Mauritz Nordstrom
07-28-2008, 07:25 PM
Hi guys, help me out with this one, please.
I've got one party telling me the siding is EIFS. I've got the builder telling me, "No, it's one coat stucco." All I really know is that the siding has some stucco on top of some chickenwire lath. All of that is on top of some foam board external insulation that's applied to a weather barrier and then the sheathing. There's a weep screed at the bottom of the siding.
To me the wall has external insulation (foam board) and that together with all the other parts it's a system. It seems it fits fine with the EIFS letters, but perhaps it's a hybrid of some sort . . . a little of one and a little of another.
That's really not the main question. It has to do with the way it was installed. I've included two pictures that were taken looking upward at the bottom of the wall. You'll see the foundation to the side and then the bottom of the siding.
You'll also see the sill plate that's not entirely on top of the foundation. That's what I've found around the entire house. Some is hanging off the foundation more than others around the perimeter.
In all cases the shear panel is not inside the weep screed. I mention that because one party provided me with the siding maunfacturer installation instructions. I've included two diagrams from those instructions.
One diagram shows that the shear panel is supposed to be inside of the weep screed. The other shows that the siding is supposed to abut the side of the foundation. Neither has happened here.
So, what do you guys think about this. I've got the builder telling me it's just cosmetic and don't worry about it. I got the other party concerned that there's a problem.
Do you see this as just cosmetic? Do you see the failure to follow the instructions as a problem? Finally, what about the sill plate being partially off the side of the foundation (btw, it's a slab)?
Thanks for any advice!!!
BTW, the 2003 IRC applies to this house. The only think that I can find are sections that say for EIFS, the manufacturer instructions "shall" be followed. Another section says that stucco has to be 3-coat stucco if it's not applied over masonry, etc. In either case, the siding doesn't appear to meet code unless you have any other ideas.
I've got one party telling me the siding is EIFS. I've got the builder telling me, "No, it's one coat stucco." All I really know is that the siding has some stucco on top of some chickenwire lath. All of that is on top of some foam board external insulation that's applied to a weather barrier and then the sheathing. There's a weep screed at the bottom of the siding.
To me the wall has external insulation (foam board) and that together with all the other parts it's a system. It seems it fits fine with the EIFS letters, but perhaps it's a hybrid of some sort . . . a little of one and a little of another.
That's really not the main question. It has to do with the way it was installed. I've included two pictures that were taken looking upward at the bottom of the wall. You'll see the foundation to the side and then the bottom of the siding.
You'll also see the sill plate that's not entirely on top of the foundation. That's what I've found around the entire house. Some is hanging off the foundation more than others around the perimeter.
In all cases the shear panel is not inside the weep screed. I mention that because one party provided me with the siding maunfacturer installation instructions. I've included two diagrams from those instructions.
One diagram shows that the shear panel is supposed to be inside of the weep screed. The other shows that the siding is supposed to abut the side of the foundation. Neither has happened here.
So, what do you guys think about this. I've got the builder telling me it's just cosmetic and don't worry about it. I got the other party concerned that there's a problem.
Do you see this as just cosmetic? Do you see the failure to follow the instructions as a problem? Finally, what about the sill plate being partially off the side of the foundation (btw, it's a slab)?
Thanks for any advice!!!
BTW, the 2003 IRC applies to this house. The only think that I can find are sections that say for EIFS, the manufacturer instructions "shall" be followed. Another section says that stucco has to be 3-coat stucco if it's not applied over masonry, etc. In either case, the siding doesn't appear to meet code unless you have any other ideas.