thermostat wiring splice

[cory wright]

Is it OK to have AC condenser control wiring and thermostat wiring splices exposed without a juction box. If so, would you at least recommend securing them better with electrical tape?

[Jim Luttrall]

It is ugly but I know of no requirement for low voltage splices t be in a box.
Tape it if you want but that does not "secure" it. Electrical tape is meant to insulate, it has no "structural" value.

[John Dirks Jr]

Nothing can stop you from reporting it and suggesting an improvement. Just make sure when you do it that you don't use the same emphasis you would on normal house current wiring.

For instance, bad or exposed splices in 120v wiring can be a hazard for fire and electrical shock. The low voltage control wiring will not present those kind of hazards, usually.

Of coarse, if the splices fail the HVAC system wont work. So, there is certainly nothing wrong with suggesting an improvement. You just want to keep the alarmist level down on it.

[Rick Cantrell]

There is nothing to report.

[David Bell]

As long as the doorbell doesn't ring when the A/C starts you are OK

[brianmiller]

I'll write them up as a defect if I see them laying inside of the auxiliary catch pan, or if they are laying across the walkpath.

[Markus Keller]

Low voltage, no big deal on that end. I would write up securing the wiring. Explain to the client if those wires come apart the AC won't work. Also tell them if they aren't handy, the AC tech will come out and charge a few hundred to fix it. They'll think you are a genius and love you for it.

[Darrell Udelhoven]

First, make sure the splice is made properly for good solid conduction.

Even 24-Volt circuits should be well insulated.

After a heavy rain if you grabbed that live open circuit you could possibly receive a shock sufficient to cause a heart rhythm problem.

Standing in water barefooted or with soaked shoes, 24-voltage could potentially kill some people.

I would think an inspector should carry electrical code-tape & fix the possible hazard.

If I were already on an A/C call I wouldn't charge for fixing that problem. - Darrell

[Rod Butler]

As long as the doorbell doesn't ring when the A/C starts you are OK


:D

On the other hand that might be an energy saving idea. If the furnace kick on and off too often you would know about it.

Then again your neighbor bringing cookies over may be left standing at the door.

[matt berman]

Recommend taping the splices tightly and secure to tubing with zip ties

[bob smit]

This installation pictured is regulated by code for protection and integrity of the cable itself along with proper separation from conductors that are not class 1,2, and 3.

Relating to the open splice, I would write under 110.3(A)(8) which is subject to obvious damage of the cable's integrity.
Normally, the splice would be made in a protected area between the roof rafters or on a rafter/truss tie with a wood block for protection.
Of course there is 110.12 mechanical execution as already stated and 300.4(d) also applies.
Bob Smit, County EI

[Jerry Peck]

I would think an inspector should carry electrical code-tape & fix the possible hazard.

The inspector should NEVER FIX ANYTHING.

[Darrell Udelhoven]

The inspector should NEVER FIX ANYTHING.
I stand corrected Jerry; I'm an HVAC/R man without knowledge of what an inspector is allowed do.

Only write it up, right... I guess I intuitively knew that.