Ali Techra
10-27-2011, 08:06 AM
Hello everyone,
I am building a brick step and landing for my side door and looking for some assistance with the height between the door threshold and the landing. Here are the specs:
The steps to the landing will be 12" deep (bull nose brick) and 8" high - same as recent contractor did on my front stoop.
The steps will be on the front and left side (not the right due to the proximity to the fence
The landing will be 72" wide by 43" deep (door is 30")When I measured originally, the ground was 17" to the bottom of the door threshold so I figured the 16" of steps (8" x 2) would be fine. As I got to digging the footing I noticed that the ground was pitched pretty severly. Therefore I lowered the forms approximately 4" to make them all and even distance from the threshold (pitching 1/8" per foot for drainage).
So my question is this, how far down can I have the landing from the door threshold? I really wanted to bring it right up to the bottom but it does not appear that I can do that. I think this is ok after reading another post:
- R311.4.3 Landings at doors. There shall be a floor or landing on each side of each exterior door. The floor or landing at the exterior door shall not be more than 1.5 inches (38 mm) lower than the top of the threshold. The landing shall be permitted to have a slope not to exceed 0.25 unit vertical in 12 units horizontal (2-percent).
- - Exceptions:
- - - 1. Where a stairway of two or fewer risers is located on the exterior side of a door, other than the required exit door, a landing is not required for the exterior side of the door provided the door, other than an exterior storm or screen door does not swing over the stairway.
- - - 2. The exterior landing at an exterior doorway shall not be more than 73/4 inches (196 mm) below the top of the threshold, provided the door, other than an exterior storm or screen door does not swing over the landing.
- - - 3. The height of floors at exterior doors other than the exit door required by Section R311.4.1 shall not be more than 73/4 inches (186 mm) lower than the top of the threshold.
- - The width of each landing shall not be less than the door
served. Every landing shall have a minimum dimension of
36 inches (914 mm) measured in the direction of travel
As it is now there will be about a 6" - 7" drop from the threshold to the landing. The entry door swings in, the storm door swings out.
Here is a crude mock up that helps to illustrate the situation (included the link because it does not seem to be posting the picture):
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/spta97/Footingwithcementwithdimensions.jpg
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/spta97/Footingwithcementwithdimensions.jpg
I am building a brick step and landing for my side door and looking for some assistance with the height between the door threshold and the landing. Here are the specs:
The steps to the landing will be 12" deep (bull nose brick) and 8" high - same as recent contractor did on my front stoop.
The steps will be on the front and left side (not the right due to the proximity to the fence
The landing will be 72" wide by 43" deep (door is 30")When I measured originally, the ground was 17" to the bottom of the door threshold so I figured the 16" of steps (8" x 2) would be fine. As I got to digging the footing I noticed that the ground was pitched pretty severly. Therefore I lowered the forms approximately 4" to make them all and even distance from the threshold (pitching 1/8" per foot for drainage).
So my question is this, how far down can I have the landing from the door threshold? I really wanted to bring it right up to the bottom but it does not appear that I can do that. I think this is ok after reading another post:
- R311.4.3 Landings at doors. There shall be a floor or landing on each side of each exterior door. The floor or landing at the exterior door shall not be more than 1.5 inches (38 mm) lower than the top of the threshold. The landing shall be permitted to have a slope not to exceed 0.25 unit vertical in 12 units horizontal (2-percent).
- - Exceptions:
- - - 1. Where a stairway of two or fewer risers is located on the exterior side of a door, other than the required exit door, a landing is not required for the exterior side of the door provided the door, other than an exterior storm or screen door does not swing over the stairway.
- - - 2. The exterior landing at an exterior doorway shall not be more than 73/4 inches (196 mm) below the top of the threshold, provided the door, other than an exterior storm or screen door does not swing over the landing.
- - - 3. The height of floors at exterior doors other than the exit door required by Section R311.4.1 shall not be more than 73/4 inches (186 mm) lower than the top of the threshold.
- - The width of each landing shall not be less than the door
served. Every landing shall have a minimum dimension of
36 inches (914 mm) measured in the direction of travel
As it is now there will be about a 6" - 7" drop from the threshold to the landing. The entry door swings in, the storm door swings out.
Here is a crude mock up that helps to illustrate the situation (included the link because it does not seem to be posting the picture):
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/spta97/Footingwithcementwithdimensions.jpg
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/spta97/Footingwithcementwithdimensions.jpg