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Ted Menelly
06-20-2008, 02:54 PM
There were several stain glass windows in the home I inspected today. The only glass for these windows was the stain glass themselves.

I am just curious how other folks would word their report

Thanks
Ted

Jon Randolph
06-20-2008, 02:56 PM
Were these in bedrooms? Was there another means of egress?

Ted Menelly
06-20-2008, 03:32 PM
No, not in bedrooms. Front foyer and office,

Just no thermal rating when even the smallest window in the home was probably 1,000 dollar low e, argon, etc. etc.

There was a stain glass window in one of the second floor baths that had safety glass on the inside. This sounds like a heat up and warping concern at least.

Jerry Peck
06-20-2008, 04:36 PM
While not required, most ones I've seen had a protective glass pane outside and inside the decorative glass. Mainly to protect that investment from damage.

Ted Menelly
06-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Hey Jerry

In this new age of green and 13 seer minimum and so on isn't there something in some code somewhere that has to do with the minimum thermal and or double glazing. I could have sworn I've seen some thing but can't remember where.

What are your thoughts on the bath window that has safety on the inside but nothing outside. I have seen windows like that in the past where the heat build up between the pains warps the stain glass. What about minimum secutity and or moisture getting between the pains. It would be just like a broken seal between the double pain windows. You can lean on those windows and pop them in or out.

Thanks.

Still reading, can't find anything.

Jerry Peck
06-20-2008, 05:13 PM
Not as long as those windows were taken into consideration in the energy calculations.

At least not that I can think of.

Ted Menelly
06-20-2008, 05:25 PM
Maybe its my personal opinion that is hounding me. You take a 2 million dollar home and make it a lavish as you can inside and out with all the latest energy conscious mechanics and insulation, heat reflective sheathing, 2x6 walls 12 inches on center blah, blah, blah and then put single pain windows in several areas (yet perfectly fitting for the home).

I guess I have to learn to (maybe) keep my personal opinion to itself.

Thanks for the info

Ted

Markus Keller
06-20-2008, 05:48 PM
On the one hand you have a point, on the other hand it is Art, Design, etc. Otherwise the place is just a vanilla box.
I usually recommend to my clients to install a layer of clear plexiglass/Lexan on the outside to reduce: 1) damage 2) air infiltration 3) theft
The heat loss shouldn't be that great for a couple windows.

Ted Menelly
06-20-2008, 05:53 PM
I don't know about a vanilla box

Billy Stephens
06-20-2008, 06:24 PM
I don't know about a vanilla box
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All That And a Built In Storage Trailer. :)

Jerry Peck
06-20-2008, 07:16 PM
I guess I have to learn to (maybe) keep my personal opinion to itself.

Ted,

Yep, that is something you have to learn to do, especially if you like doing that higher end homes. :)

I've some some gaud-awful stuff in some of the ones I inspected, and, if you asked me (while there) that stuff was fantastic.

However, if you asked me later ... after I left and had a chance to clean myself up after puking ... :D

Many, many years ago I commented about a puke green-purple color painted room to my client, stating that I guess they will be painting this room first, and ... well ... my client *liked* that (named the color name) color ... and I had to retract my foot from my mouth, had that sucker shoved in all the way to my knees, I did. :o

Some things you just have to learn by experiencing them, sometimes, if you are lucky (hint, hint) you can learn by someone *else* experiencing them. :cool:

wayne soper
06-20-2008, 07:43 PM
That place looks like willie wonka and the chocolate factory and Michael Jacksons never clever land wrapped up in one

Billy Stephens
06-20-2008, 08:01 PM
-Michael Jackson's never clever land wrapped up in one

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Yeah won't be long before stuff Starts Falling Off. ;)

Ted Menelly
06-20-2008, 08:04 PM
The only reason I like doing homes like this and better is because I like the time honored work. Franky this house had serious plaster work in every room but everything was darker toned and the lighting (well costly) was so subdued I had to use my flashlight in every room.

I built and or remodelled both residential and commercial all my life and had to give opinions and suggestions. When I first inspected homes years ago it was before anyone new what a home inspection was. Doing a mix of building and inspection/evaluating homes all my life it has always been extremely difficult not to add my 2 cents worth in.

Obviously you know that. I can't help it on here.

That's why you are here Jerry, to keep me in check :)

I kept my report in check on the windows. Just mentioned possibly adding a pain to the exterior.

Thanks Jerry

Ted

(but if that were my 2 mil) shut up Ted