buried waste pipe no clearence

[CHARLIE VAN FLEET]

guys==in colorado the earth moves out here--found this in crawl space today--rusted castiron pipe and no clearense--what is proper clearense--thanks--cvf

[Billy Stephens]

guys==in colorado the earth moves out here--found this in crawl space today--rusted castiron pipe and no clearense--what is proper clearense--thanks--cvf

Charlie,

I'm not aware of any ground clearance requirement around a waste line.

[John Kogel]

Charlie,

I'm not aware of any ground clearance requirement around a waste line.And it doesn't matter anyway because the whole works needs to be replaced.

[CHARLIE VAN FLEET]

john would be nice to why you say that--cvf

[Jack Feldmann]

Clearance for what? The waste pipes end up going deep underground at some point to connect to sewer, or a septic tank.

[John Kogel]

john would be nice to why you say that--cvf
Even tho we often see cast iron over 100 yrs old, the lifespan is said to be 30 to 50 years. Half buried, it is rusting from inside and outside.

http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_inspection/sendmessage.php?do=sendtofriend&t=15128

[Raymond Wand]

Gunnar provided this pdf 08-27-2009

http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_inspection/plumbing-system-home-inspection-commercial-inspection/15128-history-cast-iron-drain-waste-vent-performance-lifespan.html

Post No. 3

100 years.

[John Kogel]

Raymond you need to read more of that thread.
If you insist it is 100 years you will be proven wrong.

[Garry Sorrells]

Charlie,
OP, What clearance do you think is needed and why???

John and et al,
We all know if it is on the internet it has to be true. A PDF from NAHB/Bank Of America which states that the report was based on a phone survey and we all know that what is conveyed over the phone is always completely factual and is supported by testing and is reproducible.

Really? A comprehensive phone survey? In the report introduction they note that it is a guide line. Guideline meaning that it can not be used as fact.

Then there is an argument over what to believe. The report is about as valid as any other anecdotal statement provided. It is a little concerning that so many here would not or have not questioned the research methodology of the report and it published interpretations.

Ok, a little picky, but for a group that want to see the hard print and the exact line of Code to be followed by the discussion over definition of each word it seems a little odd. You guys surprise me at times.

[Raymond Wand]

John do not accuse me of insisting anything! I simply provided a link for discussion purposes. So don't read in what you think I should think!

[CHARLIE VAN FLEET]

gary--here in colorado we get aloty of ground movement and the hood is known for it--but this house is 1970 vintage--just thinking about all the rust on pipe and rust is never good--if it was lifted off soil maybe soil moisture wouldn,t eat away at it. cvf

[Jack Feldmann]

Its still going to go into the ground at some point - it has to.

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Its still going to go into the ground at some point - it has to.

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Its still going to go into the ground at some point - it has to.

[Loren Sanders Sr.]

Its still going to go into the ground at some point - it has to.

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Its still going to go into the ground at some point - it has to.

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Its still going to go into the ground at some point - it has to.

The only clearances that I can think of that may apply to this photo is the crawl space minimum clearance and I think It is 18", could be 24".Otherwise both side of the piping appears o be accessible and an end of line cleanout clearance is unknown from this photo.

[CHARLIE VAN FLEET]

guys--two master plumbers and a sewer line inspector recommend pipe be replaced because of rust and age--that is what i will put in report--will leave it up to buyer--thanks to all--cvf

[Loren Sanders Sr.]

guys--two master plumbers and a sewer line inspector recommend pipe be replaced because of rust and age--that is what i will put in report--will leave it up to buyer--thanks to all--cvf

Charlie, I did not mention the age of the cast iron pipe but for insurance for the buyer it should be replaced.

[John Kogel]

Gunnar provided this pdf 08-27-2009

http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_inspection/plumbing-system-home-inspection-commercial-inspection/15128-history-cast-iron-drain-waste-vent-performance-lifespan.html

Post No. 3

100 years.
Hey Raymond, sorry I ticked you off. Just that this statement "100 years" Made me think you personally feel CI is good for 100 years.
I know you know as well as anybody knows that it can rust away a lot sooner than that in a wet crawlspace or basement.

[Raymond Wand]

John

Not peeved, just thought you thought that I believed it would last 100 years... actually I thought it would last forever. ;) Not. Thanks.

[John Kogel]

Well you are right, some of it will last forever, or at least as long as the house does.
Such as a painted cast iron vent stack.

[John Kogel]

Well you are right, some of it will last almost forever, or at least as long as the house does.
Such as a painted cast iron vent stack.