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Tim Sharp
02-28-2012, 07:30 PM
I'm new to the home inspection business so this might be a simple item for most. I was looking at houses with my daughter last weekend and we saw this on the back patio. I wondered if it might have something to do with termite treatment but it didn't look like any baiting system I've seen. What do you think?

wayne soper
02-28-2012, 07:35 PM
that's a cap, it screws down tight.
could be many different things depending on other evidence you mmay find.
Simplest wwould be a capped drain line in the slab foundation.
worst would be an abandoned oil tank
could also be an access to an underground drain line from roof or yard drainage.
open it and take a wiff

Kristi Silber
02-28-2012, 07:39 PM
Looks like a base for a table or umbrella or something. Where on the patio is it?

EDIT: Nevermind, Wayne's right.

Benjamin Thompson
02-28-2012, 07:50 PM
It's a pair of sunglasses you idiot!:)

Jerry Peck
02-28-2012, 08:19 PM
An improper clean out cover, possibly even a test clean out cover installed to test the system and the plumber forgot to remove it.

More likely, though, the screw in clean out cover was broken and that was installed, or (worse) the clean out fitting is broken and a screw in cover will now longer fit, thus the use of that.

Kristi Silber
02-28-2012, 08:30 PM
It's a pair of sunglasses you idiot!:)


Hee Hee, I liked that one. Belly laugh.

Tim Sharp
02-28-2012, 09:07 PM
Ok, I'm suppose to sniff it and it's a sunglasses, all good points, thank you. In a way I'm glad no one said it was obvious it was ____, that is if you don't count the sunglasses comment.

wayne soper
02-29-2012, 06:37 PM
Tim. the sniff it was not a joke.
If it smells like $hit you know its a septic line.
If it smells like soil, yuou know its a drain line.
If i was there, that's what I would do
I would have tried all options to determine what it was . before posting a pic online.
As Jerry and I stated. It is a drain line cap.
What type of drain line has yet to be determined
Hand Tightening Aluminum Single Test Plugs With By-Pass - Petersen Products Company (http://www.petersenproducts.com/143-3_pipe_plug.aspx)
gee, took me all of 10 seconds to search and find it
You spent more time asking questions than thinking practically

Billy Stephens
02-29-2012, 06:45 PM
Tim. the sniff it was not a joke.
If it smells like $hit you know its a septic line.
If it smells like soil, yuou know its a drain line.
If i was there, that's what I would do
I would have tried all options to determine what it was . before posting a pic online.
As Jerry and I stated. It is a drain line cap.
What type of drain line has yet to be determined
Hand Tightening Aluminum Single Test Plugs With By-Pass - Petersen Products Company (http://www.petersenproducts.com/143-3_pipe_plug.aspx)
gee, took me all of 10 seconds to search and find it
You spent more time asking questions than thinking practically
.
Man I'm Not Smelling That ! :eek:
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Tim Sharp
03-01-2012, 05:39 AM
Wayne, thanks for the link, good information, I do appreciate you time.

Garry Sorrells
03-01-2012, 05:51 AM
Billy,
Looks like duct tape to me.

Tim,
Smell taste test may be the most definitive
Do you have a overall pict of the patio showing cap/plug?

Tim Sharp
03-01-2012, 06:25 AM
Gary, the only picture I have that gives you any idea of the location of the cover to the house is here. To the right aprox 5 feet is the patio door. If this was my house I could see one late night I wold be stubbing my toe screaming expletives for all to hear.

Corn Walker
03-04-2012, 06:22 AM
Tim. the sniff it was not a joke.
If it smells like $hit you know its a septic line.
If it smells like soil, yuou know its a drain line.
If i was there, that's what I would do
I would have tried all options to determine what it was . before posting a pic online.
As Jerry and I stated. It is a drain line cap.
What type of drain line has yet to be determined
Hand Tightening Aluminum Single Test Plugs With By-Pass - Petersen Products Company (http://www.petersenproducts.com/143-3_pipe_plug.aspx)
gee, took me all of 10 seconds to search and find it
You spent more time asking questions than thinking practically

Wayne, there's two things here though. You already knew it was a DWV plug, Tim didn't, therefore you had a jump on what to search for. Also, as a new inspector, it's quite likely he hasn't encountered a test plug before because they're not supposed to be there. How is he to know it's okay to remove it for the smell test if he doesn't know what it is?

Cut the guy a little slack - you're beating him up because he didn't know something and came to a group of experts to further his knowledge. That's exactly what he should be doing as a new home inspector.

Garry Sorrells
03-04-2012, 10:43 AM
Gary, the only picture I have that gives you any idea of the location of the cover to the house is here. To the right aprox 5 feet is the patio door. If this was my house I could see one late night I wold be stubbing my toe screaming expletives for all to hear.

Tim,
When you see something like this you look for its position in relation to the waste lines on the interior of the house. You also look at the possibility of a clean out for exterior drain lines. Termite treatment is another possibility. I would suggest not being afraid to remove the plug and investigate. You said you were with your daughter, looking to purchase it? I never hesitate to move things and explore the unknown. What are the owners going to do to you if you did explore a little? You probably grew up with a mother telling you not to touch things when you were out in public. Inspecting a property is at times more of an investigation as to what and why thing were done. Be a risk taker...

Also, don't take comments to personally, many like to have a little fun in the response process. Though it comes across as a little harsh at times, it is good spirited.

Tim Sharp
03-04-2012, 03:41 PM
Gary,
Your input is greatly appreciated. I probably do play by the rules too much, point taken and received.

I understood the other comments to be lite hearted fun and I took it as such even though I may not have communicated that clearly.

As I mentioned I am just starting my business as a Home Inspector, I have been a licensed electrical contractor for over 25 years. I'm excited about this new direction in my life so any input I get from you guys and gals is eaten up on this end.

Let me know what you think about my new website Sharp Inspections - Sharp Inspections (http://www.sharpinspections.com)

Thanks, Tim

Ralph Stakely
03-05-2012, 02:40 PM
Tim,
The last one of those I saw was a termite bait station. (I removed the cover).
But, the screw did not protrude up. It had a screw "in" type screw with a split wedge anchor inside so as to prevent those late night "naughty" words.

BTW: "most" around here are helpful.
So grow a thick skin and stick around.
Ralph