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David Macy
07-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Home was built in 1952.

The utilities were off.

The main was an FPE in the garage. 1st picture.

The 2nd & 3rd photos are the original main in a 1st floor closet where they connected the new to the old. (This is were my questions are)

The 4th & 5th photos are of the new distribution (sub) panel in the basement.

Is this acceptable to tape the old to new wires in this fashion.

I did note there are some neutrals & grounds not isolated.

The buyers are under the impression that the home has a updated service. The only item updated is the distribution panel.

Home has all original wiring, FPE main, ungrounded outlets, K & T.


Thanks

Jerry Peck
07-26-2007, 01:20 PM
(This is were my questions are)

And your questions are? :)

Phillip Stojanik
07-26-2007, 01:26 PM
I certainly would not characterize what you have shown us in the photos and described in your post as an "updated service".

It looks/sounds to me like an old outdated system that just happens to have one new piece of equipment in place.

As far as the tape goes, I don't have a problem with it as long as there is an appropriately made mechanical connection for the wiring below the tape.

Richard Rushing
07-26-2007, 01:55 PM
What Philip said.

The old fuse panel is being used as a junction box.

No to being updated service. Yes, to removing the fuse panel and essentially replacing it with a new equipment panel.

Rich

David Macy
07-26-2007, 02:59 PM
And your questions are? :)

Is this acceptable to tape the old to new wires in this fashion.

Richard Rushing
07-26-2007, 03:11 PM
What Philip said: "As far as the tape goes, I don't have a problem with it as long as there is an appropriately made mechanical connection for the wiring below the tape."

RR

Eric Barker
07-26-2007, 06:57 PM
Tell your client to tell their insurance carrier about the ungrounded outlets and the K&T. More than anything, the carrier's reply will encourage a true upgrade.

Jon Randolph
07-27-2007, 03:20 AM
One problem I see is that the neutral and ground need to be isolated. While they may be on different bus bars, the uninsulated neutral is surely making contact with the metal panel and therefore the ground.