Granules missing on just a few shingles???

[Andy Jarchow]

Hi all,

Granules missing on a few shingles. Is this possibly a manufacturing defect?

If not what would cause this?

[John Kogel]

I would say bad shingles, most likely a flaw from the factory, but the onus is on the roofer to toss those aside. Always a big rush to stay ahead of the nailgun. :mad:

[chris mcintyre]

How old is the roof...aproximatly?

[Andy Jarchow]

How old is the roof...aproximatly?
My guess is 5 to 10 yrs.

mk

[chris mcintyre]

My guess is 5 to 10 yrs.

mk


In that case, I agree with John and Fritz. :)

[Andy Jarchow]

Thanks for the help all!

Have a great weekend.

mk

[ROBERT YOUNG]

Craze cracking (http://hinarrative.homeinspectorsites.com/reference/roof/asphalt-shingles/craze-cracking/). Kenton Shepard has written extensively about tree tab and composition shingles.
Likely manufacturing defect.

[Gunnar Alquist]

Craze cracking (http://hinarrative.homeinspectorsites.com/reference/roof/asphalt-shingles/craze-cracking/). Kenton Shepard has written extensively about tree tab and composition shingles.
Likely manufacturing defect.

Well, that was a waste of time.

[Egbert Jager]

Well, that was a waste of time.

I should have believed you....


Craze-cracking- ....
- seldom turns into splitting- which is considered functional damage.
.....

Eventually, cracks propagate through the mat to form splits. The roof is then at or near the end of its useful life.


So which is it?


Craze-cracking seldom causes leaks, because cracks are in the surface layer only. In addition, underneath each craze-cracked shingle is another shingle, usually in much better shape since it hasn't been exposed to weather. (emphasis mine)

:frusty:

[Jerry Peck]

Well, that was a waste of time.

Look at the the source of the article.

http://prugarinc.com/shingles/shingle-damage-evaluation-characteristics-of-aging-part-4a/

http://prugarinc.com/shingles/shingle-damage-evaluation-characteristics-of-aging-part-4b/

http://prugarinc.com/shingles/shingle-damage-evaluation-characteristics-of-aging-part-4c/

http://prugarinc.com/shingles/shingle-damage-evaluation-characteristics-of-aging-part-4d/

http://prugarinc.com/shingles/shingle-damage-evaluation-characteristics-of-aging-part-4e/

The overall link to shingles: http://prugarinc.com/category/shingles/

[Egbert Jager]

Look at the the source of the article.


It wasn't obvious from here so I clicked the link.

I know I shouldn't read anything from there, BUT every once in a while I have to check and see if all the things that make me want to bang my head on the wall are still there.... they are.

[Jerry Peck]

It wasn't obvious from here so I clicked the link.

As did I ... at which time the source became obvious.

[ROBERT YOUNG]

As did I ... at which time the source became obvious.
Obvious on what regard?
Kenton Shepard has written very informative articles for the inspection industry.
So please inform the members. Who here has written inspection articles on:
legal issues;
report formats;
HG template with his narratives
data-gathering methods (including mobile reporting);
reporting software (choosing and using);
report content;
report writing time;
report length;
narrative writing and library organization; and more!

Don't put a political spin on this.

Craze cracking is singular term implying a thermal reaction.

By an insurance company:
Craze Cracks (Thermal) ? Craze Cracks are a result of the mat of the asphalt shingle drying out over time, which causes the mat to shrink and results in surface cracking. Shingles that exhibit this within a few years of being installed may indicate a manufacturer defect with the shingle. Prevention: Craze cracks occur due to normal age and wear, so they are difficult to prevent. Treatment: Craze cracks are very common on roofing shingles and are usually harmless. When shingles exhibit craze cracks, they don?t necessarily need to be treated or replaced.

[Gunnar Alquist]

Obvious on what regard?
Kenton Shepard has written very informative articles for the inspection industry.
So please inform the members. Who here has written inspection articles on:
legal issues;
report formats;
HG template with his narratives
data-gathering methods (including mobile reporting);
reporting software (choosing and using);
report content;
report writing time;
report length;
narrative writing and library organization; and more!
Don't put a political spin on this.
Craze cracking is singular term implying a thermal reaction.
By an insurance company:
Craze Cracks (Thermal) ? Craze Cracks are a result of the mat of the asphalt shingle drying out over time, which causes the mat to shrink and results in surface cracking. Shingles that exhibit this within a few years of being installed may indicate a manufacturer defect with the shingle. Prevention: Craze cracks occur due to normal age and wear, so they are difficult to prevent. Treatment: Craze cracks are very common on roofing shingles and are usually harmless. When shingles exhibit craze cracks, they don?t necessarily need to be treated or replaced.

Nothing "political" Robert, at least from me. The article was a waste of my time.

1. Writing does not make someone an authority or even correct.
2. Contradictory statements in the document that you posted earlier makes it worthless.

[ROBERT YOUNG]

Nothing "political" Robert, at least from me. The article was a waste of my time.

1. Writing does not make someone an authority or even correct.
2. Contradictory statements in the document that you posted earlier makes it worthless.
What contradictory statement?

[Gunnar Alquist]

What contradictory statement?

I think you need to re-read the article.

[ROBERT YOUNG]

I should have believed you....



So which is it?

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:frusty:

Follow an age time line. It makes perfect sense when you think perfectly Jerry. That would be without bias to the association many love to hate.

[Jerry Peck]

Follow an age time line. It makes perfect sense when you think perfectly Jerry. That would be without bias to the association many love to hate.

Robert,

In my opinion, the better way to state the above is like that: 'the association that does what it can to make many hate it'

No need to rehash the years of arguments.

"It makes perfect sense when you think perfectly Jerry."

That makes no sense when thinking reasonably, let alone when thinking perfectly. It apparently looks good enough to some, though. :pop2:

[Elizabeth Chambers]

Hi all,

Granules missing on a few shingles. Is this possibly a manufacturing defect?

If not what would cause this?


What does "graze cracking" have to do with a question about granual loss on asphault shingles? Absolutly nothing.

[Elizabeth Chambers]

What does "graze cracking" have to do with a question about granual loss on asphault shingles? Absolutly nothing.

Seriously Robert, would you NOT call out the condition of those shingles in the pic included in that article?
Not call them out because you were afraid of making a client unhappy, because you were performing a computent inspection with their best interest at heart?
This has nothing to do with association politics. Its about drinking the cool-aid blindly without thinking for yourself. It's about believing someone, not because of their expierience in the field or lab, but because they wrote something for an association you believe in.

I don't give a dang who it was who wrote that, or where it originated from, if that surface cracking is considered a "normal" condition and should not be mentioned...but yet it mosly happens at the end of the life of the roof. Why write anything about it at all?

Please let me know Robert.

[ROBERT YOUNG]

Seriously Robert, would you NOT call out the condition of those shingles in the pic included in that article?
Not call them out because you were afraid of making a client unhappy, because you were performing a computent inspection with their best interest at heart?
This has nothing to do with association politics. Its about drinking the cool-aid blindly without thinking for yourself. It's about believing someone, not because of their expierience in the field or lab, but because they wrote something for an association you believe in.

I don't give a dang who it was who wrote that, or where it originated from, if that surface cracking is considered a "normal" condition and should not be mentioned...but yet it mosly happens at the end of the life of the roof. Why write anything about it at all?

Please let me know Robert.
Elizabeth, I see you have little reference to performing a home inspection.
As explained by Carson Dunlop. A home inspection is a professional consulting service that determines the present condition of the home's major systems, based on a visual inspection of accessible features. ... Inspections are often performed during a real estate transaction but may be done anytime.
As too present condition, I inform my clients on condition. The state of something 'with regards to' its imitate appearance, quality and/or present working order. IE: Good or adverse.

My opinion of your posts. Some one that has very little credible knowledge of the industry.

My I recommend. Post reference metal to back up a claim.

[ROBERT YOUNG]

Robert,

In my opinion, the better way to state the above is like that: 'the association that does what it can to make many hate it'

No need to rehash the years of arguments.

"It makes perfect sense when you think perfectly Jerry."

That makes no sense when thinking reasonably, let alone when thinking perfectly. It apparently looks good enough to some, though. :pop2:

Please Jerry, or any one on this thread. Please, provide InspectionNews a personal/professional article written by yourself. ...:typing: aimed at the home inspection industry in general. Not a scholarly article please. Just a reference article for other home inspectors or the public.
Thank you for you cooperation.

The OP posted a manufacturing defect. "Granules missing on just a few shingles???" I posted another.
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[Jerry Peck]

Elizabeth, I see you have little reference to performing a home inspection.
As explained by Carson Dunlop. A home inspection is a professional consulting service that determines the present condition of the home's major systems, based on a visual inspection of accessible features. ... Inspections are often performed during a real estate transaction but may be done anytime.
As too present condition, I inform my clients on condition. The state of something 'with regards to' its imitate appearance, quality and/or present working order. IE: Good or adverse.

My opinion of your posts. Some one that has very little credible knowledge of the industry.

My I recommend. Post reference metal to back up a claim.

Robert,

You said to Elizabeth "My opinion of your posts. Some one that has very little credible knowledge of the industry."

My opinion of your posts is of someone who 'has not spent time learning about inspecting for the benefit of one's client', instead, one has been concentrating on avoiding tough calls, falling back to SOMEONE ELSE'S training guide FOR NEW inspectors.

And "My opinion of your posts. Some one that has very little credible knowledge of the industry." applies to you - quite well stated, actually, thank you.

One must learn to grow a set (figuratively speaking) and stand up for their client's interests, NOT acquiesce to real estate agent pressure to not make correct, but tough, calls.

Calling someone out, who is new and learning to do things the right way for their clients, while apparently acquiescing to marketing pressure is quite unbecoming to one who promotes themselves as being a 'knowledgeable professional', and especially if one promotes themselves as being a master of the profession (which I recall you said you were - please correct me if I am not remembering that correctly).

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Please Jerry, or any one on this thread. Please, provide InspectionNews a personal/professional article written by yourself. ...:typing: aimed at the home inspection industry in general. Not a scholarly article please. Just a reference article for other home inspectors or the public.

Robert,

You have something against professional articles?

And you would rather read articles written that require no thinking on your part?

[CHARLIE VAN FLEET]

guys

I've been away from this forum for a while and i see one person hasn't changed one bit and just wants to be as asinine and arrogant as he can be on every thing he posts or replies to--i just blocked him and maybe best for all to do the same--just saying

cvf

[Jerry Peck]

guys

I've been away from this forum for a while and i see one person hasn't changed one bit and just wants to be as asinine and arrogant as he can be on every thing he posts or replies to--i just blocked him and maybe best for all to do the same--just saying

cvf

Charlie,

Hopefully ... you will see this. :)

If not ... :(

[CHARLIE VAN FLEET]

Jerry i see you--and enjoy your posts