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Tim Moreira
04-01-2007, 11:57 PM
The area in the red triangle has a name and I don't think it is saddle or cricket.
What is this area called?
I'll have the plumbing leak answer once I get done with this report.
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Gunnar Alquist
04-02-2007, 09:51 AM
Tim,

I always called in a cricket.

Richard Rushing
04-02-2007, 11:08 AM
The section highlighted is a cricket that turns into the cricket valley...
RR

Brendan Ryan
04-04-2007, 05:27 AM
According to the glossary feature found in the Hot Links drop down menu on the Inspection Radio tool bar (I just had to use it, this site is great), it is neither a saddle or a cricket. We refer to it as a restricted valley, or more aptly a leak waiting to happen caused by poor design. Although there should be a membrane such as Ice & Water Sheild beneath it we all know what normally is not present or done improperly in areas we cannot see. Problems here include water damming and deterioration of siding and trim caused by build up of debris, ice & snow. Low slope shingles allow water to back up under them. Commonly there is an open end gutter discharging the rain water from this half of the roof field above compounding the problem. Add all that water to this roofs run off all being fed to a funneled discharge point and it will over shoot or over flow the small section of gutter found below it resulting in a wet basement. If you cannot tell, I do not think much of these features.

Mike Schulz
04-04-2007, 03:19 PM
We would install a 6' metal pan that would turn up 8" at the bottom a 5" at the top on the wall. We would tell the siding installers to keep there stuff 4" up at the bottom and taper to 3" at the top then to 2 after that point. We would also extend the pan past the corner and make a ear so the water doesn't run down the face of the front wall. It would typically extend out 3" or more.

It's amazing that they design this crap and we have to figure out how to make it leak proof. 60% of the time leakage occurs from siding installers nailing close to the bottom on the walls and not leaving there proper height on the siding. 25% of the time the brick masons would drive a nail in the pan to hold there string line. Siding installers would also do this on occasion to hold there materials so it won't slide down the roof. 15% would be roofer error because there stupid! (I know I was one) :D

Jim Holl
04-05-2007, 05:45 PM
I call those areas a SWALE.

A broad and low slope area which leads water from drained surfaces to a storage or discharge system.

Always double check the flashing around them!

Jerry McCarthy
04-30-2007, 05:04 PM
I'd call it a change in roof pitch. What catches my eye is the lack of clearance that wood siding (appears to be wood siding) has from the roof covering. Wodd wicks water almost as fast as stucco.

wayne soper
04-30-2007, 05:46 PM
If thge upper section would be considered a valley, which it is, why would this not be a valley? Different pitch, same valley.

Jerry Peck
04-30-2007, 05:48 PM
If thge upper section would be considered a valley, which it is, why would this not be a valley? Different pitch, same valley.

A valley is where two roofs meet.

That 'has' a valley, but 'is not' a valley.

Bob Mulloy
07-09-2007, 12:09 PM
Hello,

Here in New England, we call that a "choke point" that restricts roof drainage.