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wayne soper
03-24-2012, 05:15 AM
just wondering, hyou're thoughts would be appreciated.
Do you thing the addition of new battens between the older ones would create enough of a lack of ventilation to cause excessive roof heat buildup and premature failure?

Jerry Peck
03-24-2012, 07:23 AM
just wondering, hyou're thoughts would be appreciated.
Do you thing the addition of new battens between the older ones would create enough of a lack of ventilation to cause excessive roof heat buildup and premature failure?

No, but there is plywood or OSB on top of it all, so there is no ventilation through the roof anyway. What ventilation would be between the battens anyway?

Was that wood shake and they now have shingles on it?

Jerry McCarthy
03-24-2012, 09:53 AM
The question that begs asking is why bother with the fill-ins when they used plywood decking unless the plywood was less than 5/8" in thickness?

Billy Stephens
03-24-2012, 10:00 AM
The question that begs asking is why bother with the fill-ins when they used plywood decking unless the plywood was less than 5/8" in thickness?
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It's All Billable Materials,Labor Plus Profit Markup. ;)
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wayne soper
03-24-2012, 02:36 PM
No plywood decking. One layer cedar shingle on battens. Older battens may have been too hard to nail through. Built in 1890.
MAybe a bad photo, but no plywood.

What ventilation would be between the battens anyway?

Jerry? HUH?

Cedar saver is used with plywood decfking to allow ventilation under the shingle.
No cedar saver is required with battens because the back of the shingle gets ventilation from the attic side.
My question is, Would blocking a large portion of this ventilation from behind by doubling up on the battens casue a lack of ventilation and overheating or poor drying of the shingle.

Jerry McCarthy
03-24-2012, 03:16 PM
OK, no plywood decking, new shake roof covering installed on spaced sheathing, so how come I don't see any 15 lb. felt interlayment?

Jerry Peck
03-24-2012, 04:38 PM
No plywood decking. One layer cedar shingle on battens. Older battens may have been too hard to nail through. Built in 1890.
MAybe a bad photo, but no plywood.

What ventilation would be between the battens anyway?

Jerry? HUH?

Cedar saver is used with plywood decfking to allow ventilation under the shingle.
No cedar saver is required with battens because the back of the shingle gets ventilation from the attic side.
My question is, Would blocking a large portion of this ventilation from behind by doubling up on the battens casue a lack of ventilation and overheating or poor drying of the shingle.

The ventilation of the attic is not through the roof covering, not even cedar shingles or shakes - and that is what I thought you were referring to ... ventilation of the attic.

Cedar shingles dry out on their own, and as W C Jerry pointed out - where it the felt between courses?

The question I have, knowing now that there is no plywood or OSB on it, is 'What is the exposure of the cedar shingles?' - that is what affects the spacing of the spaced sheathing.

Other than that, no, I doubt there is any negative effect from the additional spaced board sheathing.

wayne soper
03-24-2012, 05:18 PM
No felt is used between shingle layers in this area.
Felt is used when wood shakes are used, but these are machine cut shingles.
POssibly made in china:D
Spacing is 6 inches.
Yes, I was interested in the proper drying of the shingles themselves. Not the attic.
Not a serious issue, the though just came to mind so I though I would throw it into the fire.
Thanks for you're responses ny friends!

Jerry McCarthy
03-25-2012, 08:33 AM
Sorry Wayne, I thought you stated wood shake roof covering instead of shingle. wood shingle coverings do not require interlayment.
(read the question twice Clyde!) :o

John Kogel
03-25-2012, 10:35 AM
Wayne, I think if you measured all the gaps and did the math, there would be a lot of ventilation there. Premature aging is probably due to poor quality wood. It is getting hard to find good cedar shingle wood. There are 4 grades of shingles. The best have the saw cuts almost parallel to the wood grain, and they don't curl as easily as the lower grades.

Here in BC, Canada, we are shipping raw logs to China nowadays, so your joke about 'made in China' is not too far off. :confused:

wayne soper
03-25-2012, 11:28 AM
Thanks John, That's what I was looking for. China! HAHA:D

Ken Amelin
03-26-2012, 03:03 AM
Wayne,

It looks like they added the battens to reduce the exposure. Is it possible that the first roof was slate then changed to wood shingles?