View Full Version : CMU's and veneer face brick. No lintle above double doors?

Vern Heiler
04-04-2008, 03:54 PM
I've been watching threads for a couple of days and have been very impressed with all of your opinions and professional manors. Please have patients with me as I am new at the forum thing.

I inspected a house today, built in 1990, 6125 sf. Not the first time it has been sold. Single story extension to the main house, has walk-out basement beneath, with double doors leading to the patio at ground level. Basement is CMU with veneer face brick. Block extends from the ground to first floor sill. Brick veneer is from the ground to the roof, with a window in the same load line as the door. The brick veneer has a steel lintel above the double doors in the basement, but the block is supported by 2X4’s, not built as a header. A small horizontal crack has developed in the mortar joint of the first course of block above the door. The 2X4’s have noticeable sag. My guess is that the brick ties are helping hold the block up?

Questions are: if this is wrong how did it get past inspections? Should I recommend PE and stand back, or recommend general contractor install steel lintel?

Safe track would be to turn it over to PE but feel it is only CYA tactic.

wayne soper
04-04-2008, 04:02 PM
Vern, we need pics.

Vern Heiler
04-04-2008, 04:10 PM
I thought I attached 3. I'll try again... Clicked on upload photos to no avail? First post it looked like they were attached? I'll log off and try again.

Billy Stephens
04-04-2008, 04:17 PM
I thought I attached 3. I'll try again... Clicked on upload photos to no avail? First post it looked like they were attached? I'll log off and try again.


There is a size limit on uploaded photos.

I use the Free version of Bome's Image Resizer. Had to try a couple of resize options to meet the size limit. :)

Vern Heiler
04-06-2008, 03:38 PM
Second try at sending pic's. Had to complete report with safe "recommend further investigation by licensed PE", due to time restraint and I hope good sense. Here are pic's to satisfy any who are courious. I will let you know what PE says if I can.

Vern Heiler
04-06-2008, 03:40 PM
Tried to send pic:confused: resized to 800 X 600.. What am I doing wrong?

Bruce King
04-06-2008, 03:50 PM
Check the pictures and see how many kbytes they are, sometimes 800x600 will end up being a little over the limit still.

Vern Heiler
04-06-2008, 05:00 PM
If some one could tell me step by step, how you send a picture, I would be forever greatful.
I have gone to the "Additional Options" clicked "upload photos" Selected a pic from MyPictures (300 X 2??) 47Kb. Every thing looks like it will be sent but no banana???

Vern Heiler
04-06-2008, 05:21 PM
Oops! Didn't know I had to click upload again:o. Here are a couple of pic's. As I said I have had to send report (everybody in a rush).

Bruce King
04-06-2008, 05:27 PM
Looks like the lintel is missing.

Markus Keller
04-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Looks like improper/insufficient support.
Vern as a recommendation from one HI to another, based on experience and our (IL) rules. You can't and shouldn't tell them 'how' to fix it. They are too many possible ways to repair almost anything depending on various decisions the parties involved make. Just tell them what's wrong, possible outcomes due to, and/or possible options.
Just what I do. Good luck