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    Default A Direct Question to Lisa Endza

    Lisa, as director of communications for NACHI, what is your response to this quote from Mr. Nick?

    "I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement that non-members should die and go to hell."

    Inquiring minds want to know.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Miller View Post
    Lisa, as director of communications for NACHI, what is your response to this quote from Mr. Nick?

    "I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement that non-members should die and go to hell."

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    Ahhh. Ole nicko is just putting this out to get noticed by obumma so he can apply for a position for writing the quiz and providing the certificiation on the "Death Panel" when nacho goes down the tubes.

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    There is a new Home Inspector in town. His only published qualifications are those published by iNACHI as a marketing tool. I will be glad to put the validity of the NHIE up against the NACHI online tests any day. iNACHI boasts about the low percentage of people who take the test pass it. What they don't say is that count of total test takers also includes casual web surfers who look at the test out of curiosity then go on to a another page. THERE IS NO WAY to track those who actually take the test for a legitimate reason versus the curious who want to see what is going on. Having taken both tests, I would want the person who passed the NHIE to work with or for me.

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    Just to clarify, my area where I live came out unscathed, but areas around me did get hit. Unfortunately one young boy was killed in Owen Sound. As usual the attempts to paint my demise are greatly exaggerated!

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    Default Re: A Direct Question to Lisa Endza

    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Miller View Post
    Lisa, as director of communications for NACHI, what is your response to this quote from Mr. Nick?

    "I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement that non-members should die and go to hell."

    Inquiring minds want to know.....


    Never did get a reply?????

    Maybe Lisa will answer since she seems to have time on her hands again.......to communicate..


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    Default Re: A Direct Question to Lisa Endza

    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Miller View Post
    Lisa, as director of communications for NACHI, what is your response to this quote from Mr. Nick?

    "I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement that non-members should die and go to hell."

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    Wow, is that for real?

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    I don't know if the quote is accurate, but I would certainly disagree with it. I would say that non-InterNACHI members who have no access to InterNACHI's unlimited, free, approved, robust inspection courses, should never perform any inspections for consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    I don't know if the quote is accurate, but I would certainly disagree with it. I would say that non-InterNACHI members who have no access to InterNACHI's unlimited, free, approved, robust inspection courses, should never perform any inspections for consumers.
    ......that statement certainly substantiates the ego driven mind-set of you and the organization you represent. I belong to no organizations, and have always remained neutral in my opinions since I do not have first-hand knowledge of their operations. Now however, you have given me enough insight to believe the negative comments I routinely read here. If you worked for me, and expressed such unprofessional rhetoric, I'd terminate your employment forthwith .......Greg


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    I belong to no organizations, and have always remained neutral in my opinions since I do not have first-hand knowledge of their operations.
    Well then, I guess you don't know what you don't know. Take some of our online exams. They will reveal your technical weaknesses that you didn't know you had. Then take our free online inspection courses to strengthen them. Email fastreply@nachi.org and simply request a free membership so that you can access everything at no charge. You'll also get all of these association member benefits for free. Don't do it for me. Don't do it for you. Do it for your clients.

    How about this? If you are reading this thread and want to find out for yourself why more than 32,000 inspectors keep renewing their membership in InterNACHI year after year after year, email fastreply@nachi.org and ask for a free 6-month membership as well. No charge. This offer open to everyone reading these words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Well then, I guess you don't know what you don't know. Take some of our online exams. They will reveal your technical weaknesses that you didn't know you had. Then take our free online inspection courses to strengthen them. Email fastreply@nachi.org and simply request a free membership so that you can access everything at no charge. You'll also get all of these association member benefits for free. Don't do it for me. Don't do it for you. Do it for your clients.

    How about this? If you are reading this thread and want to find out for yourself why more than 32,000 inspectors keep renewing their membership in InterNACHI year after year after year, email fastreply@nachi.org and ask for a free 6-month membership as well. No charge. This offer open to everyone reading these words.
    6 months FREE! whats the catch. Do you require a credit card up front?
    If its really free its worth the 2X the free admission just to see the hidden topics exposing nicki endorsed venders and their scams, and questions from newby nickie "certified " inspectors that took his endorsed / approved free on-line education courses and quizzes

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    Default Re: A Direct Question to Lisa Endza

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    I would say that non-InterNACHI members who have no access to InterNACHI's unlimited, free, approved, robust inspection courses, should never perform any inspections for consumers.
    So for those of us here who are not InterNACHI members should not be performing inspections for a fee? No matter what other qualifications that we may have, our failing to become a member of, or remain a member of InterNACHI negates any experience and training that we may have acquired from any other source?

    In the past I have been a InterNACHI member, I decided to explore some other options and may consider returning to InterNACHI at some point. There are numerous online classes & courses at INterNACHI that present some good material and these were a resource that I used regularly while I was a member. Is the material so good that you make the above statement? Sorry, but I don't really think so. It tends to push me further away from the association when I see someone making a statement such as this. To get this type statement from an association member is bad enough, but to have someone who may be considered as serving as a spokesperson for an association make this statement really crosses the line with me...

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    No matter what other qualifications that we may have, our failing to become a member of, or remain a member of InterNACHI negates any experience and training that we may have acquired from any other source?
    No, it doesn't negate it. But costs are deterrents. It's true for cigarettes and it's true for inspection education.

    I'm not going to beg you to take my free membership offer. It's your clients to serve and your kids to feed.

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    Forget it people. Lisa gets well paid to do what she does. There is no way she will ever say anything that even remotely implies that whatever she or Nick say, write, or do is anything but the greatest.

    Kind of like some people at the White House.

    The above statements are expressed solely as my opinion and in all probability will conflict with someone else's.
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    Default Re: A Direct Question to Lisa Endza

    Do you really think she writes her own responses? They sound like NG, talking.

    Director of communications is a oxymoron.


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    Ray, you are going to find difficulty making the claim that our membership benefits aren't free to those who take me up on my offer to give them free memberships.

    If anyone reading this would like to see why InterNACHI's renewal rate is the highest of any trade association in human history, email fastreply@nachi.org and request a free membership. No strings. No obligation. No cost. Cancel at any time.

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    Thanks for the offer, but I would be remiss not to point out Nachi does not have a proper complaints, discipline process, nor are its forum rules applied equally to all members. Anything goes.

    If and when its a democratically administered body with membership voting rights, bylaws, and elected board of directors then I would change my mind.

    Thanks though!


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    I'm curious. What would members vote on?

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    Kevin

    Its very evident you don't understand much of anything!

    There are not just three people on a discipline committee. Your rights are protected because the discipline process is enshrined in bylaws which protect your rights! But since you have never belonged to another functional association with bylaws you could not possibly understand!

    There is due process and an appeal process, fundamental rights, FULL STOP.

    For you to suggest there is no need for a discipline system is a farce. You know all to well how you were treated and are treated. And what goes on in that so called marketing body you belong to.

    Please, please, please don't come here and show how narrow minded you are and ignorant of how natural justice works!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    I'm curious. What would members vote on?
    For starters it just won't happen with Nick's organization.

    INACHI and Nicks various other certification mills are his and his to do with as he wants. He alone makes the rules and creates the various certifications with nobody having any governance or control over what he does. It is a privately owned business under the disguise of a not for profit. All anyone needs to do is to look at the organizations public IRS form 1099 and do a little math and it is very telling at to why Nick does not want anyone else to have a say in the organization.

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    Me jealous of Nachi? That is a far stretch of your imagination.

    With out rules there would be no order and chaos would ensue. All trademarks of the fine so called organization you say you are so proud of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Wood View Post
    The bible says ....
    ...I am dealing with several jerks on the InterNachi MB at this time.....
    Since you mention a Bible verse, perhaps you also know of this.
    Whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm.

    ' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Well then, I guess you don't know what you don't know. Take some of our online exams. They will reveal your technical weaknesses that you didn't know you had. Then take our free online inspection courses to strengthen them. Email fastreply@nachi.org and simply request a free membership so that you can access everything at no charge. You'll also get all of these association member benefits for free. Don't do it for me. Don't do it for you. Do it for your clients.

    How about this? If you are reading this thread and want to find out for yourself why more than 32,000 inspectors keep renewing their membership in InterNACHI year after year after year, email fastreply@nachi.org and ask for a free 6-month membership as well. No charge. This offer open to everyone reading these words.
    .........your smug attitude, as evidenced by your comments, are all I need to be convinced that your organization would not work for me. You sure wouldn't work for me either


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    Your clients. Your bank account. Your kids to feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Wood View Post
    That is correct and the reason I don't follow the small percentage group that are fools. I have seen the training from both sides and although I feel we should learn more complex stuff it is not needed in Home Inspection so will not be found in the regular training.
    I can get that on a need to know basis for free.
    To say the training is not good would be going against all the government grain right now as constantly the CE's are added and accepted at a rate we can't keep up with.
    .........What you have just written doesn't make much sense. I hope this is not a representative example of the communication skills you have been polishing by utilizing all this free education - if so, it's worth exactly what you paid...........Greg


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Your clients. Your bank account. Your kids to feed.
    Since it is only about making money, may I suggest:
    A title pawn
    Porn shop
    Drug dealer
    of course, leave integrity at home when you go to work.

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    If you're in business to make a good living, get out of our industry and get a job. The only reason to be in business is to make a really great living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    If you're in business to make a good living, get out of our industry and get a job. The only reason to be in business is to make a really great living.
    Given your skills and "lets-go-get-em" attitude, I suspect you may do well at selling swamp land to naive retired people. But why change tactics now? Your doing so well with the crowd you have.

    ' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.

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    32,400 of your colleagues apparently don't equate InterNACHI to "swamp land." They keep renewing year after year after year. Inspection Business Success Strategies - InterNACHI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    32,400 of your colleagues apparently don't equate InterNACHI to "swamp land." They keep renewing year after year after year. Inspection Business Success Strategies - InterNACHI
    You misunderstand, what I said was YOU would do well selling swamp land.

    ' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    32,400 of your colleagues apparently don't equate InterNACHI to "swamp land." They keep renewing year after year after year. Inspection Business Success Strategies - InterNACHI
    Funny, the INACHI IRS 990 reflects a different number of members.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Miller View Post
    Lisa, as director of communications for NACHI, what is your response to this quote from Mr. Nick?

    "I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement that non-members should die and go to hell."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    Never did get a reply?????

    Maybe Lisa will answer since she seems to have time on her hands again.......to communicate..
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    I don't know if the quote is accurate, but I would certainly disagree with it. I would say that non-InterNACHI members who have no access to InterNACHI's unlimited, free, approved, robust inspection courses, should never perform any inspections for consumers.

    Lisa;
    It is interesting that you only post and communicate on behalf of Internachi on this forum and no other. Which is curious in and of itself. Possibly it is only due to the one sided tolerance of its members of you or possibly due to the fact that there was a payment for the opportunity.

    It is also interesting that it took you so many years(almost 5 yrs) to respond to the OP. Even then you do not refute the OP statement of the quote, you only disagree, which is not much of a condemnation of a statement or philosophy by its author the President of the organization.. Yet you attempt to redefine the original quote and head off on another tangent.

    I must accept that the OP quote from Nick Gramicko , "I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement that non-members should die and go to hell.", is true and factual. Sadly, Mr Gramico was speaking on behalf of the the leadership and all of its members. Lisa, you as the Director of Communications for the organization, spokeswoman, must then also condone and support the quote since it was offered as "...I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement ...". You are still in Internachi therefore you must agree with the leadership.

    I offer this as an observation or logical argument and not an angry argument.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Miller View Post
    Lisa, as director of communications for NACHI, what is your response to this quote from Mr. Nick?

    "I and InterNACHI are in complete agreement that non-members should die and go to hell."

    Inquiring minds want to know.....
    What's the documentation or source of this quote?

    If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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    Here is the actual quote
    I would say that non-InterNACHI members who have no access to InterNACHI's unlimited, free, approved, robust inspection courses, should never perform any inspections for consumers.


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    Lisa,
    You may have like to put words into the mouth of others, but your quote is your quote. It can not replace someone words with yours, no mater how much you would like to.

    As a side note, what other forums do you participate in????


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    32,400 of your colleagues apparently don't equate InterNACHI to "swamp land." They keep renewing year after year after year. Inspection Business Success Strategies - InterNACHI
    I call bullshit. 32,000 renewals is $16 million. Inachi's latest public tax return shows a little over $2 million in income. Nonprofit Report for INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CERTIFIED HOME INSPECTORS

    So either you're lying or Nick is lying on his taxes. Isn't there a turn in tax cheats reward offered by the IRS? Why yes there is... Whistleblower - Informant Award

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    Ya know Nachi might have more credibility if its owner would stop making stupid, il informed comments, and bigoted statements. Then you wonder why people let Nachi have both barrels.

    Lead by example for once, you might just get some more flies with honey.


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    Ken, we have operations in 65 countries, not just the U.S.

    Here are our N. American membership numbers. The page is updated in live time. InterNACHI Membership Stats - InterNACHI

    You can see each member and count them if you like by adding the 2-letter state/province abbreviation to our URL. For example, these are our FL members www.nachi.org/FL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Ken, we have operations in 65 countries, not just the U.S.

    Here are our N. American membership numbers. The page is updated in live time. InterNACHI Membership Stats - InterNACHI

    You can see each member and count them if you like by adding the 2-letter state/province abbreviation to our URL. For example, these are our FL members www.nachi.org/FL
    Interesting statement since on the tax return it states Inachi has no affiliate businesses in other countries or local chapters in the U.S. Plus, as a U.S. company, income from outside the U.S. still needs to be reported and taxes paid.

    For your convenience I've attached the inachi's public 2012 tax return. inachi2012tax.pdf

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    That's an old return.

    Plus, as a U.S. company, income from outside the U.S. still needs to be reported and taxes paid.
    Your premise is wrong. Our foreign operations are not U.S. companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    That's an old return.

    Your premise is wrong. Our foreign operations are not U.S. companies.
    Yes, that is last years return but it does not even come close to supporting the member numbers for that year.

    Although I'm not versed on international tax law, I'm pretty sure if you have foreign operations the organization is required to report relationships and income from them.

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    I generally have minimum interest in squabbles between members of different associations about those associations. But Nick's attempt to insult non NACHI members has annoyed me.

    I'm no tax expert either, but when I look at line 8, and do simple math, I arrive at about 4400 paying members in the US.

    InterNACHI claims around 500 members in Colorado, so that leaves about 80 paying members per state for the rest of the US.

    Maybe I need to do complicated math.........so, Lisa, can you show us some of that math?

    But seriously, I take extreme umbrage with Nick's comments about non NACHI members. As we can see from the knowledge found among the non NACHI participants in this forum, there are plenty of top tier inspectors who haven't availed themselves of NACHI's $499/year education. After years in this business and many, many discussions with fellow inspectors from all associations, I know that I match up with the very best home inspectors around here, if not anywhere. And somehow I got here without Nick or NACHI.

    As an aside, $500 for their internet education ain't a bad price, but Lisa, you look foolish calling it "free".

    InterNACHI's certification test has been passed by at least one child (some reporter doing a story on NACHI had her little girl take the test). That's hardly an endorsement of their certification honor. Nick has written an essay on why an easy certification test is better than a hard one........it's a poor and tortured argument, in my not so humble opinion and hardly, supports his contention for the superiority of NACHI inspectors.

    It's interesting that InterNACHI garners so much animus, but after observing this for sometime, I conclude that the source is more from inside InterNACHI than it is from outside; and more directed at Nick than his company. Nick can be like a porcupine with a badger's temperament. On the other hand, attacks on NACHI makes their members defensive and even more loyal to Nick. Jim Jones comes to mind when I think of Nick. I'm amazed that he generates such loyalty. Despite anything Lisa will say to the contrary, I think that the loyalty is more for Nick than his company. Or maybe I'm just different. No professional association will ever be more than just that for me. ASHI, NAHI, or NACHI will never by my church.

    Nick goes out of his way to be outrageous and why not? It works for him and has made him wealthy. Over-the-top comments are his MO, and there's no reason to think that he'll change that.

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    A few facts you have wrong about our exams. There isn't just one, there are hundreds of quizzes and a final exam for each course. InterNACHI's courses, quizzes and exams have been awarded 1,200 governmental approvals and accreditations.

    A few facts you may not know about our finances.

    1. InterNACHI North America brings in 3.6 million in membership dues, not the 2.4 million we collected back in 2012.

    2. New members pay prorated dues. So a member who joins today adds 1 to our membership numbers, but only adds a little more than 1/2 his dues to our balance sheet.

    3. Something Nick has steadfastly maintained is that we never, ever raise dues on existing members. Most of our members are still paying $289/year, the price they joined at many years ago. If they joined at $365, they pay $365 forever. Our current dues are $499 for new members and those members will also never have their dues raised. I believe our dues for new members are going up to $1,000/year, but again, dues on current members never go up.


    I'm amazed that he generates such loyalty. Despite anything Lisa will say to the contrary, I think that the loyalty is more for Nick than his company.
    You've actually figured it out. It's been a secret, but since you cracked the code, I'll confirm it. InterNACHI doesn't get that many new members each month. Probably about as many as other associations, or fewer. So how did InterNACHI grow to be so big? The secret to InterNACHI's growth is that we almost never lose any members. Unless you retire, sell, or die, you never leave. Our renewal rate is over 99%, the highest renewal rate of any trade association in any industry in the world.

    It's true, members like Nick. But they love InterNACHI. InterNACHI makes them money and continues to provide them with more and more competitive advantages over non-members.

    And finally, the loyalty goes both ways. Nick is really loyal to InterNACHI members. I can swear to this much. He answers every email from InterNACHI members personally. He gives every member his personal cell phone number.

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    Unless you retire, sell, or die, you never leave. Our renewal rate is over 99%, the highest renewal rate of any trade association in any industry in the world.
    This sounds like the Southern Baptist Church, once listed you are always listed! I think I'm still listed as a member from a church I moved away from 8 years ago!

    Folks go out of business every day. Just in TN alone the number of inspectors dropped from an all time high of 1137 in 2010 down to 409 as of a few days ago. Out of this 1100+, I bet one third were members of INACHI based on the numbers posted for TN over the past few years.

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    I see, you're taking into account all the free memberships you give away. Buy a mold test kit, get a free inachi membership. (like a toy in a cereal box) Which apparently, according to Lisa, you never have to pay anything for.
    Something Nick has steadfastly maintained is that we never, ever raise dues on existing members.
    So, get a free membership, and never have to pay anything to renew. Inachi must have thousands of these to be able to report such a low income of $2.2 million with Nick taking 20% right off the top.

    Your premise is wrong. Our foreign operations are not U.S. companies.
    That's an interesting statement since 14a of your tax return states, "Did the organization maintain an office, employees, or agents outside the United States? inachi answered "No".

    While you're scrambling to make up answers for that one, how about explaining Section B, line 10a that asks, "Did the organization have local chapters, branches, or affiliates? inachi's answer, "No".

    And, Section C, line 18 asks how inachi's tax returns were made public. inachi's answered via it's website. Please provide us with a link to your public tax returns, even the most current one which you keep referring to.

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    Folks go out of business every day. Just in TN alone the number of inspectors dropped from an all time high of 1137 in 2010 down to 409 as of a few days ago.
    We're obviously not counting inspectors who quit the business altogether, sold their companies, or died when calculating our renewal rate. By the way, you stated that Tennessee has only 409 inspectors left. Nearly 1/2 of them are InterNACHI members Tennessee Home Inspectors - Find a Home Inspector - InterNACHI

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    Inachi must have thousands of these to be able to report such a low income of $2.2 million
    You're reading from an old return. InterNACHI's U.S. revenue alone is 3.6 million.

    "Did the organization maintain an office, employees, or agents outside the United States? inachi answered "No".
    We answered "no" because that's the correct answser. I don't know how many different ways I can explain this to you. Foreign operations are not in the U.S. They are financially separate associations, based in foreign countries that file separate tax returns in the country they are based in. Why would an association incorporated in China, with its members in China, its office in China, its bank in China, and its employees in China file a U.S. tax return?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    You're reading from an old return. InterNACHI's U.S. revenue alone is 3.6 million.
    Please provide us with a link to your most current return. 501 (c) (6) filing status requires you provide this information to the public. Please provide it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    We answered "no" because that's the correct answser. I don't know how many different ways I can explain this to you. Foreign operations are not in the U.S. They are financially separate associations, based in foreign countries that file separate tax returns in the country they are based in. Why would an association incorporated in China, with its members in China, its office in China, its bank in China, and its employees in China file a U.S. tax return?
    So you're claiming to have foreign operations of inachi, but they're in no way affiliated with inachi and are incorporated in other countries? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

    While you're scrambling to make up answers for that one, how about explaining Section B, line 10a that asks, "Did the organization have local chapters, branches, or affiliates? inachi's answer, "No". Please answer the questions.

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    Did the organization have local chapters, branches, or affiliates? inachi's answer, "No"
    Correct. Our chapters are not chartered and not separate entities. They are merely regular meetings that we call "chapters." So they don't meet the IRS's accounting definition of chapters or branches. So our answer is correct.

    So you're claiming to have foreign operations of inachi, but they're in no way affiliated with inachi and are incorporated in other countries? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
    It is obvious that it makes no sense to you. InterNACHI in other countries isn't the same entity as InterNACHI in the U.S. They are different entities. The InterNACHIs that are based in other countries don't file U.S. tax returns, some don't even speak English. And InterNACHI in the U.S. doesn't file tax returns in China. I can keep explaining it for you, but I can't understand it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    InterNACHI in other countries isn't the same entity as InterNACHI in the U.S. They are different entities.
    Then how can you count them as members? If they're totally separate entities, aren't paying you to be members, aren't paying taxes in the U.S. how on earth can you count them as members?

    That's like saying my business has 2,000 inspectors because I know 2,000 other home inspectors, when in reality there are only two of us.

    And...I'll ask again; Please provide us with a link to your most current return. 501 (c) (6) filing status requires you provide this information to the public. Please provide it.

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    We post them publicly here The International Association of Certified Home Inspector, Inc.'s (InterNACHI) annual tax exempt status. - InterNACHI

    In 2009, InterNACHI U.S. did 1.5 million in dues
    In 2010, InterNACHI U.S. did 1.7 million in dues
    In 2011, InterNACHI U.S. did 1.9 million in dues
    In 2012, InterNACHI U.S. did 2.4 million in dues (about 7,500 members)
    In 2013, InterNACHI U.S. did 2.7 million in dues (about 8,600 members)
    In 2014, InterNACHI U.S. is on target to do about three and half million (11,200 members)

    ASHI hides their 990's and won't post them publicly online because they lost most of their members to us. This year, for the first time, they even stopped publishing their membership numbers in their ASHI Reporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    We're obviously not counting inspectors who quit the business altogether, sold their companies, or died when calculating our renewal rate. By the way, you stated that Tennessee has only 409 inspectors left. Nearly 1/2 of them are InterNACHI members Tennessee Home Inspectors - Find a Home Inspector - InterNACHI

    No Lisa, that is not what I posted....

    So you do not count those that go out of business or do not renew for various reasons? Then how can your organization have a 99% renewal rate when 99% of your members do not renew every year?

    Me thinks that y'all just post what you want when it comes to numbers and pretty much anything else that requires accountability.

    As for ASHI not posting their 990's, why should they? They are public documents that anyone can see if they just go and request them.. I'm sure Nick has a copy or two already...

    I'm done feeding the troll......

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    As for ASHI not posting their 990's, why should they? They are public documents that anyone can see if they just go and request them.. I'm sure Nick has a copy or two already...
    He does. Now we know why ASHI provides its members with so few membership benefits compared to these. You can't afford to!

    99% of our members who stay in the inspection business (don't sell, retire, die, or whatever) renew their InterNACHI membership year after year. We have the highest renewal rate of any trade association in any industry in the world.

    What's that say? Says more than my Department can about InterNACHI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    InterNACHI in other countries isn't the same entity as InterNACHI in the U.S. They are different entities.
    I see you've neglected to answer my previous question. If inachi in other countries are separate entities from you, how can you count them as members?

    Second question...you previously stated inachi took in 3.6 million dollars last year, but last years returns show 2.7. Why the big discrepancy?

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    I see you've neglected to answer my previous question. If inachi in other countries are separate entities from you, how can you count them as members?
    Because they are all InterNACHI members. They're just not all members of InterNACHI U.S. For U.S. and Canadian (English-speaking) membership numbers in North America, visit InterNACHI Membership Stats - InterNACHI That page is updated in live time and is accurate.

    Second question...you previously stated inachi took in 3.6 million dollars last year, but last years returns show 2.7. Why the big discrepancy?
    I posted the rough numbers for each year for the U.S. 4 posts ago. We're on target for 3.5 million in 2014 for the U.S. My post also contains links to the actual 990s that are exact, down to the dollar. Go with the links (not my estimates), as the links are accurate. Note that they are only U.S. returns though and don't include our many operations around the world.

    We believe that InterNACHI is the first trade association (of any industry) that successfully wrapped around the entire planet earth. A first for human beings. To quote my boss "We're running out of planets!" Maybe we should change our name to InterGalacticNACHI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    InterNACHI in other countries isn't the same entity as InterNACHI in the U.S. They are different entities.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Because they are all InterNACHI members. They're just not all members of InterNACHI U.S.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    I posted the rough numbers for each year for the U.S. 4 posts ago.... Note that they are only U.S. returns though and don't include our many operations around the world.
    Please post a link, mailing address or any other proof of another association outside of North America that goes by the name of InterNACHI that is or is not a separate entity of the InterNACHI based in Colorado. I don't believe any exist. I believe you may have a handful of members outside of North America, but not "many operations around the world".


    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    ASHI hides their 990's and won't post them publicly online because they lost most of their members to us. This year, for the first time, they even stopped publishing their membership numbers in their ASHI Reporter.
    ASHI doesn't hide their 990's. According to their filing their returns are "available upon request". Your filing states, "available on our website", which it wasn't until I emailed inachi and requested you to become compliant. In fact, someone using nicks email replied stating:
    after first declining to post current tax information.
    By the way, page 32 of the current ASHI Reporter gives current membership numbers.


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    fu·tile: incapable of producing any useful result: pointless, kind of like nachi

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    ASHI doesn't hide their 990's. According to their filing their returns are "available upon request"
    But you have to travel to their offices to view them according to Scott Patterson. And if you saw them, you'd understand why ASHI can't afford to give their members any of these. And that link how they lost the race to InterNACHI despite having a 20-year head start. LMAO!


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    Please post a link, mailing address or any other proof of another association outside of North America that goes by the name of InterNACHI that is or is not a separate entity of the InterNACHI based in Colorado. I don't believe any exist. I believe you may have a handful of members outside of North America, but not "many operations around the world".

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    You put your IR camera down first. If you don't know what I mean by that, you will tomorrow.

    Again, resistance is futile.

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    You put your IR camera down first. If you don't know what I mean by that, you will tomorrow.

    Again, resistance is futile.
    Humm, sounds like a threat.....

    What does this cryptic post mean?

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    Humm, sounds like a threat.....

    What does this cryptic post mean?
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    I'm lost....

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    I think it means I pissed off Nick by exposing inachi's lies and he is going to give my name to the company suing inspectors who use IR cameras. You know, the guys Nick paid off instead of fighting. That's ok, we've got tough anti-patent troll laws here in MN, so they'd have a hard fight with the Attorney Generals office. I'm sure good ol' Nick would get the raw end of the deal on that. MN Attorney General Lori Swanson Urges Congress To Take Aim At ?Patent Trolls?

    By the way, you never answered my previous inquiry:

    Please post a link, mailing address or any other proof of another association outside of North America that goes by the name of InterNACHI that is or is not a separate entity of the InterNACHI based in Colorado. I don't believe any exist. I believe you may have a handful of members outside of North America, but not "many operations around the world".

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    I just used this thing called google and found these links in a few seconds. But believe whatever you want.

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    Oh, and another link that shows InterNACHI is in foreign countries.

    CLICK HERE



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Oh, and another link that shows InterNACHI is in foreign countries.

    CLICK HERE

    Texas is a foreign country???????


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