Harry Shen
01-17-2013, 07:55 PM
Hello,
I am looking to have a gas fireplace installed and was looking at the the possibility of running 1/2" CSST for the install. I will have a qualified installer do the connections, however I am doing the planning, layout, etc. I need opinion on whether the below is considered safe.
One portion of my home has a basement and another portion (a later addition) has a crawlspace. There is no access to the crawlspace. There are two exterior vents in the crawlspace for ventilation though. Above the crawlspace is our living room where we want to install a gas fireplace in a corner that is opposite and away from the basement. The gas meter and all gas piping is in the basement right next to the crawlspace. The location of the fireplace is at the further/opposite end of the crawlspace from the basement.
Plumbers have taken a look and suggested a few options such as going through the attic or going from outside the house for running gas lines. However the one option that seems the simplest and the one on which I have done some work so far is as below:
I have made a 2" hole in the sill plate from the basement and pushed a 1" schedule 40 conduit all the way to the other end (its about 20 feet), then made a 1 1/2 " hole in the floor in the corner behind the fireplace right above where the conduit extends. In the conduit I also had already run two strong 1/4" polypropylene ropes that I had made a loop at the end and left sticking out the conduit. I fish for these ropes from the hole in the floor and one of the poly ropes I attach and secure to the the floor with a screw so that the conduit is not resting on the crawlspace floor, but is hung by by the rope. The other end of the rope I secure and attach in the basement to the sill plate. The conduit now rests on the sill plate in the basement on one end and is secured by the nylon rope on the other end and so does not sag nor rest on the crawlspace floor.
All the installer needs to do now is to use the other nylon rope to pull the CSST through the conduit and through the hole in the floor and then terminate it with the CSST termination plate and valve.
Since the crawlspace is vented, any leak of the CSST within the crawlspace is probably going to be aired by the crawlspace vents. Future repairs to the CSST can be made if all needed by pulling only the CSST out of the conduit after unhooking it from the gas value at the appliance end. The CSST is well supported by the conduit thus not hanging by itself nor lying on the crawlspace floor.
I would appreciate any comments on such an installation, especially the safety aspect. I understand this is non-standard but its an older house and have to think outside the box to make such things work, make it cost effective and of course it has to be safe.
Thanks,
Harry
Note the CSST will be bonded.
I am looking to have a gas fireplace installed and was looking at the the possibility of running 1/2" CSST for the install. I will have a qualified installer do the connections, however I am doing the planning, layout, etc. I need opinion on whether the below is considered safe.
One portion of my home has a basement and another portion (a later addition) has a crawlspace. There is no access to the crawlspace. There are two exterior vents in the crawlspace for ventilation though. Above the crawlspace is our living room where we want to install a gas fireplace in a corner that is opposite and away from the basement. The gas meter and all gas piping is in the basement right next to the crawlspace. The location of the fireplace is at the further/opposite end of the crawlspace from the basement.
Plumbers have taken a look and suggested a few options such as going through the attic or going from outside the house for running gas lines. However the one option that seems the simplest and the one on which I have done some work so far is as below:
I have made a 2" hole in the sill plate from the basement and pushed a 1" schedule 40 conduit all the way to the other end (its about 20 feet), then made a 1 1/2 " hole in the floor in the corner behind the fireplace right above where the conduit extends. In the conduit I also had already run two strong 1/4" polypropylene ropes that I had made a loop at the end and left sticking out the conduit. I fish for these ropes from the hole in the floor and one of the poly ropes I attach and secure to the the floor with a screw so that the conduit is not resting on the crawlspace floor, but is hung by by the rope. The other end of the rope I secure and attach in the basement to the sill plate. The conduit now rests on the sill plate in the basement on one end and is secured by the nylon rope on the other end and so does not sag nor rest on the crawlspace floor.
All the installer needs to do now is to use the other nylon rope to pull the CSST through the conduit and through the hole in the floor and then terminate it with the CSST termination plate and valve.
Since the crawlspace is vented, any leak of the CSST within the crawlspace is probably going to be aired by the crawlspace vents. Future repairs to the CSST can be made if all needed by pulling only the CSST out of the conduit after unhooking it from the gas value at the appliance end. The CSST is well supported by the conduit thus not hanging by itself nor lying on the crawlspace floor.
I would appreciate any comments on such an installation, especially the safety aspect. I understand this is non-standard but its an older house and have to think outside the box to make such things work, make it cost effective and of course it has to be safe.
Thanks,
Harry
Note the CSST will be bonded.