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CHARLIE VAN FLEET
08-22-2014, 05:28 AM
guys- i have never seen this before. the sprinkler shut off before the main shut off. doesn't seem right to me. any thoughts CVF--TRYING TO UPLOAD PHOTO

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Scott Patterson
08-22-2014, 05:47 AM
guys- i have never seen this before. the sprinkler shut off before the main shut off. doesn't seem right to me. any thoughts CVF--TRYING TO UPLOAD PHOTO

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Normal in my area. You want the structure protected if the water is turned off at the main cutoff. You still have the cutoff at the meter.

CHARLIE VAN FLEET
08-22-2014, 06:14 AM
photo i hope

Brian Hannigan
08-22-2014, 11:29 AM
Hi Charlie,

When you click "Upload Photo" a new window pops up. Any chance your browser is blocking the pop-up?

Jack Feldmann
08-22-2014, 06:24 PM
I see it all the time in my area. They usually want street pressure and not pressure after the regulator.
If needed, they can always shut off at the meter.

CHARLIE VAN FLEET
08-23-2014, 07:13 AM
here is photo yeah

Rick Cantrell
08-23-2014, 07:39 AM
Nothing wrong with doing it as shown, however, if water pressure before the PRV is over 80 psi then there is a problem.

Jerry Peck
08-23-2014, 11:08 AM
Nothing wrong with doing it as shown, however, if water pressure before the PRV is over 80 psi then there is a problem.

Why is there a problem? Sprinkler systems typically can withstand a much higher pressure, and the pressure for the domestic fixture system has been reduced to 80 psi or below.

Rick Cantrell
08-23-2014, 12:53 PM
Why is there a problem? Sprinkler systems typically can withstand a much higher pressure, and the pressure for the domestic fixture system has been reduced to 80 psi or below.

I should have said, could be a problem.

Is a portion of the sprinkler line (unregulated water pressure) inside the building footprint?
Does the sprinkler also feed the hose bib(s)?

Jerry Peck
08-23-2014, 07:02 PM
Is a portion of the sprinkler line (unregulated water pressure) inside the building footprint?
Does the sprinkler also feed the hose bib(s)?

I would hope that the sprinkler does not feed the hose bibb (not sure why it would?).

Granted, that sprinkler line in the photo is copper and I don't know what the maximum pressure rating of that copper system is, but it is not uncommon for CPVC sprinkler systems to have 150 psi and greater (I've seen some at 200 psi) and the sprinkler piping is, naturally, within the footprint of the building (has to be for the heads to be in the right areas).

The maximum 80 psi pressure limitation is for the domestic water system, not the fire sprinkler system. The piping is not the concern for the pressure in the domestic water system as much as it is for the pressure at the fixtures and appliances (one example is that the water heater T&P would open if the domestic water pressure was 150 psi).

CHARLIE VAN FLEET
08-24-2014, 05:06 PM
THIS IS THE IRRIGATION SPRINKLER SYSTEM

John Kogel
08-24-2014, 08:56 PM
THIS IS THE IRRIGATION SPRINKLER SYSTEMWhy didn't you say so? ;)

Separate shutoffs for the outdoor faucets. This might have been done to give them higher pressure. It is done that way here sometimes. Good info to pass on to the new owners.

Dana Bostick
08-25-2014, 05:28 AM
I've set them up this way on purpose in the past. It allows one to keep the irrigation system working while the house water is shut off, for maintenance or a vacation, or to shut down the sprinklers for repairs without killing the house water.

Lon Henderson
08-25-2014, 05:57 AM
I see this from time to time.....not a problem.

Joe Lancaster
08-25-2014, 06:35 AM
This installation appears to be code compliant as long as a backflow prevention device is installed on the irrigation piping to prevent cross contamination with the potable water system.