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Jim McClendon
01-05-2008, 08:28 AM
How can you tell the door is fire rated?
Scott Patterson
01-05-2008, 08:35 AM
Yes, it is not.
It has a window in it.
Jim McClendon
01-05-2008, 08:38 AM
Thanks Scott, I figured that, but is there a label or stamp on fireproof doors?
David Banks
01-05-2008, 08:53 AM
Thanks Scott, I figured that, but is there a label or stamp on fireproof doors?
Yes. Usually on hinge end of door.
Scott Patterson
01-05-2008, 09:01 AM
The door needs to have a 20 min rating or be 1 3/8" in thickness if it is a solid core. You can have a solid wood door that is 1 3/8" thick and it will satisfy the requirement. Solid wood doors seldom have a ID sticker, stamp or label on them.
Jerry McCarthy
01-05-2008, 10:21 AM
2006 IRC - 309.1 Opening protection: Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openings between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid wood doors not less than1-3/8 inches in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 1-3/8 inches thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
(no label than can't confirm therefore report)
2006 IBC See 715.5 & 715,4,6,3,1 Fire protection Glazing. For those in California see 2007 CBC 715.5.
Jerry Peck
01-05-2008, 10:37 AM
Does not need to be a fire rated door.
It could be ... or it could be (as pointed out by Jerry Mc. below) ...
solid wood doors not less than 1-3/8 inches in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 1-3/8 inches thick,
or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
Jerry Mc.,
I'm not fully understanding the below:
(no label than can't confirm therefore report)
You mean 'if not solid wood and not less than 1-3/8 inches and not a solid or honey comb steel door not less than 1-3/8 inches', right?
If not one of those, then it must be labeled (to be a fire rated door) or it is not a proper door (not fire rated, and not one of the approved options.
Scott,
A fire rated door CAN HAVE a window in it, albeit of limited size (I believe it is 100 sq inches, which is why you find 3" by 33" view glass in many fire rated doors).
A door with a window the size in the photo, I agree, with a window *like that* - not fire rated.
Also neither does it meet the other two options for doors.
Scott Patterson
01-05-2008, 02:21 PM
Scott,
A fire rated door CAN HAVE a window in it, albeit of limited size (I believe it is 100 sq inches, which is why you find 3" by 33" view glass in many fire rated doors).
A door with a window the size in the photo, I agree, with a window *like that* - not fire rated.
Also neither does it meet the other two options for doors.
That is true, but I have only seen that type of door in a commercial application and not in residental construction. But, then we are also seeing more and more commercial building products entering into the residental market.
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