Thread: Georgia home inspector license in the works

Joe,

That's it??

Of all the discrediting comments made over the last couple of days on a couple of threads.

I like to shoot my mouth off and irritate people. Get use to it.

No proof to the contrary of not even one statement against you?

And Oh theres a new thread coming.(as soon as Some One gives you your talking points?)

Credibility?

Originally Posted by Billy Stephens

Joe,

That's it??

Of all the discrediting comments made over the last couple of days on a couple of threads.

I like to shoot my mouth off and irritate people. Get use to it.

No proof to the contrary of not even one statement against you?

And Oh theres a new thread coming.(as soon as Some One gives you your talking points?)

Credibility?

Sorry, you can either go screw yourself, or get a ticket and stand in the big line of the of people who can kiss my ass... but I (like Jesus before me) will not defend myself against any accusations brought forth here, nothing I can say would appease my detractors anyway.

A person must be clear in their mission, your opinion of me whether good or bad is inconsequential and has no bearing on the message I deliver. Actually, it is better for me to be publicly opposed as it helps developing pinpoint clarity while removing any touchy-feely personal considerations.

I contend that it is the members of this board that have created the personal animosities that exist, you don't like my message so ... you don't like me. You don't like the fact that someone with my credentials could possibly be against licensing, and the fools that you are also believe that I am alone in my thinking.

It doesn't matter, you see the message has nothing to do with me or you, the message alone is the only thing that matters.

Aw Joe,

Did I say I didn't like you?

>I truly enjoy my popularity on this HI board of small repute,

It’s odd that you describe this as a board of small repute, given that it is the only place you have to express yourself besides the NACHI board, where they threw you off the only pseudo-committee they had allowed you to belong. Getting booted from a NACHI committee is a rare feat indeed.

>it provides me the opportunity to hone my writing skills

It’s a shame you have never availed yourself of that opportunity. You could use the practice.

>and get my political jollies off (I'm only laughing on the inside), a great man once said... "there is no bad press". Oh, yeah I remember now... it was Nick Gromicko.

It is no surprise that you describe Gromicko as a “great man”. No doubt you are also an admirer of the great success of Charles Ponzi.

>The only thing you pro-licensing kool-aid drinkers can possibly do is band together and get Brian to do something bold, cause neither I nor my message (look for a new anti-licensing thread coming soon) is going away. Ball is in your court, deal with it!

Why would Brian need to do anything “bold”? Why would Brian need to do anything at all? You don’t cause any trouble for anyone. You have no message, and you have no influence. The fact that you propose to post another message on a board you feel is of “small repute” is proof that you are desperate to have someone, anyone, acknowledge that you exist. You are nothing more than a minor irritation; a small hemorrhoid that flares up from time to time begging for attention.

It is telling that you repeat endlessly in your messages on this board and others that you are ‘here to stay’ and that others should ‘deal with it’. You have found in your life one tiny ray of notoriety – the ability to go on public message boards and be obnoxious. You tell others to ‘deal with it’ because they have no more control of the resource than you. The truth is you are able to join the conversation only because you insinuate yourself. You have never been asked for your counsel, and you will never be.

Has anyone other than I found it interesting that for 15 years Florida rejected the idea of licensing home inspectors, but adopted it very shortly after Burkeson relocated there? Not only did he lack the influence to stop licensing in his own back yard, he was probably the one inspector who illustrated the need for it.

Ironic, ain’t it?

RT

Rob,

I find your commentary quite comical, you, a food-service refugee lacking any prior experience, education or meaningful credentials applicable to the home inspection profession questioning me. Tell the truth now, your house has wheels, right? I stand on my statement you won't be in this business a year from today furthermore, no one will miss you when you are gone.

It is understandable that people here do not like my anti-licensing message, I refuse to use my station in life, leadership positions, community standing and financial worth to help the government limit my competition through bad licensing legislation. I believe in free markets & free speech and will continue to share my message and you are impotent to stop me. What I find really hysterical is that most people here like you even less, you have no supporters on this board and no one speaks well of you.

Furthermore, I sense your jealousy in regards to ICC Certification & training, I also know that you possess none of these certifications yourself due to laking the intelligence and work ethic required to attain any meaningful certification. BTW, who did you get to take your NC License exam it is fairly obvious to all that you don't have what it takes to be a home inspector?

I also like that you have no respect for NACHI and am thankful that you are not a NACHI member (I realize not everyone can pass the exam) it would be a shame to one day find you sporting a NACHI logo on your website, Oh, I forgot you have no website, business, or meaningful life to speak of, too bad.

The other thing that brings a chuckle to your detractors and those who read your posts is the public display of your girly-man weakness to do anything to change any of the insignificant things you consistently piss & moan about. Everyone realizes that you are way over your head in these arguments and are powerless to implement any program to save your self esteem or extricate yourself from this mess without becoming the point of ridicule. Don't expect any help from me either.

Oh, BTW, when I mentioned your name at ASHI, the consensus was... lightweight punk still wet behind the ears, probably won't be in business a year from now, what can I say?

Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson

I truly enjoy my popularity on this HI board of small repute, it provides me the opportunity to hone my writing skills and get my political jollies off (I'm only laughing on the inside), a great man once said... "there is no bad press". Oh, yeah I remember now... it was Nick Gromicko.

The only thing you pro-licensing kool-aid drinkers can possibly do is band together and get Brian to do something bold, cause neither I nor my message (look for a new anti-licensing thread coming soon) is going away. Ball is in your court, deal with it!

Joe, You can have all the anti-licensing threads you like,but what are you down to now 15 States, with 2 or 3 more considering regulqation? You celebrated the defeat of the Florida legislation here and on your association's MB, but you went down in flames anyway, that should have been a hint.

Several months ago you and Bushart also celebrated the defeat of licensing in Washington, refusing to listen to the people who live and do business here. You, along with your buddy James thought you knew more about Washington politics than those of us who live here, just like you both knew more about Washington laws, even more than the Washington Attorney General, mean while your own State passes HI legislation, it seems you were paying attention to the wrong place, so go ahead and post all the anti-licensing threads you like, they seem to be working well for the pro-licensing folks.

You probably don't do as much harm to your cause as your buddy Bushart does, his rants and demonstrated idiocy are the best demonstration pro-licensing people can show for the need for licensing, people up here are amused by his, and many of your ramblings about anarchy and Libertarianism, or at least your interpretations of both.

Remember several months ago when I discussed political "timing" with you, about when the best time to push for passage of HI legislation, here's an article from a Olympia, WA paper that shows that someone else appreciates the proper time to start putting real pressure on the politicians, the public has a short attention span, why would those who want licensing passed have wasted their time on the public before the issue got out of the
sunrise Committee?

State report makes case for licensing home inspectors - South Sound - The Olympian - Olympia, Washington

Keep on posting Joe, but keep in mind that posting your anti-licensing crap on HI Message Boards accomplishes nothing, the audience is wrong, the public and the politicians are the ones that you should be targeting, but your rants, name calling, and threats won't get you very far there. It only takes a few examples of HI incompetency to convince both the public and most politicians of the need for licensing, they're worried more about getting screwed by an incompetent Inspector that may cost them thousands of dollars or about losing votes from people who believe they need the "protection" that they believe licensing will provide.

You're just preaching to the choir Joe, and most of the choir doesn't agree with you, not even the InterNachi choir.

Rob,

I find your commentary quite comical, you, a food-service refugee lacking any prior experience, education or meaningful credentials applicable to the home inspection profession questioning me. Tell the truth now, your house has wheels, right? I stand on my statement you won't be in this business a year from today furthermore, no one will miss you when you are gone.

If you really believed that, you would try to raise the $10,000 that it would take to back up your hollow predictions. You lack the conviction, and the courage, to do so.

Let me tell you the truth. None of my houses have wheels.

It is understandable that people here do not like my anti-licensing message, I refuse to use my station in life,

You’re the only person I have ever encountered on any site who claimed to have a “station in life”. What is yours, exactly?

leadership positions,

You boast about them; name them.

community standing

Are you talking about that volunteer board you joined to try to get a few inspection leads? Does anyone in your community even know you?

and financial worth

It should be easy for you to risk $10,000, then. Funny that you won’t, isn’t it?

to help the government limit my competition through bad licensing legislation. I believe in free markets & free speech and will continue to share my message and you are impotent to stop me.

Of course I can’t stop you. What a silly comment. Anyone in our free land can express his ideas to all corners of the world with a cheap internet connection. You have the unlimited ability to speak; what you lack is the influence to be heard.

What I find really hysterical is that most people here like you even less, you have no supporters on this board and no one speaks well of you.

As with most everything you write, that’s just not true. On top of that, it wouldn’t matter, even if it was. You are the one who craves attention and acceptance, not I. You are here every day. I seldom visit.

Furthermore, I sense your jealousy

You “sense my jealousy”? That’s a neat trick. You don’t seem to have any sense.

in regards to ICC Certification & training, I also know that you possess none of these certifications

I hate to break the news to you, but it was you who needed ICC certification to feign competence as a home inspector, not I. I was able to squeak by with years of practical experience, and years of inspection experience.

yourself due to laking the intelligence and work ethic required to attain any meaningful certification.

I may lack intelligence, but I can spell “lacking”.


BTW, who did you get to take your NC License exam it is fairly obvious to all that you don't have what it takes to be a home inspector?

Be honest. What is fairly obvious is that I have made enough posts in the technical section to illustrate that I have a passing knowledge of home inspection. This is in direct contrast to yourself, who has neither the ability nor the charity to help other inspectors on this resource you selfishly use for your own gain.

Let me tell you the truth. I passed every exam I ever attempted.

I also like that you have no respect for NACHI and am thankful that you are not a NACHI member (I realize not everyone can pass the exam)

You also realize, of course, that Arnold Ziffel passed the NACHI exam with a 98 in 8 minutes. I vowed never to join an organization that would admit a pig.

it would be a shame to one day find you sporting a NACHI logo on your website, Oh, I forgot you have no website, business, or meaningful life to speak of, too bad.

If this were true, would you spend so much time trying (unsuccessfully) to discredit me? I think not. Try making a comment that has a least a ring of truth.

The other thing that brings a chuckle to your detractors and those who read your posts is the public display of your girly-man weakness to do anything to change any of the insignificant things you consistently piss & moan about.

If you care to re-read my few posts here, you will find that I moan only about Bushart posting here under an assumed name; and NACHI pretending that its “members” are “elite”, or even competent.

Everyone realizes that you are way over your head in these arguments and are powerless to implement any program to save your self esteem or extricate yourself from this mess without becoming the point of ridicule. Don't expect any help from me either.

Be honest. You know that everyone here knows that you were, and still are, afraid to put your money where your mouth is. You also know that everyone knows that I am willing and able to call your bluff to the tune of $10,000.

You are also wrong about me doing anything to effect change. I have found working as an expert witness to be very effective.

Oh, BTW, when I mentioned your name at ASHI, the consensus was... lightweight punk still wet behind the ears, probably won't be in business a year from now, what can I say?

Be honest. That was a complete lie. You didn’t mention my name “at ASHI”, as if “ASHI” was a place or even an assembly of people. There was no consensus, because it never happened. I hope your lack of honesty doesn’t bleed over into your work.
Let me tell you the truth. There are quite a few ASHI members who know me, but none of them would waste his time having a conversation with you. Really.

RT

If I'm so powerless why would an dipstick like you have to bother to prove anything about himself to me. I would never waste my time trying to prove anything to you as I have no respect for you to begin with and your opinion is worthless. I can only laugh, out loud and if you were here in your face, what a maroon!

Originally Posted by Rob Thomas

Don't forget, when I mentioned your name during my last trip to Florida, the inspector with whom I was chatting answered "Joe who?" when I asked if he knew you. And that was just over in Clermont.

Clermont is a white-trash magnet, a place where people end up a when they can't afford to either live in Orlando or Tampa, Its a dreary little whistle-stop on Route 52 and I am thankful that no one from that hell hole knows me, I must be doing something right. BTW, I am sure you found Clermont charming as many houses there have wheels. To sum up, Clermont is never anyone's destination it is a 2nd or 3rd place people settle for when they can't afford what they really want, you know... like where you live.

Florida is a peninsula surrounded by water and Clermont is a place where you can talk to crowds who have lived in Florida for decades and have never been to the beach. I find it hysterically funny that you would come all the way to Florida only to end up in a place like Clermont where people are either born or sentenced there due to bad choices, very fitting.

Hey does it bother you that I don't answer your lame-ass questions or attempt to counter your liquor-induced accusations... well I hope so. Too bad you couldn't get just one loser like yourself to stick up for you, I mean here is a thread with close to 2,000 hits and you have zero, zilch, nada supporters, no is going to step-up for you, Oh the humanity.

Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson

but I (like Jesus before me) will not defend myself

I know you think you put that statement in there to imply some sort of greatness, but, you have to remember that Jesus saves ...

... at the same place his brother's Juan, Julio, Jorge, and his sister Juanita save - they keep their money under their bed.

Like you, they don't trust anyone.

Originally Posted by Jerry Peck

I know you think you put that statement in there to imply some sort of greatness, but...

Jerry! - Jerry! - Jerry! (Oops, wrong show) you know me, It was strictly a tongue-in-cheek remark, but since you are here can you find in your heart to give my North Carolina Nemesis an amen? He is feeling a might poorly seeing as how he initially set out to drain the swamp but he soon found his self up to his ass in alligators.

Rob is convinced the world would be a much better place without the likes Joe Burkeson, Nick Gromicko & NACHI, the only problem is like all of his other life plans... he is powerless, impotent and lacks the necessary funding to see his vision through. I on the other hand view Rob as one of life's useful idiots, someone who was placed here as an example to others of what not to do.


Ways things would be different if Microsoft was headquartered in North Carolina

1. Their #1 product would be Microsoft Winders;

2. Instead of an hourglass icon you'd get an empty beer bottle;

3. Occasionally you'd bring up a window that was covered with a Hefty bag;

4. Dialog boxes would give you the choice of "Ahh-ight" or "Naw";

5. Instead of "Ta-Da!", the opening sound would be Dueling Banjos;

6. The "Recycle Bin" in Winders '95 would be an outhouse;

7. Whenever you pulled up the Sound Player you'd hear a digitized drunk redneck yelling "Freebird!";

8. Instead of "Start Me Up", the Winders '95 theme song would be Achy-Breaky Heart;

9. PowerPoint would be named "ParPawnt";

10. Microsoft's programming tools would be "Vishul Basic" and "Vishul C++";

11. Winders 95 logo would incorporate Confederate Flag;

12. Microsoft Word would be just that: one word;

13. New Shutdown WAV: "Y'all come back now!";

14. Instead of VP, Microsoft big shots would be called "Cuz";

15. Hardware could be repaired using parts from an old Trans Am;

16. Microsoft Office replaced with Micr'sawft Henhouse;

17. Four words: Daisy Dukes Screen Saver;

18. Well, the first thing you know, old Bill's a billionaire;

19. Speadsheet software would include examples to inventory dead cars in your front yard;

20. Flight Simulator replaced by Tractor pull Simulator;

21. Microsoft CEO: Bubba Gates;

22. Redman plug'n'play interface;

23. They could still use Ky-row as code name for next upgrade, but Albenny would be the one after that;

24. Screen saver would be a kudzu vine which would consume your program manager;

25. Instructions for use would include "mash the control key.";

26. The HQ building will be a double wide on cinder blocks, because MICROSOFT is hyear to stay.

Burkeson’s latest post proves a number of things:

He doesn’t have any inspections, so he can play on the internet all day;

He’s not only a liar, but a thief. He lifted his little list from the internet, and edited it and re-posted it without attribution. Here are excerpts from an article on one site with the title:

Things Would Be Different If Microsoft Were Located In Georgia!

· Their No. 1 product would be "Micr'sawft Winders." It comes with a background pitcher of General Lee superimposed on a Confederate flag.

· Instead of an hourglass icon you'd git an empty beer bottle.

· Occasionally, you'd bring up a window that was covered with a Hefty bag and some duct tape.

· Instead of asking "Where do you want to go today?" it's more like "Hey mister, can I ketch a ride in the back?"

· Instead of "Ta-Dah!", the default opening sound would be "Dueling Banjos."

· The "Recycle Bin" in Micr'sawft Winders95 would be an outhouse, and labelled as such.

· "My Computer" is called "This Infernal Contraption", "Dialup Networking" is called "Good Ol' Boys", "Control Panel" is known as the "Dern Dashboard", "Hard Drive" is referred to as "4-wheel drive", and floppies are them little ole plastic disc thangs.

· New Shutdown wav: Y'all come back now, Yah hear?

Since Burkeson never has an original thought, he must steal the work of others and pass it off as his own.

RT

Rob,

Are you still here? This morning I challenged all your crooked cronies and felonious friends to step up to the plate and support you on the limb you have found yourself out on and all hear are crickets. It is beginning to appear that for all the supposed good you accomplish you are still about as popular around here as a fart in church, imagine my surprise.

Maybe you should call over to ASHI and get a bunch of your pro-licensing goons to come over here and support you in your thus far failed efforts to have me silenced, what you think? Don't worry I'll loan you the friggin' quarter.

BTW Do ya really think anyone thought that I wrote the Microsoft / North Carolina thingy?

You know, the way you come round here every so often to piss & moan about everything is leading me to consider that Rob just might be short for Roberta, if that is truly the case you might want to try Midol for those monthly cramps.

Rob,

Are you still here? This morning I challenged all your crooked cronies and felonious friends to step up to the plate and support you on the limb you have found yourself out on and all hear are crickets. It is beginning to appear that for all the supposed good you accomplish you are still about as popular around here as a fart in church, imagine my surprise.

I don’t know to whom you refer, but you can raise your concerns with them directly. I’m not responsible for your fantasies.

Maybe you should call over to ASHI and get a bunch of your pro-licensing goons to come over here and support you in your thus far failed efforts to have me silenced, what you think? Don't worry I'll loan you the friggin' quarter.

Who wants you silenced? If I wanted you to be silent, I wouldn’t keep goading you.

BTW Do ya really think anyone thought that I wrote the Microsoft / North Carolina thingy?

Apparently, you think plagiarism is acceptable if everyone knows you stole someone else’s intellectual property. Personally, anytime you post something that is spelled correctly, I assume you lifted it from the internet.

You know, the way you come round here every so often to piss & moan about everything is leading me to consider that Rob just might be short for Roberta, if that is truly the case you might want to try Midol for those monthly cramps.

Here’s where our approaches differ. I comment about the things you write, and the things you have done. I’m perfectly happy to give you the opportunity to make a fool of yourself as you try to explain the inexplicable.

You fabricate stories about me and anyone else who doesn’t agree with you because you:
· can’t support any of the incredible claims you make about yourself,
· can’t offer a legitimate criticism about my ability or experience, which far surpasses your own,
· don’t have the courage to put your money where your mouth is.

How desperate would someone have to be to attend a class you teach?

RT

If I'm so powerless why would an dipstick like you have to bother to prove anything about himself to me. I would never waste my time trying to prove anything to you as I have no respect for you to begin with and your opinion is worthless. I can only laugh, out loud and if you were here in your face, what a maroon!

“an dipstick”?

You write that you would never waste your time proving anything to me, yet you spend an inordinate amount of time responding to every message I post. I know, and everyone else here knows now, that you would jump to prove your boasts if you could. Every time you are challenged, you tuck your tail. For a guy who pretends to be wealthy, $10,000 sure means a lot to you.

Clermont is a white-trash magnet, a place where people end up a when they can't afford to either live in Orlando or Tampa, Its a dreary little whistle-stop on Route 52 and I am thankful that no one from that hell hole knows me, I must be doing something right. BTW, I am sure you found Clermont charming as many houses there have wheels. To sum up, Clermont is never anyone's destination it is a 2nd or 3rd place people settle for when they can't afford what they really want, you know... like where you live.

Florida is a peninsula surrounded by water and Clermont is a place where you can talk to crowds who have lived in Florida for decades and have never been to the beach. I find it hysterically funny that you would come all the way to Florida only to end up in a place like Clermont where people are either born or sentenced there due to bad choices, very fitting.

You pretend that you won’t take the time to verify any of the information that that you publish here, as if your time was important, yet you are willing to write two paragraphs of insulting garbage about a place I stopped to buy gasoline. That tells me you have plenty of time, but nothing to say.

Hey does it bother you that I don't answer your lame-ass questions or attempt to counter your liquor-induced accusations... well I hope so.

I know you hope so, but it isn’t to be. I know you won’t answer any of the challenges I make, because you can’t. I don’t challenge you to learn the truth I already know, I do it so you will spend your time showing yourself to everyone else here. I come along every month or so just to pull your string and watch you jump.

Too bad you couldn't get just one loser like yourself to stick up for you, I mean here is a thread with close to 2,000 hits and you have zero, zilch, nada supporters, no is going to step-up for you, Oh the humanity.

I don’t need any help shooting fish in a barrel. In fact, my plan is proceeding perfectly.
RT

Robin, WTF kind of name is Robin, I'll bet you used to get your ass kicked daily on the way home from school and that is why you are as screwed up as you are today.

It figures that someone who shoots their mouth off the way you do has some deep dark secrets, Is ASHI aware that your name is Robin and not the kinder, gentler Robert, how about the licensing board? What else have you lied about? Why would you use a bogus website address for your ASHI listing? Do you drive up to inspections in your Batmobile?

ASHI Listing:
Robert Thomas
R. Thomas & Company Home Inspections
Raleigh, NC 27615
(919) 870-7437
nchomeinspections.com

NC Licensing Board Listing:
Robert S Thomas # 748
7474 Creedmoor Rd., PMB 124
Raleigh NC 27613
(919) 870-7437
NC Home Inspections - R. Thomas & Company - home inspector wake county

Copied Directly Off Your Website:
7474 Creedmoor Rd., Suite 124
Raleigh, NC 27613
Office: (919) 870-7437
Pager: (919) 899-5407
Fax: (919) 846-5159
Email: robin@rthomascompany.com

BANG! I think I heard the pistol shot!

Game Is On - No More Secrets!

That's not me, moron. Really.

Thanks for wasting your day on this fool's errand, though. While you were obsessing about me, I was inspecting a townhouse.

Maybe you should try marketing a little to fill some of your free time.

RT

Oh yeah you are a liar for sure, let's walk through the evidence.

Originally Posted by ASHI Listing

Robert Thomas
R. Thomas & Company Home Inspections
Raleigh, NC 27615
(919) 870-7437
nchomeinspections.com

Robert S. Thomas is an ASHI Inspector who has met the rigorous requirements to be a provider of The ASHI Experience, a professional home inspection that combines the highest technical skills with superior customer service. Use the contact information form below or call the home inspector directly to ask questions and schedule your home inspection.

There is only one Thomas in North Carolina who is a member of ASHI, here is the ASHI search link so if this ain't you then you are lying about being an ASHI member either way you are a liar. I'll bet $10K it is you, put your money where your mouth is liar.

Find a home inspector | ASHI, American Society of Home Inspectors

Originally Posted by North Carolina Licensing Board Search

Here is the list of North Carolina Home Inspectors.

There are three NC Licensed Thomas's listed in the state directory, which one are you? Only one is an ASHI member.

Norman Thomas # 1995
1729 Leonard Road
Salisbury NC 28146
(704) 213-1890

Robert S Thomas # 748
7474 Creedmoor Rd., PMB 124
Raleigh NC 27613
(919) 870-7437

Robert B. Thomas # 1507
379 Whispher Park Court
Wilmington NC 28411
(910) 686-9081

I think the real reason that you are attempting to hide your identity from us is your documented incompetence, you should be ashamed of yourself a certified incompetent inspector causing problems for the rest of us.

THOMAS, Robin
License 748
Complaint filed: January 6, 2003 (Raleigh)
30 day suspended license; one year probation; 8 additional hours of CE (four hours in structural and four hours in report writing); submit three reports for review.

You might want to consider becoming ICC Certified, might prevent your license being suspended in the future.

Wait till I post this story over on the NACHI board, I can't believe you are such a certified screw up.

Yes I agree... shooting fish in a barrel. You just can't make this stuff up...

Hey Peck do you believe one of his good buddies gave him up? Think he will pay up? Who would have thought, can't wait for Rob, or Robert or Robins response should be a hoot!

That is what makes me the perfect anti-licensing abmasador... intelligent, certified, experienced, proven leadership, connected & squeaky friggin' clean.

Originally Posted by Rob Thomas

Apparently, you think plagiarism is acceptable if everyone knows you stole someone else’s intellectual property. Personally, anytime you post something that is spelled correctly, I assume you lifted it from the Internet.

Yeah, maybe but I am a rock-solid certified inspector.

Apparently you think you are a competent home inspector, but it looks like the North Carolina Licensing Board disagrees.

I am hoping is is just a case of simple incompetence and you were not out deliberately cheating customers, in any case you have established yourself here as someone who should not to be looked up to or to be trusted in any leadership position.

I was surprised when no one on this message board ever came to your defense, now I understand, most likely they knew about your run in with the licensing board and were just embarrassed for you,

I believe ASHI needs to look into their membership prerequisites, looks like you fell through the cracks and were not ready to be listed as a full member. The NACHI requirements would have most likely screened you out.

That's not me, moron.


RT

Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson

Oh yeah you are a liar for sure, let's walk through the evidence.





There is only one Thomas in North Carolina who is a member of ASHI, here is the ASHI search link so if this ain't you then you are lying about being an ASHI member either way you are a liar. I'll bet $10K it is you, put your money where your mouth is liar.

Find a home inspector | ASHI, American Society of Home Inspectors






I think the real reason that you are attempting to hide your identity from us is your documented incompetence, you should be ashamed of yourself a certified incompetent inspector causing problems for the rest of us.

THOMAS, Robin
License 748
Complaint filed: January 6, 2003 (Raleigh)
30 day suspended license; one year probation; 8 additional hours of CE (four hours in structural and four hours in report writing); submit three reports for review.

You might want to consider becoming ICC Certified, might prevent your license being suspended in the future.

Wait till I post this story over on the NACHI board, I can't believe you are such a certified screw up.

Yes I agree... shooting fish in a barrel. You just can't make this stuff up...

Hey Peck do you believe one of his good buddies gave him up? Think he will pay up? Who would have thought, can't wait for Rob, or Robert or Robins response should be a hoot!

That is what makes me the perfect anti-licensing abmasador... intelligent, certified, experienced, proven leadership, connected & squeaky friggin' clean.

Fellas,

IF I could interrupt a moment.

Joe,
You might want to pack you Snow Shoes and head for Canada. You now Anti-licensing
where ever it bla-bla you know the rest.

Originally Posted by Rob Thomas

How desperate would someone have to be to attend a class you teach?

Originally Posted by "the ICC Website

Becoming ICC certified in one or more professional categories represents a significant accomplishment that offers national recognition of your achievement; increased earning and career advancement potential; and proof of your knowledge, technical expertise and commitment to protect public health safety and welfare.

Education & experience help inspectors in understanding what is required to perform competent home inspections. Assurance Check, LLC has been responsible for helping over two hundred home inspectors gain ICC Certified Building Inspector status. Of all of the our students across three states we know of none who have had to be sanctioned by their state licensing board for infractions like you have.

My partner Greg Bell has just been voted the president of Florida NACHI, one of his goals over the next three years is for each & every Florida NACHI member (about 600 members) to be certified as an ICC Residential Combination Inspector. I think it is a worthy goal, what are your plans?

I believe ASHI needs to look into their membership prerequisites, looks like you fell through the cracks and were not ready to be listed as a full member. The NACHI requirements would have most likely screened you out.

Joe... Are you competing with Harvey Hempelstein for the next nacho member of the year ??

Originally Posted by Dan Harris

I believe ASHI needs to look into their membership prerequisites, looks like you fell through the cracks and were not ready to be listed as a full member. The NACHI requirements would have most likely screened you out.

Joe... Are you competing with Harvey Hempelstein for the next nacho member of the year ??

No, the facts (check out my previous posts) are the facts, Rob, Robin whatever is an incompetent home inspector who has been sanctioned by his state for violating some portion of his states home inspection law. Furthermore he has been in my face for months attempting to prove his superiority when in fact he most likely (based on his record) would not be able to pass the NACHI exam or prerequisites. Prove me wrong.

Rob is the poster boy of why licensing doesn't work and why legislation is unable to raise the bar. The law was written to prevent Rob's incompetence from effecting the public and who did the state issue a license to... Rob.

Rob Thomas is both an embarrassment to our profession in general and ASHI in particular, I am just very thankful that he does not represent NACHI.

Rob, you out there... what say you, are you gonna let this go unchallenged?

A man has gotta know his limitations.

Originally Posted by Rob Thomas

That's not me, moron.


RT

Prove it, who are you and what is your North Carolina license number (it is public knowledge), or have you lied and you are performing home inspections in North Carolina without a license?

If you are not Rob Thomas ASHI Inspector, North Carolina License #748 then WTF are you. There is only one North Carolina ASHI inspector named Thomas, if it ain't you, then you have lied about being an ASHI inspector.

Obviously the Rob Thomas who is the ASHI inspector is the very same Robin Thomas who the licensing Board sanctioned, now WTF are you?

Or maybe you have just lied about your InspectionNews identity, if that is the case may be you should research your alias prior to stealing a name and find one that hasn't been sanctioned by the North Carolina Home Inspector Board.

Let us know what story works for you loser.

You know what, I'm just gonna send this whole thread over to the North Carolina licensing board in the morning and let then figure out which friggin' Thomas you are.

BTW you can use your standard response to me... listing each of my statements then answering them. Get your story right.

I have proven you to be wrong, I have proven you to be untruthful, and I have proven you to be a plagiarist.

Now, in an apparent effort to assist me, you are determined to prove your own ineptitude by claiming some guy in Raleigh is me.

Here’s what you can do to prove to yourself how wrong you are. See if the guy in Raleigh was in Florida this summer. I suspect he wasn’t.

In contrast, I was.

Or, you can see if he is in Raleigh tomorrow. He probably will be. I’ll be in the mountains. I hope they have WiFi.

Or, you can ask him about the bad wreck that blocked I-77 between 18 and 36 today, but since he was in Raleigh, he probably doesn't know about a traffic jam across the state.


I told you that you were wrong, but you wouldn't listen.


Facts can be a real pain in the ass sometimes, can't they?

RT

Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson

No, the facts (check out my previous posts) are the facts, Rob, Robin whatever is an incompetent home inspector who has been sanctioned by his state for violating some portion of his states home inspection law. Furthermore he has been in my face for months attempting to prove his superiority when in fact he most likely (based on his record) would not be able to pass the NACHI exam or prerequisites. Prove me wrong.

Rob is the poster boy of why licensing doesn't work and why legislation is unable to raise the bar. The law was written to prevent Rob's incompetence from effecting the public and who did the state issue a license to... Rob.

Rob Thomas is both an embarrassment to our profession in general and ASHI in particular, I am just very thankful that he does not represent NACHI.

Originally Posted by Rob Thomas

I have proven you to be wrong, I have proven you to be untruthful, and I have proven you to be a plagiarist.

You have proved squat, but I am sure the North Carolina Licensing Board will be able to get to the bottom of it, there are only so many inspectors named Thomas legally performing home inspections in North Carolina.

What about your ASHI status are you a member or a liar?

You have lied in some way about your identity and you can bet your ass I will leave no stone unturned in finding the slimy rock you are hiding under.

Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson

Education & experience help inspectors in understanding what is required to perform competent home inspections. Assurance Check, LLC has been responsible for helping over two hundred home inspectors gain ICC Certified Building Inspector status. Of all of the our students across three states we know of none who have had to be sanctioned by their state licensing board for infractions like you have.

My partner Greg Bell has just been voted the president of Florida NACHI, one of his goals over the next three years is for each & every Florida NACHI member (about 600 members) to be certified as an ICC Residential Combination Inspector. I think it is a worthy goal, what are your plans?

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy all your members the InterNachi Certified Master Inspector designation. You accused some one of possibly "cheating" their customers, don't you think that the many Nachi members who purchased that designation when it was first offered, most of whom are no where near the 1000 inspection the CMI website says they have, are cheating or at least deceiving their coustomers.

How much money do you and Greg plan on making off your members from your ICC Boot Camps and other Vendor provided training courses of unknown worth? It seems all the Nachi hierarchy are Vendors, preying on a captive membership, of course that was Nick's goal, to gather newbie Home Inspectors into a cluster where they would be easy targets for anyone with plans and training of dubious worth for sale. Do you offer Free Nachi Membership like the rest of Nick's Vendors?

Rob,

Here is my plan, let me know what you think, I am gonna contact the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensing Board and send them this thread.

I am going to explain that there is some home inspector using the name Rob Thomas on this message board who is performing home inspections in North Carolina but claims he is not the Robert Thomas listed on the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensing Board website, think they will be interested? If you ain't that Rob Thomas, then that probably means that there are unlicensed home inspections being conducted, see where this is going.

I am sure when the board contacts Brian he will be forced to share with them your full identity just to get to the bottom of the inquiry.

Hey, are you feeling me, still think licensing is a good thing, still want to play?

Every word I have posted is true. Otherwise, what would be the point?

You, on the other hand, have made some incorrect assumptions about the limited information I have provided, and I have been only too happy to allow you the freedom to be wrong.

To be fair, though, I told Bushart 2 years ago that the guy in Raleigh wasn't me. That post may be available in the archives, if you don't believe me.

RT

Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson

You have proved squat, but I am sure the North Carolina Licensing Board will be able to get to the bottom of it, there are only so many inspectors named Thomas legally performing home inspections in North Carolina.

You have lied in some way about your identity and you can bet your ass I will leave no stone unturned in finding the slimy rock you are hiding under.

Originally Posted by Rob Thomas

if you don't believe me...

I don't, but since you are in a licensed state there are no secrets, let me know what you think of my plan.

http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_i...7-post158.html

Please proceed with your plan. Also please explain to them why Bushart was posting under the assumed name of Hempelstern, and why you wrote so many unflattering things about the state of North Carolina, and licensing in North Carolina. Make sure you don’t edit the thread in any way. There are probably some sanctions involved if you try to defraud a state board by offering incomplete or altered records.

Also please ask Brian to open those unread private messages you sent to my inbox and have them forwarded to the licensing board as well. I don’t know what you wrote, but I’m sure it will give the commissioners an accurate impression of your character.

Since I am fully authorized to perform all the work for which I have issued reports, and since I have provided every client with a service that exceeded expectations, I am completely certain that the commissioners will see you for the fool you are, and wonder why you wasted their time.

RT

Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson

Rob,

Here is my plan, let me know what you think, I am gonna contact the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensing Board and send them this thread.

I am going to explain that there is some home inspector using the name Rob Thomas on this message board who is performing home inspections in North Carolina but claims he is not the Robert Thomas listed on the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensing Board website, think they will be interested? If you ain't that Rob Thomas, then that probably means that there are unlicensed home inspections being conducted, see where this is going.

I am sure when the board contacts Brian he will be forced to share with them your full identity just to get to the bottom of the inquiry.

Hey, are you feeling me, still think licensing is a good thing, still want to play?

Originally Posted by Rob Thomas

Please proceed with your plan. Also please explain to them why Bushart was posting under the assumed name of Hempelstern, and why you wrote so many unflattering things about the state of North Carolina, and licensing in North Carolina. Make sure you don’t edit the thread in any way. There are probably some sanctions involved if you try to defraud a state board by offering incomplete or altered records.

Also please ask Brian to open those unread private messages you sent to my inbox and have them forwarded to the licensing board as well. I don’t know what you wrote, but I’m sure it will give the commissioners an accurate impression of your character.

Since I am fully authorized to perform all the work for which I have issued reports, and since I have provided every client with a service that exceeded expectations, I am completely certain that the commissioners will see you for the fool you are, and wonder why you wasted their time.

RT

Game is on then, you play it your way and I'll play it mine.

Originally Posted by NC - CODE OF ETHICS

(a) Licensees shall discharge their duties with fidelity to the public, their clients, and with fairness and impartiality to all.
(b) Opinions expressed by licensees shall only be based on their education, experience, and honest convictions.
(c) A licensee shall not disclose any information about the results of an inspection without the approval of the client for whom the inspection was performed, or the client’s designated representative.
(d) No licensee shall accept compensation or any other consideration from more than one interested party for the same service without the consent of all interested parties.
(e) No licensee shall accept or offer commissions or allowances, directly or indirectly, from other parties dealing with the client in connection with work for which the licensee is responsible.
(f) No licensee shall express, within the context of an inspection, an appraisal or opinion of the market value of the inspected property.
(g) Before the execution of a contract to perform a home inspection, a licensee shall disclose to the client any interest in a business that may affect the client. No licensee shall allow his or her interest in any business to affect the quality or results of the inspection work that the licensee may be called upon to perform.
(h) Licensees shall not engage in false or misleading advertising or otherwise misrepresent any matters to the public.

It appears the North Carolina Home Inspector Code of Ethics forbids home inspectors from engaging in false or misleading advertising or otherwise misrepresenting any matters to the public.

InspectionNews is a public message board, the question becomes does the public have a right to know the identity of any licensed North Carolina home inspector who publicly posts on home inspection websites, or is it acceptable by the licensing board of North Carolina home for inspectors to use false identities on public message boards to shield their remarks from the public?

Furthermore is the operator of a public message board where home inspectors regularly post under any obligation to the public to make sure those who post on their message board are not using false identities to circumvent state law so as to misrepresent themselves and mislead the public for private gain?

I believe these are valid questions that need to be asked both of the operator of this message board and the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensing Board, what do you think? We will soon find out.

Originally Posted by Scott Patterson

This has gone under the radar. Georgia General Assembly - SB 334

Does anyone have any information about this legislation? On the surface it looks like a fairly good bill.

Out of the 162 replies to the topic " Georgia home inspector license in the works" I think only about ten deal with Georgia legislation.

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Columbus Georgia has had special requirements for an HI licence a few years now. The requirements are essentially the same as the state proposed requirements.

Brian, glad to see you intervene.
Oh yeah, thanks for the spell check.

"InspectionNews is a public message board, the question becomes does the public have a right to know the identity of any licensed North Carolina home inspector who publicly posts on home inspection websites, or is it acceptable by the licensing board of North Carolina home for inspectors to use false identities on public message boards to shield their remarks from the public?

Furthermore is the operator of a public message board where home inspectors regularly post under any obligation to the public to make sure those who post on their message board are not using false identities to circumvent state law so as to misrepresent themselves and mislead the public for private gain?

I believe these are valid questions that need to be asked both of the operator of this message board and the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensing Board, what do you think? We will soon find out."

Joe you should ask those same questions of Bushart and your CMI's, a designation created to deceive clients into believing they are hiring a qualified Master Inspector, instead of as Nick, Bushart (Harvey H.) and others Nachi leaders have stated, to allow an inspector to raise his rates. As a self proclaimed Nachi leader, you live in a glass house when it comes to misrepresentation and deception, you shouldn't throw stones.

Originally Posted by Rick Cantrell

Columbus Georgia has had special requirements for an HI licence a few years now. The requirements are essentially the same as the state proposed requirements.

Brian, glad to see you intervene.
Oh yeah, thanks for the spell check.

Rick, is that the city of Columbus, or the a county governmental body?

I'm not likely to (read, I'll never) get that far south for a job, but on the rare happenstance that someone from "out of town" rolled into Columbus to do an inspection, does he/she need to be licensed locally?

Originally Posted by Lewis Capaul

"InspectionNews is a public message board, the question becomes does the public have a right to know the identity of any licensed North Carolina home inspector who publicly posts on home inspection websites, or is it acceptable by the licensing board of North Carolina home for inspectors to use false identities on public message boards to shield their remarks from the public?

Furthermore is the operator of a public message board where home inspectors regularly post under any obligation to the public to make sure those who post on their message board are not using false identities to circumvent state law so as to misrepresent themselves and mislead the public for private gain?

I believe these are valid questions that need to be asked both of the operator of this message board and the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensing Board, what do you think? We will soon find out."

Joe you should ask those same questions of Bushart and your CMI's, a designation created to deceive clients into believing they are hiring a qualified Master Inspector, instead of as Nick, Bushart (Harvey H.) and others Nachi leaders have stated, to allow an inspector to raise his rates. As a self proclaimed Nachi leader, you live in a glass house when it comes to misrepresentation and deception, you shouldn't throw stones.

I really don't think that this is a public board. Yes it can be viewed by the public but it is owned by a single person who allows folks to use it. When a person signs up an email is sent to the email address that they sign in with, if it is fake I don't know of any method that would detect it. If they respond then they are granted permission to use the board. This is the verification process. This is the same process that NACHI uses on their board. Same process that TIJ uses as well.

Originally Posted by Scott Patterson

I really don't think that this is a public board. Yes it can be viewed by the public but it is owned by a single person who allows folks to use it. When a person signs up an email is sent to the email address that they sign in with, if it is fake I don't know of any method that would detect it. If they respond then they are granted permission to use the board. This is the verification process. This is the same process that NACHI uses on their board. Same process that TIJ uses as well.

I hear what you are saying, but I think the board is public in the sense that people from outside the home inspection profession can and do browse the messages.

That being said, I realize that you are correct in there is really no foolproof method to prevent someone who is hell-bent on being duplicitous from acquiring a log-in.

Maybe a policy that Brian might consider is full disclosure in regards to name, address, email to cut down on those who hide behind an alias.

Bob
"Rick, is that the city of Columbus, or the a county governmental body?"

Columbus Consolidated Government.
was the first City/ County government in Georgia to consolidate, 1967 I think.

"I'm not likely to (read, I'll never) get that far south for a job, but on the rare happenstance that someone from "out of town" rolled into Columbus to do an inspection, does he/she need to be licensed locally?"

Yes
They could have a business license from any City/ County in Georgia, but would still need the HI license from Columbus (or any government that has essentially the same requirements).

OK, Rick, you've got me wondering, here....

I wonder how many towns/localities in GA have similar restrictions?

I guess I'd better start researching all the towns/cities/podunks in my NW GA area.

To my knowledge only Columbus requires it now.
Columbus was also the first to require a General contractors license (about 25 years ago), Georgia will have a state GC 01/01/08 (or is it 09?).

Originally Posted by Rick Cantrell

To my knowledge only Columbus requires it now.
Columbus was also the first to require a General contractors license (about 25 years ago), Georgia will have a state GC 01/01/08 (or is it 09?).

I wouldn't be surprised if the back that out another year or two (again)... 2020?

I hope so, sent my paperwork in last year and have not heard back yet. My Dad sent his in at the same time, his was returned "DENIED". Seem he made an error on a form.