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Brandon Whitmore
07-15-2010, 11:22 AM
I need a picture of a cripple wall bolted to a foundation-- if any of you have a higher resolution photo available, I'll owe you one. I'll be going through my archived photos, but finding a pic may take hours.

Scott Patterson
07-15-2010, 01:37 PM
I need a picture of a cripple wall bolted to a foundation-- if any of you have a higher resolution photo available, I'll owe you one. I'll be going through my archived photos, but finding a pic may take hours.

If this works let me know and I will email it to you.

Brandon Whitmore
07-15-2010, 02:07 PM
Scott,

Pic #2 would be great.

Thanks a bunch.

Scott Patterson
07-15-2010, 02:11 PM
Scott,

Pic #2 would be great.

Thanks a bunch.

What is your email? You have it blocked on your profile...... :)

Jerry Peck
07-15-2010, 07:31 PM
Scott,

Pic #2 would be great.

Thanks a bunch.


Those photos show you how NOT to leave the insulation, make sure you note that when you use that photo.

Gabe S
07-15-2010, 08:33 PM
They are also unbraced. Very weak.

Gabe S
07-15-2010, 08:34 PM
Also, where the bolts?

Brandon Whitmore
07-15-2010, 11:28 PM
What is your email? You have it blocked on your profile...... :)

Hi Scott,

Strange, I didn't know I could block my e - mail. I'll PM you.

Brandon Whitmore
07-15-2010, 11:30 PM
Never mind on the PM-- you don't seem to want to accept those.:)

Scott Patterson
07-16-2010, 09:20 AM
Never mind on the PM-- you don't seem to want to accept those.:)

You can PM me, I get them all the time... I had the email turned off, but I turned it back on.

Scott Patterson
07-16-2010, 09:21 AM
Those photos show you how NOT to leave the insulation, make sure you note that when you use that photo.

Yep, that is why I took the picture..... :)

Scott Patterson
07-16-2010, 09:23 AM
They are also unbraced. Very weak.

How would you like to see a 3' and 4' cripple wall braced?

Gabe S
07-16-2010, 10:22 AM
This link has a pic with the basic idea of bracing a cripple wall.

Earthquake Retrofitting, Foundation Bolting & Cripple Wall Bracing | Earthquake Safety (http://www.earthquakesafety.com/retrofitting/seismic_retrofitting.html)

Earthquake zone or not, it is still a weak spot in my unexpert opinion.

Never done it before myself, but did notice in your pic that it was missing.

Brandon Whitmore
07-16-2010, 01:45 PM
Hi Scott,

This is what I get when I try to PM you:
Scott Patterson has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

Brandon Whitmore
07-16-2010, 01:50 PM
Gabe,

That picture of the improved cripple wall bracing appears to show structural panel sheathing on one side, not both sides of the cripple studs, but I may be wrong.

Michael Chambers
07-16-2010, 03:24 PM
Hey Brandon, you're making it too difficult. If you'd click onto Scott's website link that is shown at the bottom of each one of his posts, it will take you to his website. His website has an "Email Me" link right there on the home page. Click on that and send him whatever you want.

Scott Patterson
07-16-2010, 07:32 PM
My direct email is scott@traceinspections.com The one on my site will work as well but due to the massive amounts of spam it also allows, it might be a day before I see it.

Scott Patterson
07-16-2010, 07:39 PM
This link has a pic with the basic idea of bracing a cripple wall.

Earthquake Retrofitting, Foundation Bolting & Cripple Wall Bracing | Earthquake Safety (http://www.earthquakesafety.com/retrofitting/seismic_retrofitting.html)

Earthquake zone or not, it is still a weak spot in my unexpert opinion.

Never done it before myself, but did notice in your pic that it was missing.

I agree it is needed and most likely required in seismic areas. I would consider it overkill in most other locations.

Gabe S
07-16-2010, 08:18 PM
I agree it is needed and most likely required in seismic areas. I would consider it overkill in most other locations.

The majority of the work is putting up plywood and brackets to connect the cripple wall to the flooring system with some holes for venting. Not a great deal of work here, but a substantial difference in strength.

My question is this? Why even build a cripple wall. Why not bring the foundation up directly to the flooring system. How much can the builder actually save?

Brandon Whitmore
07-16-2010, 11:06 PM
Michael,

Thanks, but I did send an e- mail to Scott through his website yesterday. I was just letting Scott know......

Scott,

I just e- mailed you at your address posted. Thanks.

Scott Patterson
07-17-2010, 07:54 AM
The majority of the work is putting up plywood and brackets to connect the cripple wall to the flooring system with some holes for venting. Not a great deal of work here, but a substantial difference in strength.

My question is this? Why even build a cripple wall. Why not bring the foundation up directly to the flooring system. How much can the builder actually save?

Well if they save $500 per home and they are building 10 homes the savings add up pretty darn quick. The photo I posted was from a Drees home, they're a large regional builder and they look at every dime.

Scott Patterson
07-17-2010, 07:55 AM
Michael,

Thanks, but I did send an e- mail to Scott through his website yesterday. I was just letting Scott know......

Scott,

I just e- mailed you at your address posted. Thanks.

You have mail!!

Brandon Whitmore
07-17-2010, 12:14 PM
E- mail received-- thanks again.
I never would have thought that a pic request would have gotten this many posts. :)

Gabe S
07-17-2010, 12:26 PM
E- mail received-- thanks again.
I never would have thought that a pic request would have gotten this many posts. :)

We can't help ourselves to point out everything we see wrong in a pic.:D It's like a reflex.

Michael Chambers
07-17-2010, 10:26 PM
We can't help ourselves to point out everything we see wrong in a pic.:D It's like a reflex.
It's also a reflection of how busy we are in this sad real estate market!

Jerry McCarthy
08-06-2010, 03:37 PM
Just for fun? :D