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Trey Humphreys
09-11-2007, 05:17 PM
How do we feel about them?

High end house with a high end detached garage. I don't like a wood stove in the garage being that there are gasoline engines and such...

I will be making the safety hazard comments required but...

What do you guys think?

David Banks
09-11-2007, 07:58 PM
NFPA 211 says: No solid fuel appliances in residential garages.

Rick Hurst
09-11-2007, 08:25 PM
Guess this would be acceptable either then? :)

Billy Stephens
09-11-2007, 08:44 PM
Rick H,

Come on Son You Know that firebox faces in. Better check the Appendix on that one.

And don't be sniping me about any perceived Personal habits.:D

Richard Hedrick
03-24-2008, 08:11 PM
I am interested in this thread, specifically what would the diffference be between a garage and a shop. If the shop is not used for vehicles is a wood stove OK?

One could make an argument that because the shop has an overhead door it is really a garage, what if this overhead door was only 5ft wide making it it impossible for a vehicle to be stored there.

This is a great forum and I appreciate your input.

Billy Stephens
03-24-2008, 08:20 PM
Richard,

The type of garage this thread is talking about is attached to the dwelling.

Thus not allowed. (See David Banks Post above.)

A Shop would be a detached building and would be approved for a Solid Fuel Burning Appliance ( if it is installed correctly.) :)

Dom D'Agostino
03-24-2008, 09:09 PM
Richard,
The type of garage this thread is talking about is attached to the dwelling. Thus not allowed.




Actually, the thread began ...


High end house with a high end detached garage.
:)

Billy Stephens
03-24-2008, 09:23 PM
Actually, the thread began ...


:)

Dom,

Didn't go all the way back up to start of the thread.

Richard Hedrick
03-24-2008, 09:36 PM
I was following this thread and always try to apply these concepts to other combinations that I have seen or maybe just a what if. So with that thought, detached or attached what conditions would have to be met for the difference between a shop or a garage.. couldn't a residence have an attached shop? I guess I am seeking an definition of "garage" and/or "shop" - thanks in advance :o

Jerry Peck
03-25-2008, 05:31 AM
So with that thought, detached or attached what conditions would have to be met for the difference between a shop or a garage.. couldn't a residence have an attached shop? I guess I am seeking an definition of "garage" and/or "shop" - thanks in advance :o


Basically, a "garage" is where vehicles are stored, which also means gasoline (or other flammable fuels) are also stored there (unless, I guess, if you were to drain the fuel tanks and oil out each time before moving the vehicle into the "garage".

A "shop" would be (in my opinion) a "workshop" where work is done, things are worked on, built, deconstructed, etc., and could include the incidental vehicle or parts thereof (i.e., the vehicle is not stored there, and, in all likelihood, the vehicle or parts would not be fully assembled and would not be operational, thus no stored fuel.

Using an open flame heat source in an area where flammable fuels are stored is ... well ... one should not even need a code to say this ... it is *DUMB*. Would be high on the Darwin Award Candidacy list.

David Edwards
12-19-2009, 08:05 PM
I have a 26 x 36 detached garage / workshop. I do some metal fabrication on the workshop side, divided only by a curtain. What would be an acceptable and inexpensive alternative to installing a natural gas heater that would make it comfortable during the Iowa winters?

Thank you

Jim Robinson
12-19-2009, 10:17 PM
Depends on your budget. In floor radiant would be ideal. Baseboard would be possible, but not as practical in a shop setting. Both could be propane, electric, fuel oil, etc. Is there a problem with natural gas, as in you don't have it at your property?

You can use natural gas heaters in a shop, there are millions of them in place. They just need to be installed properly. You would normally see a forced air unit in one of the upper corners of a shop to blow warm air around the room.

Matt Fellman
12-19-2009, 10:36 PM
Since, as home inspectors, we can't really require anyone to do anything our function is mainly to educate people. Point out the problems with fire around flammable things and leave it at that.

fwiw.... I personally call something attached to a house with a door big enough to drive a car into a garage. I'm not sure how/what the codes designate things... at some point we have to put down the code book and pick up the common sense book. 99% of the time just explaining the concept to a buyer will more than do the job.

John Kogel
12-20-2009, 11:31 AM
I have a 26 x 36 detached garage / workshop. I do some metal fabrication on the workshop side, divided only by a curtain. What would be an acceptable and inexpensive alternative to installing a natural gas heater that would make it comfortable during the Iowa winters?

Thank youYou can get comfortable in an Iowa winter? :)
What Jim said, ceiling mounted fan heaters.
There are some decent wall-mount electric fan heaters available, relatively inexpensive and you could install several.
Heat lamp on a stand works for some people.

I think natural gas can be perfectly safe if it's installed right, but the pilot light must be at least 18" above the floor level at a minimum.