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David Crawford
01-05-2016, 08:19 PM
Anybody see something wrong here?

Jim Luttrall
01-05-2016, 08:28 PM
Anybody see something wrong here?
Poor photographer? ;)

Apart from the running trap, lack of trap vent, lack of secondary drain trap? I can't see much else but with a better perspective, maybe.

David Crawford
01-05-2016, 08:39 PM
Poor photographer? ;)

Apart from the running trap, lack of trap vent, lack of secondary drain trap? I can't see much else but with a better perspective, maybe.

If you are looking around the trap, you are warm.

David Crawford
01-05-2016, 09:29 PM
Here's the answer.

Garry Sorrells
01-06-2016, 01:29 AM
Shades of a Canadian reincarnation.:confused:

Jack Feldmann
01-06-2016, 08:34 AM
What is the point of this thread?

Gunnar Alquist
01-06-2016, 09:58 AM
What is the point of this thread?

I'm with you. I get kind of tired of the "let's test the inspectors" posts.

Garry Sorrells
01-06-2016, 10:08 AM
To speculate on the type tape used? I looks like Gorilla Tape. No cheep Dollar Store duck Tape there.

Or why the trap was cracked in the first place >???
Or why the HI he had for purchase didn't note it in report >???
Or why David try to force what would not flex rather that correct the issue >???
Or > ????????????????????:confused:

Bruce Ramsey
01-06-2016, 02:34 PM
The tray under the bottom cannot be pulled out because trap is in the way. Different pics.

But I agree, enough of Guess the problem posts. Give us something to go on. Then we can laugh with you.

Jerry Peck
01-06-2016, 02:57 PM
Anybody see something wrong here?

The black top on the red container is cross-threaded?

Raymond Wand
01-07-2016, 04:37 AM
So now the rules dictate that the post has to meet the critique of critics? Very professional.

Garry Sorrells
01-07-2016, 06:23 AM
So now the rules dictate that the post has to meet the critique of critics? Very professional.


I think it may be as a result of the lingering bad taste that a previous (banded/exiled) forum member created with his incessant run of what is wrong in this picture postings. Memories linger long after the meal has been digested and expelled.

Jerry Peck
01-07-2016, 07:23 AM
The ruQUOTE=Raymond Wand;263080]So now the rules dictate that the post has to meet the critique of critics? Very professional.[/QUOTE]

Post numbers 3 and 4 show the intent of the original post.

Nothing in there for a question or education.

The rules haven't changed - being professional is still the goal.

Raymond Wand
01-07-2016, 08:45 AM
Jerry it may not be educational for you or a question for your liking, but what about those that are new to the biz, or enjoy pictures of finds from inspections? Not everyone is seasoned inspector nor does every post require an explanation.

Remember a picture is worth a thousand words and professionalism is part of being courteous. ;)

Garry Sorrells
01-07-2016, 09:40 AM
Now lets play nice:o

The problem with the post is that from the 1st posting pict there is no way to see that there is a filter . Maybe a pict from a different angle. But from what I saw on my screen not really detectable.

Then with the drain lines located as they are you would expect the filter be else where. Again it a mater of angle/perspective to note filter existence at all. Damaged lines are a common item to find and most often do not make for a search to see what damaged them or why.

Lets add into the equation that if there is another filter in the return system, which is quite possible. You would not look for what we can not see from the posting pict perspective unless that tid-bit of information was provided.

To often something is totally obvious when you have it figured out. But not obvious until then.

Sooooooo, The thread posting presentation was in want of a better execution. Then again the OP David may have been trying to develop something other than just an interesting thread. Previous posts were dealing with HI report issues with his own properties he was selling and buying. Not saying there was something nefarious in the OP, just something that does cross ones mind at times.

Patience and Professionalism combined with a little Charity is often needed.

Jerry Peck
01-07-2016, 12:14 PM
Jerry it may not be educational for you or a question for your liking, but what about those that are new to the biz, or enjoy pictures of finds from inspections?

Raymond,

I was not the only one to try to decipher what the original poster's intent was. I am always open to learning more, so, if you would, please explain what could be educational about this question:


Anybody see something wrong here?

Poor focus of the photo?

Poor composition of the items in the photo?

What is the question asking for?

David Crawford
01-09-2016, 05:15 PM
Now lets play nice:o

The problem with the post is that from the 1st posting pict there is no way to see that there is a filter . Maybe a pict from a different angle. But from what I saw on my screen not really detectable.

Then with the drain lines located as they are you would expect the filter be else where. Again it a mater of angle/perspective to note filter existence at all. Damaged lines are a common item to find and most often do not make for a search to see what damaged them or why.

Lets add into the equation that if there is another filter in the return system, which is quite possible. You would not look for what we can not see from the posting pict perspective unless that tid-bit of information was provided.

To often something is totally obvious when you have it figured out. But not obvious until then.

Sooooooo, The thread posting presentation was in want of a better execution. Then again the OP David may have been trying to develop something other than just an interesting thread. Previous posts were dealing with HI report issues with his own properties he was selling and buying. Not saying there was something nefarious in the OP, just something that does cross ones mind at times.

Patience and Professionalism combined with a little Charity is often needed.

Actually, the purpose of this post was to educate those who may not be familiar with this type of unit. I admit, I could have presented it better. This has nothing to do with my previous HI experiences. My inspector for this property missed this, but I do not blame him or hold him responsible. I was very happy with his services.

The problem is with the drain lines blocking the removal of the filter. I found this while trying to troubleshoot "no heat" issues.

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What is the point of this thread?

To share and maybe educate. I've learned a lot from this forum and like to contribute.

David Crawford
01-09-2016, 05:21 PM
I'm with you. I get kind of tired of the "let's test the inspectors" posts.

Not at all my intent. Since I gave up the answer quickly, I did not troll the forum for "test replies".

David Crawford
01-09-2016, 05:34 PM
To speculate on the type tape used? I looks like Gorilla Tape. No cheep Dollar Store duck Tape there.

Or why the trap was cracked in the first place >???
Or why the HI he had for purchase didn't note it in report >???
Or why David try to force what would not flex rather that correct the issue >???
Or > ????????????????????:confused:

None of these.
The trap is wrapped in an attempt to provide insulation and stop condensation. It is in a warm, unconditioned garage. Not my doing. I plan to reroute the lines and insulate the entire pair of lines.

Jerry Peck
01-09-2016, 06:04 PM
The problem is with the drain lines blocking the removal of the filter. I found this while trying to troubleshoot "no heat" issues.

David,

The blocked filter is just one of the problems shown in the photo, others were mentioned in the posts below.

David Crawford
01-09-2016, 06:19 PM
David,

The blocked filter is just one of the problems shown in the photo, others were mentioned in the posts below.

And I very much appreciate those mentions. I'll be addressing those during the repair.

Jerry Peck
01-09-2016, 07:45 PM
And I very much appreciate those mentions. I'll be addressing those during the repair.

To add another one to the list, PVC is required to be supported at maximum spacing of 4 feet, as measured along the centerline of the piping, which likely means at least two, if not more, supports in the pipe length in the photo.

David Crawford
01-10-2016, 11:00 AM
To add another one to the list, PVC is required to be supported at maximum spacing of 4 feet, as measured along the centerline of the piping, which likely means at least two, if not more, supports in the pipe length in the photo.

Thanks for your continued support. I will be sure to address that as well.

Dave Hill
01-12-2016, 06:49 AM
And I very much appreciate those mentions. I'll be addressing those during the repair.

I have seen units like that with the filter location moved to another location around the intake area.

John Kogel
01-12-2016, 05:34 PM
None of these.
The trap is wrapped in an attempt to provide insulation and stop condensation. It is in a warm, unconditioned garage. Not my doing. I plan to reroute the lines and insulate the entire pair of lines.Thanks for the clarification. I thought maybe the taped pipe was a repair. :confused:

You could install threaded connectors so that the pipes can be moved aside. I'll bet the filter is filthy.

Your inspector should have pulled out the filter.

It is one of the things I do as a routine, pull it partway out, snap a pic, shove it back, takes just that much time and is helpful info for a buyer - Hey, you have a filter (that needs to be serviced X times a year.)