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Andy Shapley
11-03-2011, 12:09 PM
Is this the proper way to attach the wire to this particular CH breaker? it is under the screw - shouldn't it be under a pressure plate? Also the stranded aluminum wire is coming from a some type of transformer on the side of the panel - wire seems too small for a 15 amp breaker - already reported to have licensed and insured electrician evaluate because of other issues. Thanks for any feedback

John Kogel
11-03-2011, 01:24 PM
The transformer is likely for the doorbell. Small stranded wire is typical. They are usually double-tapped on any handy 15 amp breaker, so you have an exception there.

I don't recognize the breaker. Some just use a big screw head. If the wire goes in on the left side, tightening the screw clockwise pulls the wire in - correct. What's the age of the house?

Andy Shapley
11-03-2011, 01:31 PM
house was built in 1926 - obviously the electrical was updated probably sometime in the 70's - there is still some live knob and tube. These are cutler hammer breakers and panel - just doesn't seem like a good connection.

H.G. Watson, Sr.
11-03-2011, 01:33 PM
The transformer is likely for the doorbell. Small stranded wire is typical. They are usually double-tapped on any handy 15 amp breaker, so you have an exception there.

I don't recognize the breaker. Some just use a big screw head. If the wire goes in on the left side, tightening the screw clockwise pulls the wire in - correct. What's the age of the house?

What exception? Poster is in NY.

Is this service equipment?

Andy Shapley
11-03-2011, 02:00 PM
this is the main panel for the house

Bruce Ramsey
11-04-2011, 08:39 AM
The transformer is likely for the doorbell. Small stranded wire is typical. They are usually double-tapped on any handy 15 amp breaker, so you have an exception there.

In my area, usually a junction box is mounted in the garage at 6 feet or higher and the transformer is attached to the box. The other most common area is a box in the crawlspace near the entrance. They are never double tapped to a handy 15 amp breaker.

Gosh, you crazy cannucks do some weird things.

Jack Feldmann
11-04-2011, 08:42 AM
I can't speak for John, but I assume he meant that is was an exception from the norm, because they DIDN'T double tap the doorbell transformer.

John Kogel
11-04-2011, 08:49 AM
In my area, usually a junction box is mounted in the garage at 6 feet or higher and the transformer is attached to the box. The other most common area is a box in the crawlspace near the entrance. They are never double tapped to a handy 15 amp breaker.

Gosh, you crazy cannucks do some weird things.No, newer construction, we usually see the transformer put in the garage or high up in a closet, just like you. But if it is attached to the side of the panel, the way oldtimers did it, then it is OFTEN double-tapped, and there are authorities here who still allow it.
The person who wired the OP's panel has dedicated an available breaker just for the doorbell. That is the only reason I used the word 'exception'. It is not a code exception, pardon me.