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    Yet another one!

    They don't say where they are located.

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    The logo itself is reason enough for me to stay away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Feldmann View Post
    The logo itself is reason enough for me to stay away.
    Reason enough for all distinguished inspectors to stay away.

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    This will shed some insight::::
    Registrant Name: Russell Hensel
    Registrant Organization: Comprehensive Building Consultants
    Registrant Street: 13650 Fiddlesticks Blvd. Ste 202-399
    Registrant City: Fort Myers
    Registrant State/Province: Florida
    Registrant Postal Code: 33912
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Phone: +1.2394813977
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    Registrant Email: email@recallchek.com
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: Russell Hensel
    Admin Organization: Comprehensive Building Consultants
    Admin Street: 13650 Fiddlesticks Blvd. Ste 202-399
    Admin City: Fort Myers
    Admin State/Province: Florida
    Admin Postal Code: 33912
    Admin Country: United States
    Admin Phone: +1.2394813977
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    Admin Email: email@recallchek.com
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    Tech Name: Russell Hensel
    Tech Organization: Comprehensive Building Consultants
    Tech Street: 13650 Fiddlesticks Blvd. Ste 202-399
    Tech City: Fort Myers
    Tech State/Province: Florida
    Tech Postal Code: 33912
    Tech Country: United States
    Tech Phone: +1.2394813977
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    Tech Email: email@hotmail.com

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    With the Recallchek.Com email address, it looks like Nate has started his own home inspector association!

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    Ah ... Fiddlesticks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Wood View Post
    Are you kidding that this Company is on Fiddlesticks Blvd. 
    Yep, I noticed that too ... the person who laid out that subdivision must have had a great sense of humor ... either that or was under paid/over worked and was getting even with future residents.

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    How about forming the:

    "Disgruntled Inspector Society" ?

    First thing they would be disgruntled over would be the dues/application fee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    How about forming the:

    "Disgruntled Inspector Society" ?

    First thing they would be disgruntled over would be the dues/application fee.
    I would be happy to join your Disgruntled I'S, Garry.

    But happiness would disqualify me from the membership.
    I could pay you and you could give me ....nothing. Then I would qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kogel View Post
    I would be happy to join your Disgruntled I'S, Garry.

    But happiness would disqualify me from the membership.
    I could pay you and you could give me ....nothing. Then I would qualify.
    Exactly, If you weren't disgruntled coming in you would be after joining. Which would then qualify you for membership. A win win and I could keep the money but knowing I would have to pay tax on it which would keep me disgruntled maintaining my disgruntled status and membership.

    Maybe there could be a title offered such as "Certified Master Disgruntled Home Inspector". Only $25 extra and you get a picture being presented with a plack and trophy that you don't get to keep.

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    I notice that one of the requirements of membership is offering a home warranty. That in itself was a giveaway as to who was behind it.

    Anyone recognize the second dude in the video? He wasn't identified.

    I also noticed there was no "about us" or anything like that. So yeah, really trustworthy.

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    None of their requirements insure that the inspector will be distinguished or even competent. And as a for-profit "Society" I doubt that they will be too selective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Reinmiller View Post
    None of their requirements insure that the inspector will be distinguished or even competent. And as a for-profit "Society" I doubt that they will be too selective.
    There already is another 'profitable' association (I am not implying it is a 'society' as that could lead to implications of it being of a 'higher class') ... and we know how selective that one is ... or is 'non selective' a more accurate description ...

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    'Extinguished' Society of Inspectors.


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    Wasn't it Groucho Marx who said he wouldn't want to join any club who would allow him to be a member (or something like that)?

    Any inspector who meets their requirements has no reason to join their club ... and should be wise enough to realize that nothing good can come from joining.

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    Yes that was Groucho! Comic genius. One of my fav's. Watched A Night At The Opera the other night.

    One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know.
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    This falls into the category of "whatever". Most years, some client will ask me if I belong to ASHI, but I don't have overwhelming evidence that belonging to a professional organization even pays for itself. I belong for other reasons than financial benefit.

    Of course, this afternoon, I'll LMAO if the buyer asks me if I'm a "Distinguished Home Inspector".

    If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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    Distinguished to me, just doesn't ring. Sounds pompous in my opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Sounds pompous in my opinion.
    And the logo is not pompous?

    We can annoite someone as King Of Inspectors - the King Of Inspectors can then Knight top notch inspectors ... with all due pomp and circumstance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    And the logo is not pompous?

    We can annoite someone as King Of Inspectors - the King Of Inspectors can then Knight top notch inspectors ... with all due pomp and circumstance.
    Just look at the source of its creation and you will find the definition of Pompous!

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    You would think a true professional making a video to push his "I am better than you" group would at least shave before making the video. Pretty "UnDistinguished" if you ask me.


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    Steve, I thought the same thing, but I didn't want to sound too harsh.


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    Not as bad as the Clinton White House crew.


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    A value added label?


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    Gary, its not the White House anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    Not as bad as the Clinton White House crew.
    Which as not as bad as that goofy idiot "W" who wandered through and had no idea of what was going on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Gary, its not the White House anymore.
    It's still the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    Not as bad as the Clinton White House crew.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Which as not as bad as that goofy idiot "W" who wandered through and had no idea of what was going on.
    My my Jerry do we detect some deep-seated animosity???

    I was talking about George Snuffaluffagus and the rubble that he sported.


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    The D.I.S. is really just a group of successful inspectors that help each other get better. Most are multi inspector companies. Unlike other orgs all are fully vetted and usually not more than one can join from a given area. They are committed to bettering the profession and each other. They are the kind of guys that will help when ever needed. One of the requirements is to visit another inspection company and watch what they do. Provide feedback to the company and share ideas while having others do the same at your company, every year.

    I hope that helps


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    Looks like a group of inachi inspectors starting their own CMI group. Probably tired of paying Nick. But for some reason like giving money to the con man Nathan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Rowe View Post
    Looks like a group of inachi inspectors starting their own CMI group. Probably tired of paying Nick. But for some reason like giving money to the con man Nathan.
    That was certainly an inspiration, but Nathan gets no money from D.I.S. either.


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    'The Worlds Best Inspectors?' Okay, right, that should be the first clue. Privately held company? No member shares, voting rights, bylaws?


    Can I get one of these titles free like CMI?


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    The D.I.S. is really just a group of successful inspectors that help each other get better. Most are multi inspector companies. Unlike other orgs all are fully vetted and usually not more than one can join from a given area. They are committed to bettering the profession and each other. They are the kind of guys that will help when ever needed. One of the requirements is to visit another inspection company and watch what they do. Provide feedback to the company and share ideas while having others do the same at your company, every year.

    I hope that helps

    John,,
    What is your connection or status with this group, DIS ?

    Also is there a connection between your status as "VP of Nachi Management", CMI and the DIS ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    That was certainly an inspiration, but Nathan gets no money from D.I.S. either.
    Really? They have a requirement for their inspectors to provide a 90 or 100 day warranty...their registration email is a recallcheck email address...and Nathan doesn't get paid? I call bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    John,,
    What is your connection or status with this group, DIS ?

    Also is there a connection between your status as "VP of Nachi Management", CMI and the DIS ??

    I am a member of D.I.S. Actually a founding member, you will find the companies that founded it in the "logo" I was given the CMI designation. Nachi Management is a for profit company created to offer Florida Wind Mitigation, as a "Wind Certification Entity(required by the state)" It is actually the old "Nachi" as apposed to InterNachi. The requirements for the process required the company to be in business for many years, which it has been.

    If you must know I belong to other orgs and hold other positions. Let me know if you need and insight to any of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Rowe View Post
    Really? They have a requirement for their inspectors to provide a 90 or 100 day warranty...their registration email is a recallcheck email address...and Nathan doesn't get paid? I call bullshit.

    Call it all you want, it does not say how those items are to be provided. Nathan does host the site, for free I might add.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    'The Worlds Best Inspectors?' Okay, right, that should be the first clue. Privately held company? No member shares, voting rights, bylaws?


    Can I get one of these titles free like CMI?
    Yes, privately held, all members has a vote and a voice in all decisions. Being privately held we are not required to do things that public entities would be required to do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    I am a member of D.I.S. Actually a founding member, you will find the companies that founded it in the "logo" I was given the CMI designation. Nachi Management is a for profit company created to offer Florida Wind Mitigation, as a "Wind Certification Entity(required by the state)" It is actually the old "Nachi" as apposed to InterNachi. The requirements for the process required the company to be in business for many years, which it has been.

    If you must know I belong to other orgs and hold other positions. Let me know if you need and insight to any of those.

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    Call it all you want, it does not say how those items are to be provided. Nathan does host the site, for free I might add.

    A quick search on google for complaints about Residential Warranty Services: https://www.google.com/search?q=Resi...nc.+complaints

    Why on earth would a group calling themselves the Distinguished Inspector Society be affiliated with a huckster like Nathan? Why are you giving out your clients information for solicitation? The best inspectors would never give out their client's contact information to anybody. My guess is you're also selling their information to Nathan under the guise of his Alarm Lead program. You should be ashamed of yourselves if you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Rowe View Post
    A quick search on google for complaints about Residential Warranty Services: https://www.google.com/search?q=Resi...nc.+complaints

    Why on earth would a group calling themselves the Distinguished Inspector Society be affiliated with a huckster like Nathan? Why are you giving out your clients information for solicitation? The best inspectors would never give out their client's contact information to anybody. My guess is you're also selling their information to Nathan under the guise of his Alarm Lead program. You should be ashamed of yourselves if you are.
    If you knew me at all and understood what you are implying you wouldn't make such comments. Actually you should be ashamed for making accusations and implications. I thought you were a professional inspector. I hope you don't judge your clients the same way. If you would like to know exactly what we do, feel free to call me. It seems that some here are no better than those on the InterNachi message board.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    If you knew me at all and understood what you are implying you wouldn't make such comments. Actually you should be ashamed for making accusations and implications. I thought you were a professional inspector. I hope you don't judge your clients the same way. If you would like to know exactly what we do, feel free to call me. It seems that some here are no better than those on the InterNachi message board.
    Interesting. Trying to turn the focus onto me, but never denying my assumptions. No need to call you. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Rowe View Post
    Interesting. Trying to turn the focus onto me, but never denying my assumptions. No need to call you. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
    I offered to enlighten you but you refuse and mock. That is a real sign of professionalism and maturity. Say what you like about DIS and Nathan's services, you obviously have made you uninformed decision. My offer still stands, if you would like to call me or just remain another uninformed internet troll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    I offered to enlighten you but you refuse and mock. That is a real sign of professionalism and maturity. Say what you like about DIS and Nathan's services, you obviously have made you uninformed decision. My offer still stands, if you would like to call me or just remain another uninformed internet troll?
    Uninformed? I've read the DIS website and their requirement of providing a 90 or 100 day warranty. I see Nathan's company email address in the legal contact information for the website. I've read the complaints online about Nathan's warranty company. I know from speaking with the MN Department of Commerce that he isn't licensed to offer warranties in MN (but he still does). I know from reading Nathan's companies warranty requirements that the inspector is required to provide the contact information of their clients to Nathan. I know, according to Nathan's website, that inspectors receive "kick backs" if their clients purchase anything.

    If you have something to say that would make me change my mind, feel free to say them here in front of everyone. There's no need for me to call you. Put it in writing.

    Seriously, are you that hard up that you need to sell client's information for a few dollars? Do you really think that's ethical? I would think the DIS would have a requirement that the inspector would never provide their clients to anyone, ever, without a court order. I would also think the DIS would have a requirement that the inspector could never recommend a vendor to their client that provides "kick backs" to the inspector.

    In my opinion what you're doing is no better than an inspector who does "soft reports" in hopes that the agent will refer them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Rowe View Post
    Uninformed? I've read the DIS website and their requirement of providing a 90 or 100 day warranty. I see Nathan's company email address in the legal contact information for the website. I've read the complaints online about Nathan's warranty company. I know from speaking with the MN Department of Commerce that he isn't licensed to offer warranties in MN (but he still does). I know from reading Nathan's companies warranty requirements that the inspector is required to provide the contact information of their clients to Nathan. I know, according to Nathan's website, that inspectors receive "kick backs" if their clients purchase anything.

    If you have something to say that would make me change my mind, feel free to say them here in front of everyone. There's no need for me to call you. Put it in writing.

    Seriously, are you that hard up that you need to sell client's information for a few dollars? Do you really think that's ethical? I would think the DIS would have a requirement that the inspector would never provide their clients to anyone, ever, without a court order. I would also think the DIS would have a requirement that the inspector could never recommend a vendor to their client that provides "kick backs" to the inspector.

    In my opinion what you're doing is no better than an inspector who does "soft reports" in hopes that the agent will refer them again.

    There are reason why we don't publicly give out information on what we do or don't do. The same reasons why we only let one inspector in from an area. If you bothered to find the truth you would realize that we don't really care about the website. Our members are usually chosen by several direct conversations. It is only after those conversations that we allow someone to join. We are not looking for members, but we find them. Several have contacted us based on this thread. Not all will become members, but that is okay, our society is not for everyone. Those that do join enjoy the benefits of a professional helpful group. Those that don't search the internet for something else.

    Here is my direct cell, if you change your mind(three2one-six2six-eight1fivethree) Best of luck to you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    There are reason why we don't publicly give out information on what we do or don't do.
    The truth may hurt ... is the usual reason.

    The same reasons why we only let one inspector in from an area.
    In the "good ol' days" ... that was called being a "good ol' boys club".

    One inspector per area? DIS? Yeah, right.

    If you bothered to find the truth you would realize that we don't really care about the website.
    The best way to back up those words is to take the website down and let your "good ol' boys" pass around that DIS title and fancy logo themselves.

    ... our society is not for everyone.
    Yep, a good ol' boys club.

    Hey, Billy Bob ... you and Bubba watch what I is gonna do ... See this hole I jus' dug? I's gonna dig it deeper.

    John - it does not pass the 'say-it-with-a-straight-face' test or the smell test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    There are reason why we don't publicly give out information on what we do or don't do.
    So let me get this straight. You have a public website that doesn't give the truth. And when a founding member is asked, on a public forum for the truth, you come back with "...we don't publicly give out information on what we do or don't do."? WOW, just Wow. I'm sure it's not but it sounds like a front for some illegal operation or racial supremacy group. I normally don't see eye to eye with Mr. Peck on this forum but in this case I think he's right on the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Rowe View Post
    So let me get this straight. You have a public website that doesn't give the truth. And when a founding member is asked, on a public forum for the truth, you come back with "...we don't publicly give out information on what we do or don't do."? WOW, just Wow. I'm sure it's not but it sounds like a front for some illegal operation or racial supremacy group. I normally don't see eye to eye with Mr. Peck on this forum but in this case I think he's right on the money.
    You guys are funny. You all obviously believe only what you find on the internet. Reality is I will not tell you who I like as a vendor or as an inspector because it can easily misconstrued. And you get all this from an unfinished website. I'm done, you win. We cease and desist all activities and close our companies because we have no idea what we are doing. We are no help to any inspectors, our clients hate us, only the worst realtors like us because we do carbon copied paper reports with one Polaroid. Though you are ignorant to reality I wish you all the best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    And you get all this from an unfinished website.
    Professionals do not put "unfinished" anything out for the public.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    You guys are funny. You all obviously believe only what you find on the internet.
    Yes, information obtained from your website, your hosting information and your words (a claimed founding member) posted on a public forum.



    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    I'm done, you win. We cease and desist all activities and close our companies because we have no idea what we are doing. We are no help to any inspectors, our clients hate us, only the worst realtors like us because we do carbon copied paper reports with one Polaroid.
    Finally, a statement from the Distinguished Inspector's Society with a ring of truth.

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    It seems to me, many times whenever someone new has the courage to post, someone feels they just have to get in their face and challenge every word. Folks, if we constantly run off every new poster, there will not be many left to post. I know I have been just as bad as anybody. Lets all lighten up so that the new posters aren't scared to post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Cantrell View Post
    It seems to me, many times whenever someone new has the courage to post, someone feels they just have to get in their face and challenge every word. Folks, if we constantly run off every new poster, there will not be many left to post. I know I have been just as bad as anybody. Lets all lighten up so that the new posters aren't scared to post.
    Even sadder when I offer to discuss my side and the reason why I will not post such things I get mocked more. The maturity level is lacking. I am done responding to them.


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    Personally, I'm not interested in any for-profit society or association. It generally comes down to someone wanted to make money, not improve the profession.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    The maturity level is lacking. I am done responding to them.
    Funny, I was thinking the same thing about a friend of mine, (Robert S.) who was posting on another site and watching him get beat down by you guys when he was right. Not fun or nice is it?


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    Inspectors stuck in a boring routine look for ways to get other inspectors to pay them money.
    There's more. Send me money and I'll tell you more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Cantrell View Post
    It seems to me, many times whenever someone new has the courage to post, someone feels they just have to get in their face and challenge every word. Folks, if we constantly run off every new poster, there will not be many left to post. I know I have been just as bad as anybody. Lets all lighten up so that the new posters aren't scared to post.
    You're wrong Rick. I'd tell you why, but I can't make that information public. So why don't you call me and I'll explain it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffGHooper View Post
    Funny, I was thinking the same thing about a friend of mine, (Robert S.) who was posting on another site and watching him get beat down by you guys when he was right. Not fun or nice is it?
    I actually told him several times I agreed with what he was writing, several times. When he told everyone they should call someone to check his facts, I actually did. I only responded again when his facts were refuted by that person.


    I agree DIS is not for everyone but neither is: Nathan's products, Mike Crow, Ken Compton, 203K programs, most software programs and most organization(I could go on). People actually use all of those items/services everyday, because they see a value and use for them.


    Here is an example: if you are one of those inspectors that drives a Prius, I may think they are a total waste. You may not like my Ford Transit though. If you worked closely with Ford you might not want to publish your distaine for the Transit in favor of your Prius. It would be unprofessional and disrespectful. Again if you don't understand then you can call me.


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    I will not be calling anyone, least of all those guys. M told me the story too. To bad, you lost one of the good ones. Wrapping yourself in useless free or purchased feel good certificates is like wrapping yourself in toilet paper and gong to an outhouse convention. You will get something on you that you do not want on you. Those LOGO mills are embarrassing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffGHooper View Post
    I will not be calling anyone, least of all those guys. M told me the story too. To bad, you lost one of the good ones. Wrapping yourself in useless free or purchased feel good certificates is like wrapping yourself in toilet paper and gong to an outhouse convention. You will get something on you that you do not want on you. Those LOGO mills are embarrassing.

    Look at that we can agree on something. You know what else is embarrassing.... inspectors that hide behind a keyboard and will not find out facts before making judgements.

    If anyone thinks, I or any other DIS member would try to get you to join, then again you would be wrong. That is not how we operate.


    So, it is apparent that it is not just the n@chi, guys... there are inspectors everywhere that can't handle the truth, will not seek the truth, and hide behind their computers. You guys are no better than them.


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    58 posts and counting. Clearly, there is something that I'm missing about DIS and/or this thread to garner so much attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post

    So, it is apparent that it is not just the n@chi, guys... there are inspectors everywhere that can't handle the truth, will not seek the truth, and hide behind their computers. You guys are no better than them.
    Another spin doctor. We've been asking for "the truth" for several days, but you have refused to post anything publicly. A private phone call, where you can deny anything you've said and there's no record, is worthless. Sounds like you've been hanging out with Nathan way too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    Here is an example: if you are one of those inspectors that drives a Prius, I may think they are a total waste. You may not like my Ford Transit though. If you worked closely with Ford you might not want to publish your distaine for the Transit in favor of your Prius. It would be unprofessional and disrespectful. Again if you don't understand then you can call me.

    Do you work this way while doing inspections? If you work closely with a real estate agent do you not point out problems with the house to the buyer because it's unprofessional and disrespectful?

    Sorry, but my entire life revolves around honesty and integrity (not just the inspection side of it). If someone asks or pays for my opinion, they're going to get an honest answer. Whether it be with the vehicle I drive or the house I'm inspecting. It's sad that you can't live your life that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Rowe View Post
    Do you work this way while doing inspections? If you work closely with a real estate agent do you not point out problems with the house to the buyer because it's unprofessional and disrespectful?

    Sorry, but my entire life revolves around honesty and integrity (not just the inspection side of it). If someone asks or pays for my opinion, they're going to get an honest answer. Whether it be with the vehicle I drive or the house I'm inspecting. It's sad that you can't live your life that way.

    Here is the difference: Your opinion about DIS was not asked for. If you were honest and had integrity you would not disparage other including Nathan. Again, that is why I will not publicly answer some of your questions.


    In a nutshell: You don't understand something, so you mock it, you don't like something so you ridicule it. You are acting like a school yard bully. When you are given a chance to understand and comprehend another side you refuse. I guess we do have a very different opinion on honesty and integrity. On your truth, why would I just publicly type something, true or not if it only serves to hurt someone else? Do you go around telling people they are fat? I would hope not, people can see things for what they are. They also can find out the facts before speaking their mind and they can keep it to themselves if it doesn't serve a greater purpose.


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    I do call people fat, And I am fat. People need to learn to accept the truth and deal with it. That is how people learn they have a problem. This is not pink pony land with unicorns or an utopian society. Some chose to deal in reality, others fantasy. Reality is why you should never hold back in an inspection report for your client. Let them know just exactly what is wrong. Fantasy is when you candy coat it for the Seller and Agents. Yes I would Let Ford know, how else are they going to correct their problem. Be a leader, not a sheep. Let the cards fall where they will.

    It is not anyone's responsibility to believe you or take your word for anything John, so don't be arrogant. If you wish for others to believe you, provide the goods and answers. This ain't Nacho land. They are entitled to their opinions, and so far you have not given anyone reason to think otherwise.

    Keep beating around the bush and drawing it out, or answer the questions and put it to rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    Here is the difference: Your opinion about DIS was not asked for.
    The Title of this Thread IS Distinguished Inspector Society. That is where we voice our opinions on the topic!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffGHooper View Post
    I do call people fat, And I am fat. People need to learn to accept the truth and deal with it. That is how people learn they have a problem. This is not pink pony land with unicorns or an utopian society. Some chose to deal in reality, others fantasy. Reality is why you should never hold back in an inspection report for your client. Let them know just exactly what is wrong. Fantasy is when you candy coat it for the Seller and Agents. Yes I would Let Ford know, how else are they going to correct their problem. Be a leader, not a sheep. Let the cards fall where they will.

    It is not anyone's responsibility to believe you or take your word for anything John, so don't be arrogant. If you wish for others to believe you, provide the goods and answers. This ain't Nacho land. They are entitled to their opinions, and so far you have not given anyone reason to think otherwise.

    Keep beating around the bush and drawing it out, or answer the questions and put it to rest.

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    The Title of this Thread IS Distinguished Inspector Society. That is where we voice our opinions on the topic!

    Who said I needed anyone here to believe in me. I did not come here looking for members. I came to help you. In fact, if you would bother to listen, I would even encourage you to do something similar to what we have done. You are choosing to believe what you want to believe that has very little basis in facts. I have told you many times, feel free to call me and I will be more clear. If you can not make it to the phone, I'll be happy to call you just provide me the number. In society people generally try to be nice to one another including calling them names. Again I guess are just very different, I would not call someone fat(or skinny), because it serves no purpose. A house is another issue and is not personal. So when you do inspections, you point out ugly colors? It has no bearing on the condition of the house, just as someone's weight has little to do with someones worthiness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    I came to help you. In fact, if you would bother to listen, I would even encourage you to do something similar to what we have done.
    Let me see if I got this right now. You are addressing my quote, so I will assume you meant me. You want to help ME. Little old me. A guy with over 8,000 personally performed inspections spanning 37 years. A guy who is a four time President of a State Association. A guy who is qualified as an expert in every aspect of construction and inspections by the courts, both State and Federal. A guy who probably makes more money for one inspection than you make in a week. A guy who ran a multiple, (9), inspector firm at one time.

    With all due respect John, I have no intention of doing anything you have done. Why on earth would I want to change a very successful plan and business? You new guys, to me anything less than 20 years is new, think you have it all figured out. Most of us have been there, done that. But thank you for the offer. If you really want to help me, and others who asked, then answer the questions so we will know what this DIS thingy is all about. Otherwise, do not get mad when we see what looks like just another gimmick.

    If you do not have the answers, that's OK too!


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Shishilla View Post
    Who said I needed anyone here to believe in me. I did not come here looking for members. I came to help you. In fact, if you would bother to listen, I would even encourage you to do something similar to what we have done. You are choosing to believe what you want to believe that has very little basis in facts. I have told you many times, feel free to call me and I will be more clear. If you can not make it to the phone, I'll be happy to call you just provide me the number. In society people generally try to be nice to one another including calling them names. Again I guess are just very different, I would not call someone fat(or skinny), because it serves no purpose. A house is another issue and is not personal. So when you do inspections, you point out ugly colors? It has no bearing on the condition of the house, just as someone's weight has little to do with someones worthiness.

    Not worry everyone, I'm starting my own "distinguished" inspector group called Downton Abbey Lord of the Manor Noble Inspector Congregation. You only need 500,000 confirmed inspections (a note from your mom or pastor will do), a fancy logo, and $5,000.00 in money order made out to "nate"........


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffGHooper View Post
    Let me see if I got this right now. You are addressing my quote, so I will assume you meant me. You want to help ME. Little old me. A guy with over 8,000 personally performed inspections spanning 37 years. A guy who is a four time President of a State Association. A guy who is qualified as an expert in every aspect of construction and inspections by the courts, both State and Federal. A guy who probably makes more money for one inspection than you make in a week. A guy who ran a multiple, (9), inspector firm at one time.

    With all due respect John, I have no intention of doing anything you have done. Why on earth would I want to change a very successful plan and business? You new guys, to me anything less than 20 years is new, think you have it all figured out. Most of us have been there, done that. But thank you for the offer. If you really want to help me, and others who asked, then answer the questions so we will know what this DIS thingy is all about. Otherwise, do not get mad when we see what looks like just another gimmick.

    If you do not have the answers, that's OK too!

    You are correct I did quote the wrong person. Your reputation does proceed you and so far have have nothing but respect for you. I am not asking anyone to change, I am not looking for anyone to join. Apparently, you did not follow the whole thread, I will not answer certain questions this or any other message board. If you want(or anyone else) wants those answers then you will have to call. FYI, I am not mad, I am actually amused by people that call themselves professionals but jump to conclusions when the answers they seek are a phone call away.

    If you gentlemen knew anything about me you would realize how funny this is.

    If you don't want to talk to me call Nathan and ask him about me. LOL


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    The D.I.S. is really just a group of successful inspectors that help each other get better. Most are multi inspector companies. Unlike other orgs all are fully vetted and usually not more than one can join from a given area. They are committed to bettering the profession and each other. They are the kind of guys that will help when ever needed. One of the requirements is to visit another inspection company and watch what they do. Provide feedback to the company and share ideas while having others do the same at your company, every year.

    I hope that helps
    I've been trying to back off from this thread, but ... it is getting interesting now, so ... let's go back to the future and see what we were told.

    From the above:
    - "The D.I.S. is really just a group of successful inspectors that help each other get better. Most are multi inspector companies."
    - - Okay, so the DIS is ONLY FOR the owner of the multi inspector company ... but ALL inspectors in the company reap the benefits of DIS?
    - - That does not pass the smell test.

    - "Unlike other orgs all are fully vetted and usually not more than one can join from a given area."
    - - Not more than one from a given area? Yet you said most are multi inspector companies? Something does not compute there.
    - - Let's say there are, as in the case of South Florida NOW, AND WERE before I and some others retired, probably 3-4, maybe even 5, inspectors who have distinguished themselves in their inspections and the area ... yet ONLY ONE would be allowed to wear that fancy coat-of-arms logo? Really?
    - - That does not pass the smell test either.

    - "They are committed to bettering the profession and each other. They are the kind of guys that will help when ever needed."
    - - Like I said, there are NOW, AND WERE, 3-4, maybe 5-6 inspectors who do that in South Florida.
    - - In fact, there were, and I suspect still are, a group of about 20 inspectors in South Florida who helped each other out.
    - - That does not take a "distinguished inspector" to do that.

    - "One of the requirements is to visit another inspection company and watch what they do. Provide feedback to the company and share ideas while having others do the same at your company, every year."
    - - You mean like the participants of this board do for each other (except the visiting part, and I suspect that many inspectors have visited other inspectors who are in their area.
    - - Again, if that is be a "distinguished inspector", then probably at least 75% of the inspectors are "distinguished inspectors" ... which negates the title and coat-of-arms logo into nothing but representing "typical" ... as in that is what the "typical inspector" does every day.

    - - Overall score: Does not pass the smell test or the say-it-with-a-straight-face test ... nothing more than any "typical inspector" does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    I've been trying to back off from this thread, but ... it is getting interesting now, so ... let's go back to the future and see what we were told.

    From the above:
    - "The D.I.S. is really just a group of successful inspectors that help each other get better. Most are multi inspector companies."
    - - Okay, so the DIS is ONLY FOR the owner of the multi inspector company ... but ALL inspectors in the company reap the benefits of DIS?
    - - That does not pass the smell test.

    - "Unlike other orgs all are fully vetted and usually not more than one can join from a given area."
    - - Not more than one from a given area? Yet you said most are multi inspector companies? Something does not compute there.
    - - Let's say there are, as in the case of South Florida NOW, AND WERE before I and some others retired, probably 3-4, maybe even 5, inspectors who have distinguished themselves in their inspections and the area ... yet ONLY ONE would be allowed to wear that fancy coat-of-arms logo? Really?
    - - That does not pass the smell test either.

    - "They are committed to bettering the profession and each other. They are the kind of guys that will help when ever needed."
    - - Like I said, there are NOW, AND WERE, 3-4, maybe 5-6 inspectors who do that in South Florida.
    - - In fact, there were, and I suspect still are, a group of about 20 inspectors in South Florida who helped each other out.
    - - That does not take a "distinguished inspector" to do that.

    - "One of the requirements is to visit another inspection company and watch what they do. Provide feedback to the company and share ideas while having others do the same at your company, every year."
    - - You mean like the participants of this board do for each other (except the visiting part, and I suspect that many inspectors have visited other inspectors who are in their area.
    - - Again, if that is be a "distinguished inspector", then probably at least 75% of the inspectors are "distinguished inspectors" ... which negates the title and coat-of-arms logo into nothing but representing "typical" ... as in that is what the "typical inspector" does every day.

    - - Overall score: Does not pass the smell test or the say-it-with-a-straight-face test ... nothing more than any "typical inspector" does.



    All inspectors in the team do benefit(training). The owner may also need help with not just inspections but running a business and HR.

    Yes we do not show everyone what we do, not all can join, nor would we want them. You may have noticed, that not all would want to join either.

    We really haven't promoted the "logo" so, it wouldn't make much sense to use it, much.

    You suspect many have visited other inspectors, but how many do it year after year? We do, we think it is better than sitting in a class.

    I really don't think the "typical inspector" shows his/her competition how they do everything.

    I hope that answered your questions. btw, if you get your head out of your ass it might smell better(sorry I couldn't resist on that one).

    I was just asked to go to out of state to discuss the "team" approach with a group from other areas of the country. Unfortunately I will not be able to visit. Some in that group have followed me(and others) and realize the value of field feedback. If you don't see it, its ok, just keep doing what you are doing, as long as it is working for you. If it isn't or you think something could be improved I suggest that you start by talking with another trusted inspector.


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    I too am a founding member of the D.I.S. The reason for its inception was to provide people of with the same vision and goal to get together and share ideas, to mentor each other and to mentor new inspectors who want to get into the profession.

    After seeing what Mike Crow does, which is sell other inspectors ideas as his own and get everyone involved at a very high price, we figured, why pay him? Why not get a group together and perform this ourselves?

    So we did.

    You don't want a privately held company...so we should be a not for profit company? So we have to let every idiot into the organization? That is the answer? We didn't think so. So several of us got to talking and decided to start our own society and for it to be private so we can control who enters. If you think that is WRONG and we should just let anyone in, they I guess you don't understand our thought process.

    Like it, leave it..whatever you choose to do is fine with me. I don't knock your group, or people down just for the hell of it. I could care less what you do.

    If you feel this organization is a threat, then you have issues. If you think it's sham, then think its sham. But your really don't know anything about it.

    The recall check thing...yes, I decided to pay for the hosting and the filtering of emails. I am sorry I do run a business and didn't have time to make a website, to filter all the emails, and keep up with much of the stuff. So, I had a company do that? Is that wrong?

    Did it say ANYWHERE that you have to use Nathans warranties? I didn't see that anywhere. We said a warranty, I could care less where they are from.

    We also want to build a network of national people so that we can refer each other without wondering the caliber they are. I live in SW Florida and we get a ton of people moving up north and they ask for referrals. I can go to a list of inspectors and feel very confident in their abilities to perform well.

    Man, get over it....if its not for you....then its not for you. Not a single person here was invited, an email sent, nothing...So you scoured the internet and came across us, thanks.

    Anything else you would like to know?


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