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christian wilson
04-10-2012, 02:20 PM
Hello

This is my first post, so please excuse my ignorance. I am a home owner who is trying to finish his basement. I live in MN and my house was built in 2003. My question is about the need for AFCI breakers. I have passed my electrical rough-in and am trying to prepare for the final. I have run 14-3 wire in my family room with the plan to have a multi wire branch circuit. I have been reading forums and such, and it looks like NEC requires AFCI protection now. Do I need to adhere to this rule since I am just finishing my basement? It looks like this rule was for new construction only. My panel is square D, and they don't make a double pole AFCI breaker that I can find. I actually found a release from square D stating it doesn't even look like they think multi wire branch circuits are a good idea. Please help. The NEC code is hard for me to decipher. Thanks!

Rick Cantrell
04-10-2012, 02:33 PM
Your basement may have been built in 2003 but the wiring your are adding is new construction.
If the building inspection dept in your area requires AFCI then you must have AFCI.

Jess Alvarez
04-10-2012, 02:46 PM
Christian,
Deciphering any code can be difficult. More importantly it can be very dangerous to not do it correctly, even before your inspection! Some people want to do their own installations, understandable. Learning is a good thing but at what expense? You don't know, what you don't know. Doing any part of a finished basement is challenging to say the least. Carpenters, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc. contractors have extensive training and a long apprenticeship under watchful eyes before they are considered competent enough to do a job correctly. Hire a licensed electrician. Learn a few things by seeing what they do. You will still not be able to do electrical work start to finish on your own, but it is a start. Don't electrocute yourself or a family member!

Matt Fellman
04-10-2012, 11:04 PM
Rick nailed it... it all depends on your AHJ. The NEC specifies AFCI on all 120V circuits as of 08. Some areas (like Oregon where I am) didn't adopt it. We still just have the 2003 spec of bedrooms.

In any case it's not difficult... just a bit expensive. The breakers are about $40 for an AFCI breaker instead of $5 for a regular one. For the actual wiring there's really no difference except how you attach the neutral in the panel.

Eric Barker
04-11-2012, 05:42 AM
Carpenters, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc. contractors have extensive training and a long apprenticeship under watchful eyes before they are considered competent enough to do a job correctly.

In Illinois that would be considered a vicious rumor.
As inspectors, Jess and I only can dream of such a utopia. ;)

Ken Rowe
04-11-2012, 09:15 AM
Carpenters, plumbers, electricians, HVAC, etc. contractors have extensive training and a long apprenticeship under watchful eyes before they are considered competent enough to do a job correctly.

At least that's the way it's supposed to work. lol

John Kogel
04-11-2012, 11:13 AM
Rick nailed it... it all depends on your AHJ. The NEC specifies AFCI on all 120V circuits as of 08. Some areas (like Oregon where I am) didn't adopt it. We still just have the 2003 spec of bedrooms.

In any case it's not difficult... just a bit expensive. The breakers are about $40 for an AFCI breaker instead of $5 for a regular one. For the actual wiring there's really no difference except how you attach the neutral in the panel.Where I live, work inside an electrical panel is not permitted unless you are a licensed electrician. So installing the breaker becomes a job for an electrical contractor.

Matt, does the state where citizens are not allowed to pump gas have a similar rule? :D