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Jerome W. Young
04-29-2008, 12:39 PM
what about this sitting on top of some bricks? This is in the garage so I am not worried about a pan, but sitting on bricks?

Jerry McCarthy
04-29-2008, 12:44 PM
A dozen more under it and it will be fine! (just joking) :D

Billy Stephens
04-29-2008, 01:07 PM
--- This is in the garage

Jerome,

Dependant on the height of the ignition source it needs to be supported 18 inches above the garage floor.

If there is a possibility of structural damage if a leak occurred it needs to be install in a pan

If it's located in an area that a vehicle could damage the WH it needs to be protected by bollards

Jerome W. Young
04-29-2008, 01:24 PM
its electric and no concern with water damage if it leaks, no vehicle concerns either.

Scott Patterson
04-29-2008, 01:36 PM
If it was stable and did not move around I doubt that I would say anything about it.

Billy Stephens
04-29-2008, 03:06 PM
Jerome,

Dependant on the height of the ignition source it needs to be supported 18 inches above the garage floor.



its electric and no concern --

Jerome,

There has been some discussion on Electric WH as a source of ignition.as IRC M1307.3 does not specifying say Gas, but Appliances having an ignition source shall be elevated-------.

Some AHJ say Yes they do & Some say no they Don't. Not sure what you or others reading this post are working under. ;)

DeSoto, TX - Official Website (http://www.ci.desoto.tx.us/FAQ.asp?QID=66)

Rick Hurst
04-29-2008, 03:14 PM
Jerome,

Why do think its acceptable not to be 18 inches off the floor?

rick

Jerome W. Young
04-29-2008, 03:49 PM
99.9% of the electric heaters I inspect are not.

Rick Hurst
04-29-2008, 03:52 PM
Doesn't make them right.

rick

michael ivie
04-29-2008, 04:05 PM
I thought if it were electric or a FVIR you only needed a 3 inch pedestal.:confused:

Jerry Peck
04-29-2008, 04:50 PM
The bottom element needs to be 18" above the garage floor.

There needs to be a pan under the water heater (what if they stored Aunt Edna's antique table in the garage between holidays and the water heater leaked and ruined it?).

Why is there no worry about vehicle damage?

Personally, I'd want to see it in a pan and on bricks so that it was above the overflow level of the pan (to keep the water heater out of any water which would get in the pan), I'd just make sure the bricks where under the feet of the water heater is all, those look a bit far in from the edge for my comfort.

Patrick Martinez
04-29-2008, 04:56 PM
Jerome,
Jerry P. has some great points on the damage it may cause in the event of leak. However, what your local jurisdiction requires should be the rule of thumb.
In Orygun, electric units can be on grade in garages, even still, now the issue of leakage and subsequent damage. I guess the best way to look at it is that code requirements are the minimum requirements...

Pat

Patrick Martinez
04-29-2008, 04:57 PM
One other thing, Jerome, I don't recall seeing bricks as a listed item to be used as a stand for water heaters...Just food for thought...

Jerry Peck
04-29-2008, 05:00 PM
Patrick,

You can put a water heater on a concrete stand, that's not a "listed stand" either.

Patrick Martinez
04-29-2008, 05:05 PM
Hey Jerry,

true enough, though were it to be pursued by the inspector, that may be apoint of contention. I like you agree with the concrete thing as long as it meets the 3" requirement.

imported_John Smith
04-29-2008, 06:09 PM
Your missing the obvious. Thats a darn good looking floor in the garage. I wish mine looked that good.

Billy Stephens
04-29-2008, 06:17 PM
Your missing the obvious. Thats a darn good looking floor in the garage. I wish mine looked that good.


Yeah It's Got Them (sprinkle in ) Sparkles! :D

Jerome W. Young
04-30-2008, 04:26 AM
So they used the bricks to meet the 18" requirement it looks like.

The heater is in the far corner entry, but i guess they could back into it.

I agree the bricks should more uniformly distributed. I did not know water heaters had feet:) You mean the little dimples on the bottom?

A pan I agree would be nice.

Jerry Peck
04-30-2008, 06:29 AM
as long as it meets the 3" requirement.


What 3" requirement?

Billy Stephens
04-30-2008, 06:32 AM
So they used the bricks to meet the 18" requirement it looks like.

The heater is in the far corner entry, but i guess they could back into it.

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Then the garage floor is 16 inches lower than the far corner entry shown in your picture ?
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Jerry Peck
04-30-2008, 06:32 AM
So they used the bricks to meet the 18" requirement it looks like.

You measured? Looks low to me. :)


You mean the little dimples on the bottom?

Yeah, dem things. ;) (Some actually have short legs under the bottom.)