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Randall Clark
07-30-2011, 07:56 AM
House built in 1983. Crawl space very dry and no signs that significant water entry would be an issue. Pier and curtain wall. Several step cracks in curtain wall (one on right side, one at left side and one at right rear.

Pier at left rear has a gap in it that is more pronounced at front of pier than sides (indicating a tilt between blocks). Three piers to right of this one have very, very thin gaps in same place.

Odd thing is that I don't see a break between mortar on piers and curtain wall. I would think an indication of movement would be noted on either the block closest to ground or the one above.

Anyone see anything like this and what might cause be?

Garry Sorrells
07-30-2011, 08:51 AM
Shoot some pictures at us.
We all are very visual oriented.
Also confirms your description.

Randall Clark
07-30-2011, 09:03 AM
I meant to do just that....

John Kogel
07-30-2011, 10:40 AM
My guess is that clay soil under those piers has compacted, dried out, and the pier blocks have separated at their weakest mortar joints.
The weight is probably being carried by the brick wall. It needs to be repaired, but I wouldn't want to speculate beyond that.

Jerry Peck
07-30-2011, 12:27 PM
I agree with John ... and, by the way, that duct is not supported properly either - looks like the insulation is falling too.

Randall Clark
07-30-2011, 06:31 PM
My guess is that clay soil under those piers has compacted, dried out, and the pier blocks have separated at their weakest mortar joints.
The weight is probably being carried by the brick wall. It needs to be repaired, but I wouldn't want to speculate beyond that.

That was my guess too. I'll post back if I learn more from the buyer.

Gunnar Alquist
07-30-2011, 07:23 PM
I agree with John ... and, by the way, that duct is not supported properly either - looks like the insulation is falling too.

Duct? Jerry, I don' see no duct! Might be too bright in my office. Late afternoon sun.

Michael Avis
08-01-2011, 10:46 AM
The CMU was laid up flat against the brick and not dovetailed or woven into the brick in any way so it hardly qualifies as a structural pier. The bricks on top of the block were woven into the brick but at only two courses it has minimal shear strength.

What should have happened...
1. The CMU should bear on a footing and should have been laid within the wall
not installed as an after thought
2. The CMU should have had the cells filled with grout and been rodded.doweled
3. The brick should have corbeled down at least five courses or so

As is, this is a brick bearing wall with two concrete blocks leaning against it nothing more.

I think what happened is that as the house settled the brick on top of the block pushed down on the block and actually rolled it like a hinge (the gap is bigger on the outside than against the brick) until the brick above reached its limit and snapped.