Mitch Felton
03-21-2012, 09:03 AM
I have a Siemens G3030B1150 panel in my house and am working on finishing off my basement. I need to add 4 circuits to the panel. I have enough room to add the breakers, but I don't have enough room on the neutral or ground bars for the additional circuits. I have a service disconnect outside of my house at the meter. Inside the panel there is one neutral bar and one ground bar. Both bars are separate (i.e. no bonding strap between them) and the ground bar has the bonding screw installed. Talking to my city inspector, it sounds like I can double up on the ground wires on the ground bar so that would take care of that side of the problem. However, I'm not sure how to best get more neutral spots. I attached photos of the panel, ground bar, and neutral bar. From what I've been able to figure out I have the following options.
Try to move the neutral lug up 2 holes to the top of the neutral bar to uncover 2 more hidden slots.
Buy some sort of neutral bar kit that would allow me to add another neutral bar. Then I would have to somehow bond the 2 bars together (maybe with 2 lugs and some large gauge wire?).
Replace the existing neutral bar with a longer bar (it looks like there's room for a longer one).
Add new ground bars to the panel case at the bottem and move all ground wires to there, remove the bonding screw, and install a bonding strap between the existing neutral bar and ground bar to make them both neutrals
Any suggestions of other options I could do? Which option would be the most preferred? Also I'm having a terrible time finding Siemen's parts to even see if some these are viable options - any suggestions on where to get them? Thanks in advance!
Try to move the neutral lug up 2 holes to the top of the neutral bar to uncover 2 more hidden slots.
Buy some sort of neutral bar kit that would allow me to add another neutral bar. Then I would have to somehow bond the 2 bars together (maybe with 2 lugs and some large gauge wire?).
Replace the existing neutral bar with a longer bar (it looks like there's room for a longer one).
Add new ground bars to the panel case at the bottem and move all ground wires to there, remove the bonding screw, and install a bonding strap between the existing neutral bar and ground bar to make them both neutrals
Any suggestions of other options I could do? Which option would be the most preferred? Also I'm having a terrible time finding Siemen's parts to even see if some these are viable options - any suggestions on where to get them? Thanks in advance!