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Ron Bibler
08-21-2010, 02:27 AM
This one went over my head.

Panel on the left 200 amp main Set for the home Interior. Bonded

Panel on the right 225 amp main set up for the pool house, AC, Carport. not bonded.

Location interior of a converted garage in a wall closet behind a painting.

The Service is from a Large solar system down the hill from the home 5000 S.Q. Foot home.

Everything points to a non permitted job.

Photo # 9528 225 amp panel on right
photo # 9516 220 amp panel on left
photo # 9529 225 amp panel on right

What do you think.

Best

Ron

Jerry Peck
08-21-2010, 02:36 PM
Panel on the left 200 amp main Set for the home Interior. Bonded

Panel on the right 225 amp main set up for the pool house, AC, Carport. not bonded.

Explain "bonded".

Do you mean 'the neutral is bonded to ground' and 'neutral is not bonded to ground'?

Or do you mean the enclosures are, or are not, bonded to ground?

Ron Bibler
08-21-2010, 06:34 PM
The enclosures are, and are not, bonded to ground?

Best

Ron

H.G. Watson, Sr.
08-21-2010, 07:07 PM
Ron,

Separately Derived Systems | IAEI Magazine Online (http://www.iaei.org/magazine/?p=4590)

Separately Derived Systems, IAEI Magazine August 2009

and

KDER Guide Info from UL
KDER.GuideInfo - Grounding and Bonding Equipment (http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?name=KDER.GuideInfo&ccnshorttitle=Grounding+and+Bonding+Equipment&objid=1074098839&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1073988940&sequence=1)

Note Links to QIGU for PV Systems and subsequent links.


See Art. 690.

Ron Bibler
08-21-2010, 08:54 PM
Ron,

Separately Derived Systems | IAEI Magazine Online (http://www.iaei.org/magazine/?p=4590)

Separately Derived Systems, IAEI Magazine August 2009

and

KDER Guide Info from UL
KDER.GuideInfo - Grounding and Bonding Equipment (http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?name=KDER.GuideInfo&ccnshorttitle=Grounding+and+Bonding+Equipment&objid=1074098839&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1073988940&sequence=1)

Note Links to QIGU for PV Systems and subsequent links.


See Art. 690.

Thanks HG. Good info... These panels and the complete system has no permit. After talking to the buyers agent he told me that the seller had stated these little facts along with the complete Garage convertion...

Best

Ron

Jerry Peck
08-22-2010, 09:54 AM
Don't for this from the title to the thread: "2 Panels in a closet".