears fairly simplistic and user friendly, which is a plus.
Also, I get requests from time to time to go to your area...PM me with some info and I can send the agents your way if you're interrested.

Hi Marc,

No, I'm the owner and main programmer for Home Inspector Pro, not an inspector :) We do have a ton of inspectors out here using our program though, so let me know if you need a referral. Where are you located?

I work closely with the Chris as we've integrating their InspectionSupport.net (awesome system) into our software.

Jeff Knight
11-30-2009, 01:56 PM
I agree with everyone about Dom and his software. He's a great guy and very committed and vested in his product. The help and knowledge he has provided home inspectors is outstanding. I also think that HIP has one of the best methods of handling pictures and inserting them into reports out there. I would probably be using it except for two things:

1. I use a significant number of drop down boxes in my comments and the current version does not offer that option, though Dom did let me know the option is on its way soon.

2. There are no aliases or shortcuts for comments. This is a personal preference on my part, but I find it hard to scroll over all the comments to find the one I need when each comment is represented by its starting sentence. So, for example, if I have a comment regarding a defect such as an open ground instead of just scrolling to a alias (e.g. the word open ground) on the list I have to read the sentences or remember where the comment appears on the list. Even though other software programs also do this I personally find that they way the comments available for selecting are displayed on the HIP interface make them hard to read and choose.

If anyone has any tips on this I would consider using HIP. But in my personal experience with the program, without aliases or shortcuts the program interface feels too unwieldy for me to comfortably and efficiently use.

For now I will continue to migrate to Inspectfaster from InspectIt.
Tom,
I would have to agree that these 2 features are a necessity to managing comments for an inspector. Especially if they are looking at being able to select them while they are doing their inspection in the field using the software.
The key is being able to have the most amount of comments possible to handle almost any scenario you run into but be able to manage them in a way so that it does not take a lot of searching and scrolling to find the one you are looking for.
Our software has had both of these features for over 5 years. You need to have a comment that has dropdown boxes or what we call picklist items in them. HomeGauge calls theirs SmartText. It enables the inspector to have one comment that can really be hundreds of comments. It contains the "meat" of the comment but then may contain some dropdowns for more specific areas of the comment. A real simple example may be "The inspection was limited due to ^limits^." and the dropdown ^limits^ contains a list of words or phrases you can pick from to finish and customize this comment. It is much better then having 20 or so comments that would cover the possible comments instead. This was one of the major flaws in InspectVue in my opinion.
The alias idea is also very important. We call it "Comment Labels". You can have a single word or two or even some short hand code that you have used in the past to represent a specific comment. It is at the beginning of any comment and helps you easily distinguish the comments from each other if they become rather long. This is not required and is an option for the inspector but is used extensively by our customer base.
Thirdly...which was not on your list but you also need to be able to group the comments together. With our system for example you can group all the comments for when you are inspecting the house and you are in the "Exterior" Section and in the "Siding" Step you can group all the comments pertaining to wood siding together and the aluminum siding together etc. This makes it faster and easier to find the comment you are looking for and makes it much more easily manageable.
We also manage pictures much better by letting the inspector tag them AS they are doing their inspection so that the pictures get embedded in the report when it is created automatically. No need for manual placement or even labeling them. It does not get any easier.
Sometimes just relying on the inspectors to decide what features are added to your software is not enough. As a software developer you need to really understand what they do and how they do it and hopefully ideas will come into your development process that will make sense for them. If these ideas do not make sense to them they will let you know.

Bob Elliott
12-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Although this is old news (being kept alive by Bob Elliot, who apparently suffers from some weird disease that prevents him from letting go of the past), it is absolutely true that InspectMaster, which was released about 3 years ago, and was the precursor to InspectFaster, had quite a few out-of-the gate bugs, and in retrospect should never have been released until they had been worked out, and then released as a beta version once it had been released. However, I was (and still am) a working-stiff home inspector, was new to the software business, and was very anxious to release the software. It is also absolutely true that in my hurry to launch the software I inserted many narratives into the Master template that came directly from my InspectVue library, which was the software I had been using at the time. I thought because I had been using the software and made changes to what I felt were most of the narratives, I could just copy and paste them all and that all would be okay. Big mistake. I had to answer to Keith Swift for that mistake. And I apologized to him for doing it. And all the nasty stuff on the NACHI bulletin board started appearing.


Interesting you should drop your product support.
InspectFaster Technical Support (http://home-inspection-software.com/technical_support.php)

Not very Industry Standard.

Not long after that, HouseMaster of America threatened to sue me if I did not stop using the name InspectMaster as the name of the software. After going a few legal rounds with them, I decided to relent, and changed the name from InspectMaster to InspectFaster. Another painful experience.

But I kept moving forward. Over the last three years, InspectFaster has evolved into very stable, very easy to use software and is being sold at a very affordable price ($299.00). There are currently over 250 inspectors using the software, and it is a rare day that I receive a complaint from any one of them. If I do, I act immediately to make sure that they get what they need. Our customer support is excellent.

In a couple of weeks, probably around December 15, we will be releasing version 3.0, which is currently being beta-tested. :) InspectFaster 3.0 was written by a very experienced (and very expensive) software programmer who is at the top of his game. All I contributed was 16 years of home inspection experience and the narratives that came out of that experience. All those narratives being entirely my own, of course.

If you are an earlier user of InspectMaster or InspectFaster and have not yet upgraded to the latest version of InspectFaster, I encourage you to do so now. It is a free upgrade. If you have not yet tried InspectFaster, and especially if you are a user of InspectVue looking to make the switch over to something else and want to bring your library with you, I encourage you to try the software. I think you'll like what you see.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to read this. Hopefully this will clear the air and also help my detractors (especially Bob Elliot, who will pretty much say anything about any of the other software out there in order to help sell a copy of Home Inspector Pro) get over whatever it is that ails them, and help them to move on.

Martin Hewitt
ASHI Member 202935
CREIA Master Inspector #39
Owner, InspectFaster Home Inspection Software


Not very Industry Standard.

Interesting you should drop your product support.
InspectFaster Technical Support (http://home-inspection-software.com/technical_support.php)

JB Thompson
12-09-2009, 10:39 AM
I agree with everyone about Dom and his software. He's a great guy and very committed and vested in his product. The help and knowledge he has provided home inspectors is outstanding. I also think that HIP has one of the best methods of handling pictures and inserting them into reports out there. I would probably be using it except for two things:

1. I use a significant number of drop down boxes in my comments and the current version does not offer that option, though Dom did let me know the option is on its way soon.

2. There are no aliases or shortcuts for comments. This is a personal preference on my part, but I find it hard to scroll over all the comments to find the one I need when each comment is represented by its starting sentence. So, for example, if I have a comment regarding a defect such as an open ground instead of just scrolling to a alias (e.g. the word open ground) on the list I have to read the sentences or remember where the comment appears on the list. Even though other software programs also do this I personally find that they way the comments available for selecting are displayed on the HIP interface make them hard to read and choose.

If anyone has any tips on this I would consider using HIP. But in my personal experience with the program, without aliases or shortcuts the program interface feels too unwieldy for me to comfortably and efficiently use.

For now I will continue to migrate to Inspectfaster from InspectIt.

Thomas,

Check out Interspect (http://www.interspectsoftware.com) Desktop with the voice module. I set the laptop in the kitchen and wear a wireless Plantronics microphone. For issues that I see commonly, I've created a
"QuickText". Each of these quicktext sentences (or paragraphs) has a voice tag so I merely say, "Add Ceiling Cracks" and the text goes into the document at the proper place. I then take a photo and if it looks OK, I say "Add Issue Photo" and a placement marker goes into the proper spot. Later, I insert my SD card into the computer and Interspect places all of the photos in their proper spot.

If you choose not to use the voice module, each quicktext can be labeled with the alias (voicetag) and you can scroll through the alias' to select the one you want.

Bruce

Bob Elliott
12-09-2009, 10:51 AM
Thomas,

Check out Interspect (http://www.interspectsoftware.com) Desktop with the voice module. I set the laptop in the kitchen and wear a wireless Plantronics microphone. For issues that I see commonly, I've created a
"QuickText". Each of these quicktext sentences (or paragraphs) has a voice tag so I merely say, "Add Ceiling Cracks" and the text goes into the document at the proper place. I then take a photo and if it looks OK, I say "Add Issue Photo" and a placement marker goes into the proper spot. Later, I insert my SD card into the computer and Interspect places all of the photos in their proper spot.

If you choose not to use the voice module, each quicktext can be labeled with the alias (voicetag) and you can scroll through the alias' to select the one you want.

Bruce

$1,000 is a nice chunk of change.
From the report sample I see no summary page or index.
It is not much of a finshed product considering you still need to download to the computer.
With HIP you just tap into a preset template that you can customize on the fly (you can have as many templates as you wish) and have a great looking report that helps you market ,rather than some check listy looking product.

Half that price and free always there personal tech support.

JB Thompson
12-09-2009, 11:38 AM
$1,000 is a nice chunk of change.
From the report sample I see no summary page or index.
It is not much of a finshed product considering you still need to download to the computer.
With HIP you just tap into a preset template that you can customize on the fly (you can have as many templates as you wish) and have a great looking report that helps you market ,rather than some check listy looking product.

Half that price and free always there personal tech support.

Not wanting to get into a discussion here about personal preference; however, there are index and summary documents. They are there for the using. If you're looking at my sample report on my website, I don't believe I put a table of contents on there and I only send the summary with the completed report.

There are also preset templates that are customizable. My report is anything but "check-listy". With that being said, in Texas our form is mandated by the state.

I'm not sure what is meant by, "not much of a finshed product considering you still need to download to the computer." ?? But whatever you meant by it, you're wrong.

I like Dom and use his web services; I think he's great. But I don't personally care for HIP. Unlike you, I'm also not trashing other guy's stuff either. I am merely offering a suggestion to a question posted by Thomas.

Bruce

Bob Elliott
12-09-2009, 01:03 PM
Not wanting to get into a discussion here about personal preference; however, there are index and summary documents. They are there for the using. If you're looking at my sample report on my website, I don't believe I put a table of contents on there and I only send the summary with the completed report.

There are also preset templates that are customizable. My report is anything but "check-listy". With that being said, in Texas our form is mandated by the state.

I'm not sure what is meant by, "not much of a finshed product considering you still need to download to the computer." ?? But whatever you meant by it, you're wrong.

I like Dom and use his web services; I think he's great. But I don't personally care for HIP. Unlike you, I'm also not trashing other guy's stuff either. I am merely offering a suggestion to a question posted by Thomas.

Bruce

Not trashing so much as noting the appearance of the final product in comparison.

If you state it is great but I find it is not ,then I should say something as that is why we are here.



In order to do the voice thing which has a poor history of accurate dictation you are trading ease of use, for great looking and ease of reading to the client.

HIP index is clickable to go straight to the section you are needing to view.
I would think this would be much bettor for lawyers,Agents and Clients .

When scrolling the borders can be color differentiated in HIP and to me other softwares just make my eyes blurry and feel confusing even to my trained eyes.

Hey as long as you are not using the report function as a marketing tool you are fine.
No issues.
If you state it is great but I find it is not ,then I should say something as that is why we are here.

JB Thompson
12-09-2009, 03:57 PM
Not trashing so much as noting the appearance of the final product in comparison.

If you state it is great but I find it is not ,then I should say something as that is why we are here.



In order to do the voice thing which has a poor history of accurate dictation you are trading ease of use, for great looking and ease of reading to the client.

HIP index is clickable to go straight to the section you are needing to view.
I would think this would be much bettor for lawyers,Agents and Clients .

When scrolling the borders can be color differentiated in HIP and to me other softwares just make my eyes blurry and feel confusing even to my trained eyes.

Hey as long as you are not using the report function as a marketing tool you are fine.
No issues.
If you state it is great but I find it is not ,then I should say something as that is why we are here.

I've got no problem with you having an opinion.

The table of contents is clickable.
It doesn't have borders. My opinion is that's too much for the eye.
Voice is wonderful. Works as it should. I'm guessing 95&#37; of the time, maybe better.
I get many compliments on my reports including ease of reading.

So what did you mean when you said, "not much of a finshed product considering you still need to download to the computer." ?

Also, what does this mean? "Hey as long as you are not using the report function as a marketing tool you are fine."

I understand everyone has their preferences. But when you state something about someone's software that is incorrect, then I feel obligated to correct it.

I'm attaching my report should someone want to see it (names changed to protect the innocent). Click through the TOC.

I'm not a salesman for Interspect. Years ago, I was using a Word document then purchased a $400 HI software based on a Word doc. It had several issues with it and 3 months later, I was test driving Home Gauge, HIP, Keith Swift's product and a couple of others. I selected Interspect on the lease option, tried it out for 3 months, liked it and purchased it.

Bruce

JB Thompson
12-09-2009, 04:29 PM
Sorry about that, my file was slightly larger than allowed.

Please click HERE (http://www.tylerhomeinspector.com/TRCC-Fee-Inspector.html)

and then click Sample Report

Dominic Maricic
12-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Bob,

If Bruce did that report in HIP it would look almost identical. He's in Texas and the report HAS to look like that. You're right it doesn't have bookmarks, but the main index is clickable which is more than many programs have. The only thing I'd say Bruce (I think I mentioned this to you before) is that the TREC cover page has to be page 1 and it's page 4 in your report. You'll want to get that fixed.

Bob Elliott
12-09-2009, 06:46 PM
I've got no problem with you having an opinion.

The table of contents is clickable.
It doesn't have borders. My opinion is that's too much for the eye.
Voice is wonderful. Works as it should. I'm guessing 95% of the time, maybe better.
I get many compliments on my reports including ease of reading.

So what did you mean when you said, "not much of a finshed product considering you still need to download to the computer." ?

Also, what does this mean? "Hey as long as you are not using the report function as a marketing tool you are fine."

I understand everyone has their preferences. But when you state something about someone's software that is incorrect, then I feel obligated to correct it.

I'm attaching my report should someone want to see it (names changed to protect the innocent). Click through the TOC.

I'm not a salesman for Interspect. Years ago, I was using a Word document then purchased a $400 HI software based on a Word doc. It had several issues with it and 3 months later, I was test driving Home Gauge, HIP, Keith Swift's product and a couple of others. I selected Interspect on the lease option, tried it out for 3 months, liked it and purchased it.

Bruce

opps I looked at the wrong report earlier.
Busy day with unexpected last minute extra inspection (rare in December for Chicago).

But you did mention the need to insert your SSD card and I would think that since you are using" voice "you must go back and correct all typos.

I have Dragon Naturally Speaking along with several other Voice dictation programs such as Vlingo,Yahoo search,Google Voice,Nuance voice control and one other on my recently retired Crackberry Curve that was replaced by my Android Moment.

I also spent a year using Jott before it came out of Beta and started charging a fee.

One thing these programs all have in common is that they mis-hear you and I would assume that a Bluetooth device would only make that worse,especially if you are in the basement.

That is what I meant by need to still spend time at the computer.
In a sense you are using the mic for notes and I do a good job of that just by using my camera.

You still need to go back ,download your photos and I assume massage the report.
to me that is extra steps.

Find me a voice program that does it all with no need to even look at the computer than hit the word upload and I will be impressed.

Trust me as being a tech head for gadgets and always looking for a better way.

I know everyone is different so I am glad you found something you are comfortable with.

Looks like a descent program.

JB Thompson
12-11-2009, 10:04 PM
Bob,

If Bruce did that report in HIP it would look almost identical. He's in Texas and the report HAS to look like that. You're right it doesn't have bookmarks, but the main index is clickable which is more than many programs have. The only thing I'd say Bruce (I think I mentioned this to you before) is that the TREC cover page has to be page 1 and it's page 4 in your report. You'll want to get that fixed.

Hey Dom,

So far everyone I had talked to (back when you mentioned it to me) said the report was in compliance. I'm going to call the man who wrote the SoP and ask him.

Stay tuned.

Dominic Maricic
12-11-2009, 10:09 PM
Let me know what you hear as I'm happy to give our guys more flexibility. Robert Miesel (spelling?) is the TREC attorney who told me this as well as the woman before him, and I've heard it from others too. You can send it to Brian Murphy who is on the inspector committee too.

Dominic Maricic
12-11-2009, 10:27 PM
You actually have another issue too: §535.223.
(D) the inspector may add a cover page to the report form;

This was asked to the committee and it as said that it is only 'a' page as they stated above. You have two pages before the TREC form.

That being said, I was told by the TREC attorney that the OP-I form could not be included in the same PDF as the report. It's taken about 6 months to get an official word otherwise. So not everything said is always correct!

JB Thompson
12-14-2009, 09:49 AM
Bob,

If Bruce did that report in HIP it would look almost identical. He's in Texas and the report HAS to look like that. You're right it doesn't have bookmarks, but the main index is clickable which is more than many programs have. The only thing I'd say Bruce (I think I mentioned this to you before) is that the TREC cover page has to be page 1 and it's page 4 in your report. You'll want to get that fixed.


Let me know what you hear as I'm happy to give our guys more flexibility. Robert Miesel (spelling?) is the TREC attorney who told me this as well as the woman before him, and I've heard it from others too. You can send it to Brian Murphy who is on the inspector committee too.


You actually have another issue too: §535.223.
(D) the inspector may add a cover page to the report form;

This was asked to the committee and it as said that it is only 'a' page as they stated above. You have two pages before the TREC form.

That being said, I was told by the TREC attorney that the OP-I form could not be included in the same PDF as the report. It's taken about 6 months to get an official word otherwise. So not everything said is always correct!

I spoke with Robert Miesel (I don't know spelling either). I described my report to him including the numbering and the table of contents. He said it was fine. The TREC cover page only has to be page one, if it is actually page one (paraphrased)

He said he was looking at a report right now that had no numbering, the inspection agreement was in there and it looked like "someone put it in a bag and shook it up". So he is pro-numbering in order to help the client find the information. He said if someone filed a complaint on my report based solely on the page numbering, he wouldn't give much credence to the complaint.

I don't include the OP-I in my report (were you talking about mine?) I send it to the client when they hire me.

Bruce

Dominic Maricic
12-14-2009, 11:26 AM
The OP-I form was an issue that we had and finally got the inspector committee to get an Devon and Robert to say it's okay to include with the report (inspectors had been told it had to be a separate document).

I'm surprised about the cover page as a prominent Texas inspector had brought up a big issue about wanting multiple cover pages and was specifically told that he could only have one. It would be nice if they could write these things down so people don't have to worry.

JB Thompson
12-14-2009, 01:50 PM
The OP-I form was an issue that we had and finally got the inspector committee to get an Devon and Robert to say it's okay to include with the report (inspectors had been told it had to be a separate document).

I'm surprised about the cover page as a prominent Texas inspector had brought up a big issue about wanting multiple cover pages and was specifically told that he could only have one. It would be nice if they could write these things down so people don't have to worry.

Why on earth would you have multiple cover pages? :)

You know, as I was talking to him, I was thinking, "boy it would be nice to have this in writing instead of his word against mine"

He intimated that they weren't concerned with the cover page/numbering etc.. issues as long as the report was not difficult for a client. He did express that the TREC cover page (as opposed to my cover page) had to have the client's name on it.

Thanks for everything. Have a Merry Christmas!

Bruce

Dominic Maricic
12-14-2009, 02:55 PM
Hi Bruce,

I totally agree with that. I got most of my answers now in an email which is good enough. You might want to email him to confirm that way you have a hard copy.

Merry Christmas to you too :D

Jeff Knight
12-15-2009, 09:52 AM
He intimated that they weren't concerned with the cover page/numbering etc.. issues as long as the report was not difficult for a client.



Hmmm.....maybe they should look at the whole structure of the report and see if it is difficult for a client. Yes....the cover page and numbering are the least of the issues with this forced formatted report.