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James Ramsey
01-16-2010, 08:05 PM
I'm thinking about having the whole vehicle signage installed on my inspection vehicle. Anyone got any pictures or comments on if it has helped you. How much did it cost?

A.D. Miller
01-17-2010, 09:00 AM
I'm thinking about having the whole vehicle signage installed on my inspection vehicle. Anyone got any pictures or comments on if it has helped you. How much did it cost?

JR: Change your mind. Even prostitutes do not use signage.

chris mcintyre
01-17-2010, 09:20 AM
JR: Change your mind. Even prostitutes do not use signage.

Prostitutes make good money but are embarrassed about the the profession they are in?

Markus Keller
01-17-2010, 09:21 AM
I've never had signs/decals on any vehicle and don't think I will. Really don't like the idea of being that visible. Being in the City break-in and license plates are an issue. I would check to see if putting stuff on your vehicle puts it into the commercial category which could mean higher license plate and city sticker fees. Also for me I wouldn't be able to use LSD if I had stuff on my truck, that would really increase travel time.
A friend has his company info in his back window only, he gets calls from time to time. Maybe MT will chime in, I know his inspection vehicle is covered, it looks good. Don't know ever he gets calls from it. MT where are you?

A.D. Miller
01-17-2010, 09:43 AM
Prostitutes make good money but are embarrassed about the the profession they are in?

CM: Yes, like most doctors, lawyers, scientists, et al.

Nick Ostrowski
01-17-2010, 10:17 AM
JR: Change your mind. Even prostitutes do not use signage.

Hmmmmmmm........home inspection vehicle + vehicle signage is comparable to prostitution.

Interesting.

Ted Menelly
01-17-2010, 10:17 AM
I have had letters and such on the sides and back of my vehicles forever and can probably count the amount of times I got a call from it.

I do find some of these wraps pretty intriguing. They catch my eye all the time. Some I think are pretty ridiculous but others are serious pieces of art that make you look. As long as the number stands out the most that would be pretty good. My last truck just had info on the back window as most of the time the folks that have time enough to note the name and number are behind you. Not when you blow by them at 70 on the highway.

You know that if someone is keeping up with you on the highway to get your info, it is either a cop or someone in desperate need of an immediate inspection :D You get the call and you have work. Or, you get stopped and you better get the work to pay for the ticket.

Besides. Your name all over your vehicle makes it a bad get away vehicle :p Yeah it was this guy 6 feet tall with dark hair and a big gorilla on the side of his truck :eek:

A.D. Miller
01-17-2010, 10:29 AM
Hmmmmmmm........home inspection vehicle + vehicle signage is comparable to prostitution.

Interesting.

NO: You made that connection, not I.:D

Rick Hurst
01-17-2010, 12:37 PM
Call me a prostitute then.

My company name is on my truck. Has it hurt me? All I can say is I've had numerous people call me either sitting beside me in traffic, in the drive thru, at the bank, while pumping gas all inquire about a home inspection. Many of those I have booked and taken money for.

Yes, I'm a prostitute but I have whored around some too.:D

rick.

Michael Thomas
01-17-2010, 12:46 PM
Hi Markus, actually it's rear-window only. I get 2-3 jobs a year from it, and it's garaged except when I'm on the road. First one paid for the signage, and in this economy, every little bit helps.

John Kogel
01-17-2010, 04:08 PM
CM: Yes, like most doctors, lawyers, scientists, et al.I have signs on the windows of my canopy (oops, that's Canadian for a truck cap).

If you're in the trades, signage shows you are legit, not a fly-by-night trunk-slammer. I believe signage is good for a home inspector who thinks of himself as a tradesman. For some people, it says "that's his fulltime job".

If you're above that because you work exclusively for wealthy clients who keep you booked fulltime, maybe you drive a black Escalade with no markings. :)

I would like to put wrap signs on a half dozen vans and just leave them parked in malls around town for a year, see if it helps. :)

A.D. Miller
01-17-2010, 04:43 PM
I have signs on the windows of my canopy (oops, that's Canadian for a truck cap).

JK: OK, and what is a "trunk cap" in the rest of the world?


If you're in the trades, signage shows you are legit, not a fly-by-night trunk-slammer.

JK: No, it simply means that you opted for signage.



I believe signage is good for a home inspector who thinks of himself as a tradesman.


JK: Yes, and I do not.


If you're above that because you work exclusively for wealthy clients who keep you booked fulltime, maybe you drive a black Escalade with no markings.

JK: I wouldn't own and Escalade.


I would like to put wrap signs on a half dozen vans and just leave them parked in malls around town for a year, see if it helps.

JK: That is old-school marketing which amounts to throwing as much crap on the wall as you can to see how much sticks. Or, said differently, blanketing your surroundings with your commercial feces for profit.

Nick Ostrowski
01-17-2010, 05:01 PM
JK: That is old-school marketing which amounts to throwing as much crap on the wall as you can to see how much sticks. Or, said differently, blanketing your surroundings with your commercial feces for profit.

Commercial feces. Hmmmmm.........

Rick Hurst
01-17-2010, 05:04 PM
I just got back from the CVS phamarcy to get my meds and while sitting in my truck, I had a young couple flag me down to ask about a HI. Seems they just heard their contract was accepted and was told by there agent to find a HI.

Booked it for Tues. afternoon and the great thing is its about 3 blks from the whorehouse here.:D

You just never know where that next "trick" will come from.

rick

Joe Laurieri
01-17-2010, 05:05 PM
I just ordered a2 inkjetted perforated vinyl signs which mimics my business card for the rear side windows of my Volvo wagon, I think it will help neibors from calling the cops when i park in front of the home to inspect.

It's happened a couple of times last year.

I think it's as far as i'll go.

May help recruit some business too....

John Kogel
01-17-2010, 06:25 PM
JK: OK, and what is a "trunk cap" in the rest of the world?
I don't know, but here's a pic of a "business coupe" with a trunk. :)

Yes, Joe, before signage, I used to get neighbourhood watchmen moving in to interrogate me, "Watcha doin' here?" :)

Don Burbach
01-17-2010, 06:31 PM
A few years ago I was in a hurry on a way to an inspection and I got a call on my work number which is forwarded to my cell phone.

The caller said she wanted me to know that my company's driver was discourteous and had just cut her off. I was polite, but realized she was right in back of me. I told her I would call my employee immediately and I slowed my work van down to less than the speed limit 30 seconds later on a two lane road where passing was difficult.

I am not sure she realized that she had talked directly to the drive, but I had a good chuckle. Of course, I was reminded that I wasn't anonymous on the road.

Has it got me any business? I am not sure, I've certainly given out some cards and flyers though. I am happy to talk to anyone who might need and inspection.

Jerry Peck
01-17-2010, 07:01 PM
A few years ago I was in a hurry on a way to an inspection and I got a call on my work number which is forwarded to my cell phone.

The caller said she wanted me to know that my company's driver was discourteous and had just cut her off. I was polite, but realized she was right in back of me. I told her I would call my employee immediately and I slowed my work van down to less than the speed limit 30 seconds later on a two lane road where passing was difficult.

I am not sure she realized that she had talked directly to the drive, but I had a good chuckle. Of course, I was reminded that I wasn't anonymous on the road.


That is why I removed the signs from my truck. :D

I was ALWAYS in a hurry, and in South Florida that usually meant me driving up and down the Turnpike at 90-95 mph ... not conducive to having signs on the vehicle for the reason stated above. Granted, most other people were also going 90-95 mpg, but I did get a couple of calls like that so I took my signs off. :D

Rick Hurst
01-17-2010, 07:25 PM
90-95 mph? Jerry, maybe you should have left the signs on so the coroner would be able to look up your business address from outside the vehicle looking at your signage and notify your family where they could pick up your remains.

Slow down man.:D

Jerry Peck
01-17-2010, 08:08 PM
Rick,

My two Chevy Astro vans would govern out at 95 mph, basically shutting the engine down until the speed dropped to about 90 mph, when the engine would lit back up ... I suspect the governor shut off the fuel supply to idle and then opened back up. I will tell you that the first time that happened and the engine shut down I thought it had died ... until it came back when the van slowed down.

My Chevy Express 1500 conversion van I bought in 2002 would govern out at 97-98 mph, but it was simply taper off on the engine, and with a slight lift of the throttle the engine would be there willing to go again.

I have slowed down, rarely go over 10 over the limit now, usually much closer to the limit, and in residential areas I keep it under 5 over and usually right near the speed limit.

Not in as much of a hurry as I used to be ... and speeding tickets in Florida have gotten EXPENSIVE too:
6-9 over the limit = $80.50
10-14 over = $155.50
15-19 over = $180.50
20-29 over = $205.50
30 & over = #305.50

Those are MINIMUMS, they may be higher based on what each county is allowed to add to them.

Speeding in school zones and construction zones and the fine can be doubled.

Speed through a school zone or construction zone and go to court to try to get out of it and you could end up paying $1,000.00.

They were talking about making the MINIMUM fine for 50 mph and over at $1,000.00 for first offense, $5,000.00 for second offense. Not sure if they ever passed that, though. That was in response to those motorcycles who would race down the interstate on their rear wheel with their front wheel in the air, but had to tone it down to include all types of vehicles because the law was not allowed to selectively pick out just motorcycles, so instead of just lifting the front wheels off the ground (which was still going to be in there) the speed was going to be 50 mph over the limit.

Being as I do not have any intention of driving with my front wheels off the ground or driving 50 over any more (yeah, I used to years ago, actually have driven 85 over on the interstates in years past) ... but there was no need for me to track those laws and see if they passed as I have no need or intention of driving that fast now.

Erby Crofutt
01-18-2010, 06:12 AM
You know, I depend on people knowing what I do so they can call me and give me money to work for them so I can put food on the table.

I have signs on my van and, because I ask people where they got my name, I know I get calls from it. I throw my "commercial feces" anywhere I can find to throw it (economically), including the back of my shirt. (You wouldn't believe how many conversations that started from seeing people reading the back of my shirt while standing in line lead to an inspection or radon test, i.e. money for food on the table).

I eat. I'm not complaining about a "business slow down". People know who I am and what I do.

If you're worried about getting calls chewing you out about your bad driving, perhaps you should become a better driver instead of losing work. You DO want to feed your family, don't you?

Yeah, I've gotten one or two calls, especially since my business number is my cell phone. I just tell em: "Send me a letter about it so I have documentation and then I'll fire the sumbitch!" Haven't gotten a letter yet but there's only been two calls that I can remember.

There are about 100 (so called) inspectors at any given time in my metropolitan area. Care to guess how many make a full time living at it instead of whining about not getting any business. I know of about 10.

A prostitute sells sex. I sell home inspections.

If no one knows what you do, no one calls you! I let everybody I meet, and a few I don't, know what I do to put food on the table.

I like to eat.


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Ken Rowe
01-18-2010, 09:42 AM
I agree with Erby. :cool:

Tom King
01-18-2010, 12:43 PM
I agree with Erby too.

Is Mr. Miller always so mean errr argumentative errr errrr vocal about his opinion on everything???

Eric Russell
01-18-2010, 01:29 PM
I've got 2 magnetics for both sides of my truck, but I'm considering getting the rear window lettered. I always ask my client, or for that matter, anyone who calls and checks price, where they heard about me. I've heard "your website," "your yellow book ad," "my realtor," "a friend," but no one has ever said anything about my signage. Still, I've been approached by nosy neighbors and cops asking what I was doing, when I didn't have the signs on, but never with them. I'm pretty sure in TN ya gotta have commercial tags to have signs, and if you're driving a commercial vehicle, then ya better have commercial insurance. Just some things to consider.

Rick Hurst
01-18-2010, 01:39 PM
Eric,

You make a good point. If your conducting business out of a vehicle and you don't have commercial coverage on it, your sitting yourself up for a nice lawsuit if your ever in a accident.

As far as the signage lets see. I booked my third inspection for a client who contacted me from the signage on my truck. (2) of the inspections have not worked out for her best interest so now she's booked a third.

1K+ $$$ all from a client who saw my signage. Yeah, I can say signage has paid for itself.

As far as the nosey neighbor, they still come over and ask if know anything about the buyers. I like to tell them that I heard its going to be a "halfway" home for drug addicts or abused women. The look on their face is priceless.

rick

Eric Russell
01-18-2010, 02:17 PM
As far as the nosey neighbor, they still come over and ask if know anything about the buyers. I like to tell them that I heard its going to be a "halfway" home for drug addicts or abused women. The look on their face is priceless.

I'll give that a try! :D

Nick Ostrowski
01-18-2010, 02:28 PM
As far as the signage lets see. I booked my third inspection for a client who contacted me from the signage on my truck. (2) of the inspections have not worked out for her best interest so now she's booked a third.

1K+ $$$ all from a client who saw my signage. Yeah, I can say signage has paid for itself.

rick

That's some pretty valuable commercial feces ya got there Rick.

A.D. Miller
01-18-2010, 03:06 PM
I agree with Erby too.

Is Mr. Miller always so mean errr argumentative errr errrr vocal about his opinion on everything???

TK: I believe that argumentation is a positive term and not negative as you might have us believe. Perspicuous argumentation is a virtue and not a vice.

Michael Schirmer
01-18-2010, 03:10 PM
Over the last 15 years I've gone both ways (not in the prostitute scenario).
I don't think it's made a big difference business-wise either way as far as getting work. I go without now because of liability issues - I do dart in and out of traffic and speed when late for an inspection - and prefer to be just another anonymous A-hole driver not being associated with a business name.

I've had good luck with a pidplate of just my website. Looks classy on the back of my truck and is only really noticeable when I'm parked or someone is following me. People love to check out websites.
https://www.pidplates.us/html/main.en.html

JB Thompson
01-18-2010, 03:15 PM
Rick,

...I have slowed down, rarely go over 10 over the limit now, usually much closer to the limit, and in residential areas I keep it under 5 over and usually right near the speed limit.

...Being as I do not have any intention of driving with my front wheels off the ground or driving 50 over any more (yeah, I used to years ago, actually have driven 85 over on the interstates in years past) ... but there was no need for me to track those laws and see if they passed as I have no need or intention of driving that fast now.

Wow, I gotta say for someone who really knows the code and presumably follows it, the law used to just get in your way, huh?

OK, you can slam me now, but I couldn't resist.:D

For me personally, I have 2 magnetic signs and I would take them off in the evenings (when I remembered). After about 3 years, I realized that I had only 4 calls because of the signs and only one of the people booked an inspection (paid for the signs). So, for now, the signs are on the freezer in the garage b/c I'm tired of taking them off

I REALLY like the vehicle wraps or partial wraps, but I probably won't get one.

Regarding the commercial insurance mini-thread: I have my truck listed on my personal policy; however, it is listed as a business vehicle and I pay a business premium.

Bruce

JB Thompson
01-18-2010, 03:33 PM
Eric,

You make a good point. If your conducting business out of a vehicle and you don't have commercial coverage on it, your sitting yourself up for a nice lawsuit if your ever in a accident.

As far as the signage lets see. I booked my third inspection for a client who contacted me from the signage on my truck. (2) of the inspections have not worked out for her best interest so now she's booked a third.

1K+ $$$ all from a client who saw my signage. Yeah, I can say signage has paid for itself.

As far as the nosey neighbor, they still come over and ask if know anything about the buyers. I like to tell them that I heard its going to be a "halfway" home for drug addicts or abused women. The look on their face is priceless.

rick

Rick,

All I can say is: "you're awesome"! I wish my signs had been that productive.

Nick Ostrowski
01-18-2010, 05:49 PM
Maybe somebody has had better luck with them but I had the magnetic signs when I first started. The only calls I got were from guys who saw the signs on my car and called asking about how nthey could become a home inspector. BUT..........one guy who saw the signs when I was in a convenience store parking lot asked for my card. A year or more later, I got a call from his daughter who said "My Dad said he met you on an inspection and that I had to get you to inspect our house". ????????????? OK.

The house ended up being 7,000+ sq ft and I did both a predrywall and full inspection before settlement. I think I got $1,000 for those two jobs which were cake because the builder was meticulous. However, I never replaced the signs after they got faded and crappy looking because I didn't want to mess the paint up on my new car and I didn't want to letter my personal vehicle up.

Jerry Peck
01-18-2010, 06:04 PM
(bold and underlining are mine)

Wow, I gotta say for someone who really knows the code and presumably follows it, the law used to just get in your way, huh?

Speed limit wise ... yeah, it sure USED TO ... :D

(note the "past tense" there :cool: )

Nothing like driving almost triple the speed limit ... :eek:

Erby Crofutt
01-19-2010, 04:42 AM
When you don't do much realtor soliciting, you use what you can. For me the signs pay off. Just make sure you get one on the back of your vehicle. That's when most people read it. Stopped behind you, readily visible in a parking lot, etc.

To each their own. Mine works for me.


To old to be a gigolo anymore!


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Dan Kuznitsky
09-16-2010, 09:21 AM
I'm thinking about having the whole vehicle signage installed on my inspection vehicle. Anyone got any pictures or comments on if it has helped you. How much did it cost?

I actually have a similar question even though this is an old post, I figured why start a whole new post.
Does anyone in Vegas know the laws regarding vehicle signage? Can I put vinyl lettering on the rear window of my personal vehicle to advertise my business and not catch any flak from LVMPD?

Rick Hurst
09-16-2010, 09:42 AM
Don't know the laws at your location but here in Dallas area you can put the vinyl over the rear windows if the vinyl has the small perforated holes in it.

I had it for awhile on my rear window and actually removed it as I thought it was too hazardous.

rick

Dan Kuznitsky
09-16-2010, 10:28 AM
Don't know the laws at your location but here in Dallas area you can put the vinyl over the rear windows if the vinyl has the small perforated holes in it.

I had it for awhile on my rear window and actually removed it as I thought it was too hazardous.

rick

Thanks Rick. I'm thinking that I'd like to use lettering instead of a full window screen, and I've seen cars on the road with business adverts but never thought to see if the plates were commercial.

Tim Spargo
09-16-2010, 11:32 AM
I'm sure this will offend some... oh well. :p

I get a kick out of the vehicles I see *inspectors* drive. Recently (to my dismay of course) the house next door to me :eek: was being inspected by someone else. They pull up in a *non-work* looking vehicle... and away they went!!

A fold up ladder (I'm scared of them...) a *small* bag of tools and that's it!!

Or..

I'll see someone with a 4 door car and a ladder strapped on top of it.. those are the best for me, I look at that and think

"Last month you were a Retail Clerk, this month a Home Inspector... yeah!!!"

I'm old fashioned, but -


I drive a *truck*
I have *several ladders*
I have a *tool box with stuff*
I'm equipped!

I was gonna change to some degree, but my son showed me a video of someone using a "compacting" type ladder (you know the type), it was a *Sales Pitch* / infomercial and the thing collapsed right on TV... YUCK! I'll pass!

I just wonder what home inspectors and the public think of someone who pulls up in the family cruiser. Does that portray someone committed to their trade?

Someone was looking thru photos on my camera and snapped a pic

JB Thompson
09-16-2010, 11:53 AM
I'm sure this will offend some... oh well. :p

I get a kick out of the vehicles I see *inspectors* drive. Recently (to my dismay of course) the house next door to me :eek: was being inspected by someone else. They pull up in a *non-work* looking vehicle... and away they went!!

A fold up ladder (I'm scared of them...) a *small* bag of tools and that's it!!

Or..

I'll see someone with a 4 door car and a ladder strapped on top of it.. those are the best for me, I look at that and think

"Last month you were a Retail Clerk, this month a Home Inspector... yeah!!!"

I'm old fashioned, but -


I drive a *truck*
I have *several ladders*
I have a *tool box with stuff*
I'm equipped!
I was gonna change to some degree, but my son showed me a video of someone using a "compacting" type ladder (you know the type), it was a *Sales Pitch* / infomercial and the thing collapsed right on TV... YUCK! I'll pass!

I just wonder what home inspectors and the public think of someone who pulls up in the family cruiser. Does that portray someone committed to their trade?

Someone was looking thru photos on my camera and snapped a pic

I agree. I know everyone's different and has their own preferences, wants and needs. IMHO, a truck or work van appears more professional than a Scion XB.

I also carry multiple ladders with one of them being a telescoping ladder (Xtend and Climb). It comes handy in tight closets. Now I do have a healthy fear of it and because of that video and other forums, I check each locking device and climb slowly checking each rung.

Jack Feldmann
09-16-2010, 03:06 PM
I drive a 97 Toyota T100 truck with a shell. No signs.
I do have to take exception to the "have to have a truck with big ass ladders" to prove I'm serious.
While I do have a lot of crap in the back of my truck, I don't need a lot of it to do a great inspection. My 17' Little Giant is fine for just about every building I inspect. The tools I need to do my work would fit in a medium size tool bag.
I once had to use my daughters Lexus for a day. The ladder fit in the back seat and all my gear fit in the trunk just fine.

As far as image goes, I think showing up in a Lexus took me up a notch from my 13 year old truck.

Since I wasn't hired to WORK on the house, I don't see the need to show up with a F350 with a slew of ladders and a bunch of tool boxes attached. I'm a professional home inspector, NOT a Tradesman, and I charge fees appropriate for a Professional. I don't want to portray myself as a Tradesman that is taking off early from a construction job to do the inspection.

But that's just my opinion.

Jim Luttrall
09-16-2010, 03:25 PM
To each his own. I have had signs and no signs. I've had full size trucks with long friggin extension ladders, a van, a couple of small trucks with and without a shell and now drive a Scion xb with signs all over it. The Scion holds more tools and all the ladders I need. The Scion is the easiest vehicle I have ever worked out of and gets the best mileage but the reason I got it was to get folks to remember me, just a hook to hang a memory on.

One of these days I'll likely go back to a full size truck just because I like to drive a truck but I don't NEED one to inspect out of nor to prove anything. If you need a truck to bolster your rep, go for it.

Dan Kuznitsky
09-16-2010, 04:30 PM
I'm sure this will offend some... oh well. :p

I get a kick out of the vehicles I see *inspectors* drive. Recently (to my dismay of course) the house next door to me :eek: was being inspected by someone else. They pull up in a *non-work* looking vehicle... and away they went!!

A fold up ladder (I'm scared of them...) a *small* bag of tools and that's it!!

Or..

I'll see someone with a 4 door car and a ladder strapped on top of it.. those are the best for me, I look at that and think

"Last month you were a Retail Clerk, this month a Home Inspector... yeah!!!"

I'm old fashioned, but -


I drive a *truck*
I have *several ladders*
I have a *tool box with stuff*
I'm equipped!
I was gonna change to some degree, but my son showed me a video of someone using a "compacting" type ladder (you know the type), it was a *Sales Pitch* / infomercial and the thing collapsed right on TV... YUCK! I'll pass!

I just wonder what home inspectors and the public think of someone who pulls up in the family cruiser. Does that portray someone committed to their trade?

Someone was looking thru photos on my camera and snapped a pic


If it was me, I'd say someone that used the family car to drive to a scheduled inspection and made it on time, wrote my report, and made time to explain it to me was the guy that I hired to do the next inspection I needed.
Personally I don't care if somebody showed up on a bicycle with a rope ladder tied around his/her waist, with tools in a zip lock baggie as long as the work was correct when he/she left.

Steven Turetsky
09-16-2010, 05:41 PM
Here's one of my favorites.

JB Thompson
09-16-2010, 05:52 PM
...and now drive a Scion xb with signs all over....


oops! :D

Tim Spargo
09-16-2010, 07:30 PM
oops! :D

LOL.

For what it's worth..nothing to prove for me, I just like a *real* ladder under my feet. I've tried the folding/extending DIY type :D .... they scare me.

It's a hard argument to win, if it's one that you claim it makes no difference in impression as to what we show up in. I would beg to differ.

JB Thompson
09-16-2010, 07:36 PM
Regarding my telescoping ladder...I only use it when my other ladder will be too cumbersome or do damage to the interior. I do have a healthy fear of it.

My other ladder is a Werner articulating ladder. It too has my attention, but it is my main ladder. I've got a truck with a shell on it (I have a love/hate relationship with that shell). The only way I can use my extension ladder is to have the shell's door open and strapped down. With the Werner, I can at least lock up the back.

Jim Luttrall
09-16-2010, 08:13 PM
I carry a Werner multi-purpose inside the vehicle (clean and secure) all the time which gets me on most 2-story houses around here and sets up as a 7' A-frame to a 15' extension.
If I see I will need it, I throw the Little Giant on the top rack which goes to a 13' A-frame or extends to 23' and rated for 300lbs.
I don't know of a sturdier ladder on the market.
I don't use the Extend-n-Climb type ladders.
I had an articulating ladder years ago but found it was just a pain to use.
I ditched it after I got the Werner which was much more versatile.

I have found with these two ladders I can get to any roof easier and safer than a half dozen conventional ladders.
My only complaint is the weight of the M-26 which weighs in at 54 lbs and can be a handful in confined spaces.
But it would take a 28' standard extension ladder to reach the same height which would weigh 56lbs for one rated for 300lbs.

95% of my jobs are done easily and safely with one light weight ladder.
I have had only one job on a 3-story condo with straight sides that I could not reach with my ladders.
Why would I or anyone need a truck full of ladders to do inspections?

Painter or roofer, maybe you need half a dozen ladders or maybe they just need one or two good ones.;)

Jim Luttrall
09-16-2010, 08:19 PM
LOL.

For what it's worth..nothing to prove for me, I just like a *real* ladder under my feet. I've tried the folding/extending DIY type :D .... they scare me.

It's a hard argument to win, if it's one that you claim it makes no difference in impression as to what we show up in. I would beg to differ.

I think the difference is looking professional or looking macho. Macho does not pay the bills, professional does.

Tim Spargo
09-16-2010, 09:53 PM
I think the difference is looking professional or looking macho. Macho does not pay the bills, professional does.

Jim. Nice looking ride! Your vehicle *is* a far cry from the *example* of the family-vehicle-convert that I was referring to! I'm sure you knew that, you just wanted to show off! ;) That vehicle indicates that your professionalism, for sure!

I'll disagree on the ladders, as I said, it's a preference!

Rick Hurst
09-16-2010, 10:57 PM
I see Jim's truck all over the place. It is eye catching and always in a clean condition. His company name pops out at you and thats whats drives the business toward one.

I actually driven by it while he's on an inspection and thought about picking up and turning it sideways upon the sidewalk for laughs but Jim is a good ole boy so I leave him be.

rick

David Edenburn
09-17-2010, 12:30 AM
In the 5 years I drove around with signs on my truck I got one (1) customer from it. Of course in my case the signs were free (my sister has a graphics arts company). If I had to pay for the signs I would say that they weren't worth it.

John Arnold
09-17-2010, 04:55 AM
JR: Change your mind. Even prostitutes do not use signage.

A.D., I mean, Elliot, must be on vacation.

Nick Ostrowski
09-17-2010, 07:18 AM
John, he's taking a break from all the commercial feces.

stanley labinsky
09-17-2010, 07:48 AM
Here in New York state, a couple of mag signs will allow you to retain a non-commercial plate, used of fixed lettering is on the ragged edge although I see it done all the time.
Oddly, for a small pick-up, the cost of the commercial plate was slightly less.

Also, my auto insurance co. has a 'business use' notation on the policy.

In Downstate N.Y., just north of "The City", there are many 'parkways' - limited access roads that were built during the depression days. Commercially tagged vehicles are excluded from most which can severely limit your getting to a customer conveniently.

And Jim's XB... PERFECT, nice job on it! Now all that's needed is some airbrushing of thin black lines to make it look like it's built from LEGOs.
I've always thought that to be the case and have wanted to see one done up that way ever since they came out. ;-)

Stan

Jim Luttrall
09-17-2010, 09:09 AM
And Jim's XB... PERFECT, nice job on it! Now all that's needed is some airbrushing of thin black lines to make it look like it's built from LEGOs.
I've always thought that to be the case and have wanted to see one done up that way ever since they came out. ;-)

Stan
I call it the X-Box or just my little rolling bill board.:D

JB Thompson
09-17-2010, 06:11 PM
In the 5 years I drove around with signs on my truck I got one (1) customer from it. ... If I had to pay for the signs I would say that they weren't worth it.

Same thing happened to me. One call in 4 yrs, but I paid for my signs.

Jim's car is definitely eye-catching; looks good. Do you ask everyone who calls how they found you and if it was because of the car? Just curious.

Jim Luttrall
09-17-2010, 07:34 PM
Same thing happened to me. One call in 4 yrs, but I paid for my signs.

Jim's car is definitely eye-catching; looks good. Do you ask everyone who calls how they found you and if it was because of the car? Just curious.
Yes, I try to find out how they found me. I know of at least one that got me strictly off of the car signage, that paid for the lettering. But I can't count the number of folks that have recognized me as a familiar inspector when I hand them my card with a picture of the Scion on front and the little light comes on and they say "oh, your the guy that drives that little box/car/truck".
In my view it is all a part of an overall marketing package. I have the car, cards, and website all tied together with the same theme. When I started over after moving to the city, I needed a hook to get people attention and in 2005 when gas was $4 a gallon, that was the hook. Plus, I get good mpg.
I figure I can make a case for 100% of my mileage as deductible since I am advertising everywhere I go.
Down side is you have got to drive civilly.

Todd Belverstone
09-17-2010, 08:05 PM
You can't only go by the calls that are generated directly from your window decal, but think of it as advertising. If you are covering the same general area, as I do, then you are getting your name out there. If People are seeing your name and logo here and there for a couple years it can help you when they buy a home and go to talk to their realtor. When they are handed a list of names or are surfing the net to find an inspector in the area, your name comes up and they recognize your name. It may not go down as a direct link, but it is Marketing 101.

Stuart Brooks
09-18-2010, 02:13 PM
You can't only go by the calls that are generated directly from your window decal, but think of it as advertising. If you are covering the same general area, as I do, then you are getting your name out there. If People are seeing your name and logo here and there for a couple years it can help you when they buy a home and go to talk to their realtor. When they are handed a list of names or are surfing the net to find an inspector in the area, your name comes up and they recognize your name. It may not go down as a direct link, but it is Marketing 101.

Yep. I agree. A good reason to drive politely also

JB Thompson
09-18-2010, 03:13 PM
I know there are multiple thoughts on this; however, my insurance guy told me that certain people believe businesses can afford to be in a wreck. He said he's had several businessmen clients who were involved in a wreck and that the advertising basically says "Hit this truck and you can win the lottery". Obviously this isn't true for most of our citizenry, but food for thought.

I chose to keep my mag signs against his advice, then ultimately took them off b/c I had had only one call in 4 yrs or so.

I do have a thing for these car wraps and have thought about doing some print that would be easily recognizable, much like Jim's (actually I was think zebra stripes):D

Glenn Duxbury
09-19-2010, 10:33 AM
Hi, ALL &

Don B.'s story (& others') reminds me of a recent situation - an actual 'Black Escalade' trying to speed-past a long line of traffic in the slow lane & I'm right ahead, gradually moving past 'em but being reasonable with my speed.

I could just imagine that driver's emotional state, as he couldn't do his thing...

I also have the displayed (rear window signage) biz number calling-forward to my cell & it eventually rang & I answered as if sitting in my office. He said nothing, just stayed on my tail, getting more frustrated. His cell number was visible with call-display & I acted as if I was in an office setting, calling-out "...does anyone know this number...?" & saying "I KNOW you can hear me, but I just cannot hear you /help you if you won't speak..." Also added-in a comment ("...anyone happen to know when 'vehicle #1' is due back [the one I'm driving]..." Then decided to state "...well, I guess we'll just try calling this number back early tomorrow morning - say 0700 or so, when we re-open !"

Just 'stood my ground' & maintained "course and speed", so to speak; after a good while (while enjoying the thought of this character being JOLTED awake pre-dawn) I was far enough ahead of the long line of traffic in the adjacent lane & could VERY gradually change lanes & blew by me doing at least 150 & was "gone' in a few seconds !!!

Another 'cop' situation (reminded by a post way-back), I found myself stopped at a light, turning left at a major highway intersection in late-afternoon Rush-Hour traffic, which I'm not used to & got 'squeezed' out into the centre, but there was no room to proceed & I was blocked from any attempt to back up, also. The light then turns RED & those ahead S-L-O-W-L-Y move through; I can only follow them, but very late & I must say those coming through the other way were very understanding...

Shortly, my phone rings & 'caller' asks if this was 'Glenn' (again -from my vehicle signage) ? "Yes..." "I'm a police officer and you 'ran' a red light back @ that intersection, correct...?"

I 'plead guilty', but did explain my very awkward situation & my attempt to play it as safe as I could, but then stated "...if you HAVE to pull me over & Ticket me, as I realize I did what you've described, please just let me know & I'll do so right now..."

He replied "Hmmm - can see your side of things now; just be more careful..."

Makes one wonder what makes some folks 'tick' !


CHEERS !

Bob Elliott
09-19-2010, 10:56 AM
Hi Markus, actually it's rear-window only. I get 2-3 jobs a year from it, and it's garaged except when I'm on the road. First one paid for the signage, and in this economy, every little bit helps.

Are you counting payment for Plates and parking tickets for having B Plates on residential streets or loss of time not using Blvds and LSD as mentioned above?.:)

Rick Hurst
09-19-2010, 12:59 PM
I've booked 2 calls for this next week from signage on my truck. One came from someone sitting behind me in the bank drive-thru.

The other one was from a realtor that flagged me down at a traffic light.

Thats (2) I wouldn't have if not for the signs. You do the math.

rick

Dan Kuznitsky
09-19-2010, 03:54 PM
I've booked 2 calls for this next week from signage on my truck. One came from someone sitting behind me in the bank drive-thru.

The other one was from a realtor that flagged me down at a traffic light.

Thats (2) I wouldn't have if not for the signs. You do the math.

rick
Found the answers I was looking for....... Ironically from an inspector who was on his way to a job(pulled his number from the vinyl lettering on his truck while on the road) who pretty much stated that since his business is based out of his house, he did NOT need commercial plates on his truck to have the "signage".

All I know is that if doing that gets ME even one call that turns into an appointment, it's worth it.

Bob Elliott
09-19-2010, 04:54 PM
I've booked 2 calls for this next week from signage on my truck. One came from someone sitting behind me in the bank drive-thru.

The other one was from a realtor that flagged me down at a traffic light.

Thats (2) I wouldn't have if not for the signs. You do the math.

rick
May depend on your locale.
In Chicago I have never once seen a "Plumber truck" and thought I should write down the number in traffic:)
In Chicago most do not even use a Inspector.
Many use Agent or friend referral and the rest have good internet access.
They normally get 5 days to have an inspection done so what are the odds someone just signed a purchase agreement as your vehicle rolls by.

My thinking is this type branding works best in small town america.
Still if you get a good deal and use more than a cheap magnetic sign screaming P/T "what the heck" give it a shot.

Mitchell Toelle
09-20-2010, 11:22 AM
Regarding post #38...Tim S., alott of testosterone floating around here. I guess with only an InterNa designation you need some more hormones to bolster yourself. Let me be civil and invite you to the CREIA Antelope Valley chapter meetings. They meet on the 3rd Wed. of each month at Greenhouse Cafe in Lancaster. You are very welcome to attend your first meeting free of charge, which includes a free meal. Join a reputable Association, and Inspectors who are truely dedicated to continueing education. I will admit that InterNa has some good info. on their site but their reputation preceeds them. We would love to have you as a member of a Calif. only Association.

Bob Elliott
09-20-2010, 11:43 AM
Regarding post #38...Tim S., alott of testosterone floating around here. I guess with only an InterNa designation you need some more hormones to bolster yourself. Let me be civil and invite you to the CREIA Antelope Valley chapter meetings. They meet on the 3rd Wed. of each month at Greenhouse Cafe in Lancaster. You are very welcome to attend your first meeting free of charge, which includes a free meal. Join a reputable Association, and Inspectors who are truely dedicated to continueing education. I will admit that InterNa has some good info. on their site but their reputation preceeds them. We would love to have you as a member of a Calif. only Association.

How does signage relate to minor associations in this thread.?
You feeling insecure in your manhood. ? :rolleyes:

Ted Menelly
09-20-2010, 11:46 AM
May depend on your locale.
In Chicago I have never once seen a "Plumber truck" and thought I should write down the number in traffic:)
In Chicago most do not even use a Inspector.
Many use Agent or friend referral and the rest have good internet access.
They normally get 5 days to have an inspection done so what are the odds someone just signed a purchase agreement as your vehicle rolls by.

My thinking is this type branding works best in small town america.
Still if you get a good deal and use more than a cheap magnetic sign screaming P/T "what the heck" give it a shot.


Uhm


DFW..................................... I don't think small town America fits here.

That being said. I never really got calls to speak of. I had signage on my vehicles off and on over the years and I had received several calls *over the years* Yeah, not to many.

Does it pay. Sure it pays off. I just felt it was a place that marketing money never paid off enough to drive around with signage 24/7

I have seen Jim vehicle. It is quite a billboard. I would venture to say that that type of signage must pay off.

Dan Kuznitsky
09-20-2010, 12:53 PM
Uhm


DFW..................................... I don't think small town America fits here.

That being said. I never really got calls to speak of. I had signage on my vehicles off and on over the years and I had received several calls *over the years* Yeah, not to many.

Does it pay. Sure it pays off. I just felt it was a place that marketing money never paid off enough to drive around with signage 24/7

I have seen Jim vehicle. It is quite a billboard. I would venture to say that that type of signage must pay off.

I'm also taking into consideration neighbors that might show up wondering who the guy is poking around the house next door.... signage=less "wtf are you doing here?" when I park and start an inspection, and ANY calls stemming from the signage that end up leading to appointments make it worth it.

Bob Elliott
09-20-2010, 01:21 PM
I'm also taking into consideration neighbors that might show up wondering who the guy is poking around the house next door.... signage=less "wtf are you doing here?" when I park and start an inspection, and ANY calls stemming from the signage that end up leading to appointments make it worth it.

Just ask them for their name and address as you give them an ominous look.;)

Bob Elliott
09-20-2010, 01:28 PM
Uhm


DFW..................................... I don't think small town America fits here.

That being said. I never really got calls to speak of. I had signage on my vehicles off and on over the years and I had received several calls *over the years* Yeah, not to many.

Does it pay. Sure it pays off. I just felt it was a place that marketing money never paid off enough to drive around with signage 24/7

I have seen Jim vehicle. It is quite a billboard. I would venture to say that that type of signage must pay off.
My thinking is that in a smaller area the potential clients are more likely to see you around and the signage will make more of a difference.

Dan Kuznitsky
09-20-2010, 02:06 PM
Just ask them for their name and address as you give them an ominous look.;)

Hehe. According to people that know me, it's the only look I've got anyway.:D

Dan Kuznitsky
09-20-2010, 02:13 PM
My thinking is that in a smaller area the potential clients are more likely to see you around and the signage will make more of a difference.

Mine is, whether it's a big OR small town vehicle signage coupled with other methods help to get your name Remembered.... If a potential client see's you in your vehicle, then see's your name among a few other names, yours is the one most familiar and most likely to get a call. Even if they decide to go with another inspector, you still have potential to get that inquiry.

Tim Spargo
09-23-2010, 02:26 PM
Agree with ya Dan.

We may not call the # at the time we see it.. but when we need a service that's unfamiliar to us, we may think "I'll go with XXXX I've *heard of them before*"

I think they call it........ Branding?

Tim Spargo
09-23-2010, 02:35 PM
Regarding post #38...Tim S., alott of testosterone floating around here. I guess with only an InterNa designation you need some more hormones to bolster yourself. Let me be civil and invite you to the CREIA Antelope Valley chapter meetings. They meet on the 3rd Wed. of each month at Greenhouse Cafe in Lancaster. You are very welcome to attend your first meeting free of charge, which includes a free meal. Join a reputable Association, and Inspectors who are truely dedicated to continueing education. I will admit that InterNa has some good info. on their site but their reputation preceeds them. We would love to have you as a member of a Calif. only Association.

Wow!

What a crappy thing to say! I was just there a couple weeks ago and several of the meetings before that.

Never seen ya! Maybe I'll catch ya next time.

*IF* you were being civil... you certainly wouldn't have been insulting in your statements. By the way.. it's *a lot* and *Internachi*.

Most people I meet (including CREIA members) find me knowledgeable and friendly.

Also, over the years, one thing I've found to be true is this...

No matter the inspector's association or designation... when/if I go behind an inspector (I'm a building contractor too) with a punchlist from their report... they all miss things. A ten year XXX guy or another. No one's perfect.

Instead of slinging mud, we, as inspector's should better ourselves, thereby improving OUR reputation as a whole.

The thing that is BAD for our industry is a BAD inspector... they come in all shapes and sizes AND association.

BTW..

Tony Escamilla
09-24-2010, 11:12 AM
You can NEVER have your name in too many places. I've gotten plenty or work from vehichle signs when I was using them. I got one a year later after I met a lady at a supermarket because she saw my signs.

Which reminds me, it's time to order a new pair since the last ones got beaten up and I removed them. If you're going to use them, be sure they are legible from a distance and CLEAN!

Tony Escamilla
Villa Home Inspections (http://www.inspectaproperty.com)

Dub Smith
09-24-2010, 07:57 PM
I have read alot (excuse me...I mean a lot) of posts here, some good, some bad, some vicious, some down right scary...but I agree with Tony, you can never have too much exposure if you are trying to capture as many leads as you can. Get your name out there any way you can, then back your name up with integrity and professionalism. That will be your ultimate stamp on your work...and repeat business.:D

Bob Knauff
09-25-2010, 12:06 PM
I must say that over the years I haven't had many calls off the truck signage (that I know of anyway) however, it HAS kept me from being viewed as "suspicious" is some neighborhoods or at some vacant houses by neighbors or the cops. They may watch me a bit but are satisfied when I break out the tool belt. Also, many times neighbors come over to see about the house being sold and who the new neighbors will be and so on. That offers the opportunity to quiz them about the house and the neighborhood and the area for possible problems like drainage and so forth or previous owners problems with the house.

Ted Menelly
09-25-2010, 04:55 PM
I must say that over the years I haven't had many calls off the truck signage (that I know of anyway) however, it HAS kept me from being viewed as "suspicious" is some neighborhoods or at some vacant houses by neighbors or the cops. They may watch me a bit but are satisfied when I break out the tool belt. Also, many times neighbors come over to see about the house being sold and who the new neighbors will be and so on. That offers the opportunity to quiz them about the house and the neighborhood and the area for possible problems like drainage and so forth or previous owners problems with the house.

I was curious about the identification thing when you come to a home to inspect it. I am not talking of the owner of the home but neighbors. It has been mentioned here several times and on other threads.

Once in the thousands of inspections has anyone every specifically come over where I was inspecting to inquire who I may be as in a suspicious nature. Maybe it was in a suspicious nature but never felt like it.

After I had been there a while some neighbor might call out and say hello and ask if the home finally sold but that is about it. I have even gotten a few inspections from neighbors or friends of neighbors but only that one time was there ever a "and who are you" thing.

All this talk of signage and I think I may be getting some lettering or at the least three nice magnetic signs, one for the tail gate and one for each door. I keep seeing some very nice wraps but they are pretty serious on the cost side. Besides I like the idea of removing any lettering when I feel like it.

Jim Luttrall
09-25-2010, 05:01 PM
I was curious about the identification thing when you come to a home to inspect it. I am not talking of the owner of the home but neighbors. It has been mentioned here several times and on other threads.

Once in the thousands of inspections has anyone every specifically come over where I was inspecting to inquire who I may be as in a suspicious nature. Maybe it was in a suspicious nature but never felt like it.

After I had been there a while some neighbor might call out and say hello and ask if the home finally sold but that is about it. I have even gotten a few inspections from neighbors or friends of neighbors but only that one time was there ever a "and who are you" thing.

All this talk of signage and I think I may be getting some lettering or at the least three nice magnetic signs, one for the tail gate and one for each door. I keep seeing some very nice wraps but they are pretty serious on the cost side. Besides I like the idea of removing any lettering when I feel like it.
Ted, try pricing vinyl lettering. It is permanent enough but peels right off, not nearly as expensive as a wrap.

Ted Menelly
09-25-2010, 05:08 PM
Ted, try pricing vinyl lettering. It is permanent enough but peels right off, not nearly as expensive as a wrap.

I have done the vinyl lettering on all my other vehicles. Once on there for a while it is hair drier time and a lot of patience. Unless you mean vinyl lettering in a sheet form like a clear plastic that all pulls off at once and can be reused.

Bruce Ramsey
09-26-2010, 08:17 AM
Don't have any lettering or wrap on the vehicle. Had some magnets for a while but stopped.

Now I have a sign I post in the yard during the inspection. Serves the same purpose as alerting the neighborhood that I am not just a suspicious person but also a home inspector :D

Mike Schulz
09-27-2010, 02:45 PM
I put the wrap just on my windows in 07 they are now starting to peel at the edges. They said it will last 3-5 so keep that in mind when doing it.

Down side is I get road rage and can't flip azz #oles off.