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    Default Getting Spammed By Internachi & Nick Gromicko

    In have gotten 10 e-mails today alone from Nick Gromicko and two other internachi spammers inviting me to some meeting in PA. Is anybody else getting this crap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Ostrowski View Post
    In have gotten 10 e-mails today alone from Nick Gromicko and two other internachi spammers inviting me to some meeting in PA. Is anybody else getting this crap?
    I am sure it is not InterNACHI singling you out.
    Email Nick Gromicko at fastreply@internachi.org
    He handles all replies personally.

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    Default Re: Getting Spammed By Internachi & Nick Gromicko

    Maybe Lisa wants to see you. A clandestine meeting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Sorrells View Post
    Maybe Lisa wants to see you. A clandestine meeting.
    Never know, spring is in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    Never know, spring is in the air.
    I could be wrong and it's really Nic...


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    Did you notice the ads on this page? A CMI ad below the first post and another at the bottom of the page.

    I thought the banner question was amusing - "Do you have what it takes to become a Certified Master Inspector?"
    Experienced.
    All CMIs have completed at least 1,000 fee-paid inspections and/or hours of training and education combined

    Established.
    All CMIs have been in the inspection business for at least three years prior to becoming Board-Certified

    ... so I have to ask, how can one be in business for at least three years, and have done 1000 inspections?

    Not everyone can become a Certified Master Inspector®.
    Hiring a CMI means hiring the best.

    That's correct, those that can't pay the fee get it for free. Free I tell ya.. free!

    Professional.
    All CMIs abide by the inspection industry's toughest Code of Ethics.
    Yup that's correct. Not!


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    I think the moral of the story is, marketing and developing a successful business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    I think the moral of the story is, marketing and developing a successful business.
    It's "marketing" - period.

    "Developing a successful business" - your mileage can vary!

    We don't or rarely ever hear about the 100's that have not made it......


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    Marketing by deceitful practices. Priceless is more like it.


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    Claude and Raymond.
    Can you show me a successful home inspection businessman providing his competition marketing and business development skills?

    Also, remember that 80 % of all businesses fail or are failing within 18 months.

    If you have anything new to say I will be waiting patiently.
    Other than that, sour grapes.



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    Can you show me a successful home inspection businessman providing his companion marketing and business development skills?
    Yup. My business - Raymond Wand Home Inspection Service. No bull, no fancy titles, no ego's, no fluff, the straight goods, no hype and no online certifications required nor needed. No advertising to Realtors. And I know I am not the best. I would never be so presumptuous to make such an exaggerated claim. But then again, I guess that comes with being secure, and ethical. No need to be stroked due to insecurities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Yup. My business - Raymond Wand Home Inspection Service. No bull, no fancy titles, no ego's, no fluff, the straight goods, no hype and no online certifications required nor needed. No advertising to Realtors. And I know I am not the best. I would never be so presumptuous to make such an exaggerated claim. But then again, I guess that comes with being secure, and ethical. No need to be stroked due to insecurities.
    As long as it works for you.
    Nothing wrong with that.

    The OP posted he thought he was being spammed. I redirected him to email Nick Gromicko personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Did you notice the ads on this page? A CMI ad below the first post and another at the bottom of the page.

    I thought the banner question was amusing - "Do you have what it takes to become a Certified Master Inspector?"
    Experienced.
    All CMIs have completed at least 1,000 fee-paid inspections and/or hours of training and education combined

    Established.
    All CMIs have been in the inspection business for at least three years prior to becoming Board-Certified

    ... so I have to ask, how can one be in business for at least three years, and have done 1000 inspections?

    Not everyone can become a Certified Master Inspector®.
    Hiring a CMI means hiring the best.

    That's correct, those that can't pay the fee get it for free. Free I tell ya.. free!

    Professional.
    All CMIs abide by the inspection industry's toughest Code of Ethics.
    Yup that's correct. Not!
    Thank God you are not pretentious in your business marketing.

    As for the CMI designation.
    You are free to ask the CMI board or the Albertian government.
    More to the point, ask Vern Mitchinson about how he and 13 InterNACHI chapter inspectors saved all home inspection businesses from the likes of, "save me from the competition."

    Heard it all before Ray as have you.
    It is a government accepted designation.
    Sour grapes.

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    Robert,

    I've been gritting my teeth and staying out of this, but ...

    "CMI" started out as ... and still most likely is ... marketing - pure marketing.

    "CMI was 'given away' at first to get it out to the members ' there was nothing in place to even attempt to make it legitimate or 'representing the best of the best' ... heck, it didn't even represent 'the good' ... 'the bad' and ' the ugly' - maybe.

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    I don't give a crappola about Alberta, nor whether they accepted CMI, nor about Vern.
    The reason Alberta accepted the designation is because it comes down to the lowest common denominator. They cannot discriminate. Any other association with dubious credentialing such as CanNachi got accepted too. All of which have lower standards than CAHPI or NHICC. And that is a fact you refuse to acknowledge.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with 'save me from my competition"!

    Its not sour grapes, and has nothing to do with grapes, it's what is what. If you wish to continue to suggest its saving me, Claude or anyone else from their competition keep going because obviously you have convinced yourself, so much so you now believe it lock stock and barrel.

    You will simply have to do better in convincing me and others that your reasoning is sound, which given your propensity in refusing to compare apples to apples is not a selling feature of your arguement.

    One has to look no further than the lack of professionalism and/or the abandonment of the COE for CMI's and those who claim they are the best then to look at this weeks carrying on by so called CMI's and executives of another questionable association here in Ontario. What a disgrace, and you sit here and condone CMI. Boy that is rich!

    Yes save the public from idiots that should be your mantra.

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    Roberts comment - "Also, promoting the NHICC to the CSA offered no help to the inspectors did it?
    Bloody save me from my competitor all over again.
    Gees Louise, give me a break."

    No break required or offered.....I will state it again for the umpteenth time - "The NHICC never approached or marketed to the CSA." We were contacted by them. Seems pretty clear that they believed in the merits of the "National Certification Program.

    So wherever you got that idea is not factual or the reality of what transpired.

    What CSA did since then, was about creating a "common home inspection standard" for the provincial government entities that felt the need to complete such a task. So on that note you can either support or oppose what resulted, because that again was a project by numerous "stakeholders".

    Perhaps if you read further into the NHICC as a certification entity and not as many believe as a home inspection association you may also see the differences in it's mandate. We accept and review home inspectors from many different associations, as well as those nonaffiliated, primarily to see if they meet a "recognized national certification standard".


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    Claude,

    Thank you!

    I think the reason as I already explained why the government will not accept one SOP over that of another whether the body is an association or entity claiming it's an association or such as the NHICC is because they could not be seen to favour one entity over that of another. Hence the CSA was called to the task. (neutrality).


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    Jerry,

    It isn't even good marketing, given the questionality of its authenticity. And one can still get if for free. The reason being the owner is not accountable to anyone, and that includes the public. One big con being foist on the public because holders of the designation are lazy, and they depend on someone else to make them look good, because they don't have the ability themselves. So caught up on fancy logos, fancy titles.

    This is exactly one of the major reasons the Ontario government is licencing, and much of the applause should go to Nachi and its affiliates for pushing the governments agenda.

    Can you blame the government?


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    Here is yet another example of deceitful marketing.

    Are home inspectors regulated in Ontario?

    Not yet. However, the government is taking strides towards putting regulations in place. Until that happens anyone can call themselves a home inspector. Your 4Sight Home Inspectors are certified by a national, accredited institution, attend a minimum number of hours each year for continuing education and have 40 years combined industry experience. Don’t take a risk with an uncertified home inspector. 4Sight offers the MOST comprehensive and detailed home inspection with the best available tools and knowledge available.
    I didn't see ASHI listed as an accredited institution, all I see on the website are Nachi and CMI logos - these are not accredited institutions!

    Where do people like this get off, saying things that are just not true?

    Who polices it? Well we know its not CMI or Nachi!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    So caught up on fancy logos, fancy titles.
    There was another fancy schmancy logo some other person 'offered' to 'super duper inspectors' recently ... someone posted it on this board a while ago but I don't remember what the title was ... but it sure was a super duper fancy schmancy title and logo.

    It's good to have Robert posting on this board, but ... the kool aid he's been given has not worn off yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Lawrenson View Post
    Roberts comment - "Also, promoting the NHICC to the CSA offered no help to the inspectors did it?
    Bloody save me from my competitor all over again.
    Gees Louise, give me a break."
    No break required or offered.....I will state it again for the umpteenth time - "The NHICC never approached or marketed to the CSA." We were contacted by them. Seems pretty clear that they believed in the merits of the "National Certification Program.

    So wherever you got that idea is not factual or the reality of what transpired.
    I heard this from a discussion we had on NACHI'S MB.
    At the end Claude, you concluded a prominent member had discussions with the CSA that did not solidify.
    Rather vague and yes I may have read something into it.

    I will ask Roy Cooke to dredge up the thread.
    Hopefully, then I can make sense of it all because a prominent member mentioned the CSA was about to promote a National Inspection Standard long before the subject of an" CSA A700 standard" appeared on the horizon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Lawrenson View Post
    What CSA did since then, was about creating a "common home inspection standard" for the provincial government entities that felt the need to complete such a task. So on that note you can either support or oppose what resulted, because that again was a project by numerous "stakeholders".
    It's the stakeholders that worry me.
    2 provinces embroiled in their own licensing errors using tax payers money so the CSA can earn more not for profit money and pass on their liability to a not for profit group.
    Yep. That sums it up for me.

    Where the taxpaying shareholders advised? Hmmm.
    Do all taxpayers own homes?
    Do 2 provinces talk for the rest of Canada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Lawrenson View Post
    Perhaps if you read further into the NHICC as a certification entity and not as many believe as a home inspection association you may also see the differences in it's mandate. We accept and review home inspectors from many different associations, as well as those nonaffiliated, primarily to see if they meet a "recognized national certification standard".
    I think the National is great contribution adding diversity to the home inspection industry.
    I have said that on several occasions.
    I also said a marketing shift would be beneficial.
    Did you know Nick Gromicko and Nathan Thornberry are holding a marketing tour?

    Claude, please excuse me if I am mistaken, then I stand corrected and apologize.
    Some 32 home inspection association are offered in NorthAmerica if I am not mistaken.
    Lots of choice in the free market place.
    Best of luck with your endeavors as always.

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    That's the one: http://distinguishedinspectorsociety.com/

    It says ' woo-woo, I be the bestest there is ' and ' you can tell by the fancy schmancy title and logo '

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    More like 'extinguished'.


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    Jeffrey, Raymond, Claude, and other contributing members.
    I admire the brilliance and devotion you all contribute to the home inspection industry but exposing personal wedge issues such as this are truly unprofessional.
    What's worse, you are singling out a home inspector and his business.
    That is is totally undignified.
    I hope you remove the posts.
    Didn't your mothers bring you up knowing right from wrong?

    That being said. So you are against InterNACHI marketing are you.
    I have been marketed to by many home inspection associations, and their boards of directors, on Nick Gromicko's InterNACHI MB.
    Remember, Nick allows anyone on the open MB. Contributing the success of this once cottage industry has come from many an InterNACHI certified inspector & CMI's.

    Now Nick is doing it again by helping all home inspectors where industry giants failed.
    Homesafe patent troll is now being litigated by whom?

    I watched as InterNACHI members, as well as thermographers, reached even lower lows with undocumented scuttle and no one apologised after Nick turned the table waiting for the right moment.
    Nick is a successful businessman and has proved his worth ten times over yet save me from my competitor still remains.

    Practice proverbs 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another.
    Blame yourselves for industry failures.
    Too bad.
    So sad.

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    ROBERT YOUNG in my opinion is the new know it all on this forum--in this thread alone he has apoligizes what 8 times for being wrong. he is relpying day and night on almost every thread--when does he do inspections. the new MR WOOD --or maybe the same MR WOOD USING AND ALIAS


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    It takes a man to apologise and know when he's wrong Mr. VAN FLEET.
    If that description fits a know it all than I surely am confused.
    Best regards.
    Good luck with all your all your endeavors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHARLIE VAN FLEET View Post
    He is relpying day and night on almost every thread--when does he do inspections.
    I am replying to almost every thread?
    Seems like others are as well.

    Where am I admitting I am right all the time Mr. VAN FLEET.

    As for when do I find the time to inspect homes?
    7 this week, only one per day. and a new company employee doing 2.
    All booked for next week.

    I wake up at 4 am and go to bed after 12am.
    I am trying to earn a living and grow my humble company.

    I belong to several associations as well as IHINA.

    Opps, there I go again. Yikes!!!
    I guess I deserve "a good bums rush" off of InspectionNews for defending one of my associations and one of its founders.

    You sure you are not one of those, well you know, special INACHI MB posters?
    If so, I hear there is a clinic opening soon, but so far its only a rumor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    Opps, there I go again. Yes, I guess I deserve a good bums rush of InspectionNews along with some rim shots for defending my association and it's founder.
    Robert,

    We try ... not always successful, but we try ... we try to keep it professional here.

    All of your boasting about some other association (which in and of itself is quite negative) and its message board (which seems to represent negativity at it worst, and does so intentionally it seems) does nothing but lower expectations from you.

    It is better to provide good information and not keep trying to convince everyone else that the kool aid is tasty and good because you like it - Nicky if excellent at marketing, that is what he does, that is what CMI is for ... now suck it up and be a good poster when here.

    The references to KW and his attitude was well earned by him, he seemed to go out of his way to be that way - good to have you here ... provided you do not create the same mess he did (KW is no longer here because he got so out of hand - YOU ... HAVE NOT ... been that way ... which is good ... but you have a tendency to - what is that old saying: 'he doth protest too much, me thinks').

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Robert,

    We try ... not always successful, but we try ... we try to keep it professional here.

    All of your boasting about some other association (which in and of itself is quite negative) and its message board (which seems to represent negativity at it worst, and does so intentionally it seems) does nothing but lower expectations from you.

    It is better to provide good information and not keep trying to convince everyone else that the kool aid is tasty and good because you like it - Nicky if excellent at marketing, that is what he does, that is what CMI is for ... now suck it up and be a good poster when here.

    The references to KW and his attitude was well earned by him, he seemed to go out of his way to be that way - good to have you here ... provided you do not create the same mess he did (KW is no longer here because he got so out of hand - YOU ... HAVE NOT ... been that way ... which is good ... but you have a tendency to - what is that old saying: 'he doth protest too much, me thinks').
    Jerry, one must give credit where credit is due.

    I did not bring up the CMI but will certainly defend it.
    Shame on you all for no matter how insignificant it may mean to you, to others it may mean allot and carry them on a path of enlightenment.
    I learned that from my leader.

    Raymond, you instigated and orchestrated and negative thread.
    I thought your mother brought you up knowing right from wrong.
    To openly post a man's business URL, his livelihood, because you do not like his marketing is shameful. Please tell Mr. VAN FLEET where you find the time to post. I did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Robert,
    The references to KW and his attitude was well earned by him, he seemed to go out of his way to be that way - good to have you here ... provided you do not create the same mess he did (KW is no longer here because he got so out of hand - YOU ... HAVE NOT ... been that way ... which is good ... but you have a tendency to - what is that old saying: 'he doth protest too much, me thinks').
    Jerry, I can push and shove with the best of them and yes, we will leave associations out of this MB but I have one thing more to say.

    Now I would appreciate any reference to KW left out of the MB please or I will start a "well document" complaint aimed at one particular member and trust me, "I will aim it well."

    Mr. Wand, you talk about ethics and consumer protection.
    Mr. Wood thought the world of you.
    You knew that.
    You feed him knowingly and wrongly instead of teaching and mentoring right from wrong.

    You complain about marketing among one of the many, while leading a human being that looked up to you by the noise and mock his name afterward.
    A son of Simon Iscariot did the same to my leader.

    You broke your most sacred COE Mr. Wand.

    Now I will say no more unless I have to.
    Best regards members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    Jerry, one must give credit where credit is due.

    I did not bring up the CMI but will certainly defend it.
    Shame on you all for no matter how insignificant it may mean to you, to others it may mean allot and carry them on a path of enlightenment.
    I learned that from my leader.
    If you learned from your leader, I assume you mean you-know-who. Not the best leader to be looking up to for example of ethics, but that's my opinion.

    Raymond, you instigated and orchestrated and negative thread.
    No I just replied to Nick O., and pointed out the advertisements that appeared on the forum. Nick O. said he got spammed and we are being spammed by advertisements. I realize they help pay for this forum, but I don't like seeing advertisements from a body that treats people in the manner they do, and solely written and produced as marketing by a private, non credentialed body. I make no apologies if you cannot digest this fact.
    I thought your mother brought you up knowing right from wrong.
    Yup she did and that's why I pointed out the discrepancies of the advertising.

    To openly post a man's business URL, his livelihood, because you do not like his marketing is shameful. Please tell Mr. VAN FLEET where you find the time to post. I did!
    I didn't post anyones URL. I posted a name of a company because the ad is misleading. Further the person posting is in breach of their prescribed COE since they advertise they are CMI's. The info is for anyone to see. Further I would have filed a complaint but WE all know that is a futile excercise because of the smoke and mirrors and marketing which is meaningless to begin with and for show only. Round and round we go.

    From the COE of CMI
    - The Certified Master Inspector® will not engage in any practices that could be damaging to the public or that could bring discredit to the home inspection industry.
    - The Certified Master Inspector® shall be fair, honest, impartial, and act in good faith in dealing with the public.
    - The Certified Master Inspector® shall be truthful regarding his/her services and qualifications.
    - The Certified Master Inspector® will not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to fellow Certified Master Inspectors®.

    I guess misleading titles, false advertising is NOT under the purview of the high standards of CMI. And as demonstrated repeatedly there is no due process in anything your leader and his cohorts do, its been proven repeatedly and its not my fault. If you wish to ignore the obvious, don't shoot the messenger. The public deserves better and no one can fault me for that.

    And to correct a misnomer. I never dissed Mr. Woods, I did stick up for him because of the manner in which he was treated by a Kangaroo court. The same I have done for others because no one deserves to be treated in a manner like that with no chance of rebuttal. The whole process was a travesty and farce. While Mr. Woods did not present himself here with decorum, that is another matter of which I stayed out of.

    Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    If you learned from your leader, .
    I do not think you have.
    My leader, Our father, would not tolerate this Raymond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    I do not think you have.
    My leader, Our father, would not tolerate this Raymond.
    So ... you follow EVERYTHING said in the name of that leaders ... as gospel? Not to be altered, changed with the times, or other such trivial matters?

    You really don't want to get into that stuff here or with me as those words you apparently take as gospel were/are believed to have been spoken for, on behalf of, or even by, your leader contain requirements for some pretty violent goings on ... and if you don't believe those words as gospel ... well, that makes you no different that other religions or non-believers - like I said ... you really don't want to go there on this board or with me.

    This board is not to huff and puff your chest out and imply - yes, imply - that you know what you are talking about because 'he's got your back'.

    This is a supposed to be a professional board - KW started degrading it with his "happy dance" stuff, you started with your "Homey" stuff (thankfully, you have stopped that) and continue with your "King mate" stuff; and (if you have been paying attention) this is not a religious board (otherwise all religions would need to be allowed to preach to everyone else) .. so ... Robert, show us your professionalism for THIS profession.

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    Robert, why not just give it a rest. Regretfully to often you seem to revert to a Kevin Wood manor of argument and logic. The KW or HG notation does have a demonstrative reference and meaning to many within this forum like it or not. Just a fact. As to the rest of the blather, again, give it a rest. PLEASE.....and hopefully Thank You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    ......................

    Ready to start over and be professional here? Welcome to Brian's InspectionNews board.

    ....I will Second that Motion. Would some one please call for the vote on ending discussion so we can move to a vote to return to normal forum function.


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    ....I will Second that Motion. Would some one please call for the vote on ending discussion so we can move to a vote to return to normal forum function.
    So moved.

    Do we have second?

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    I move the previous question.


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    We are waiting for a second by Robert ...

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    I think this discussion has run its course. Time to move on.


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    I take that as a vote for closure. With an unanimous vote on the previous question we end.

    Sorry I didn't hear the dissenting (na) vote when it was called. Thanks Jerry, for catching it. Vote counting is important. No hanging chads allowed here. Tis the season again

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    I think this discussion has run its course. Time to move on.
    Ha ha..I visit for the first time in a long time and see you same small group of guys still moaning and cursing NACHI and Nick.Any of you actually Inspect for a living ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    I think this discussion has run its course. Time to move on.
    Ha ha..I visit for the first time in a long time and see you same small group of guys still moaning and cursing NACHI and Nick.Any of you actually Inspect for a living ?

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    Sorry, I second the motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBERT YOUNG View Post
    Sorry, I second the motion.
    The motion has been seconded.

    Call for a vote ...all in favor say 'aye' ... all opposed say 'nay'.

    One 'nay' was heard and voiced by Bob Elliott

    Motion passes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    The motion has been seconded.

    Call for a vote ...all in favor say 'aye' ... all opposed say 'nay'.

    One 'nay' was heard and voiced by Bob Elliott

    Motion passes.
    Nay Nay Nay Nay and a Aye Aye Aye then Goodbye .Nah nah hey hey and .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Elliott View Post
    Nay Nay Nay Nay and a Aye Aye Aye then Goodbye .Nah nah hey hey and .......
    Fitting response from a heavy kool-aid drinker.

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    Jerry

    This is the typical response one would expect from a member of a marketing company.

    The question remains though, is Nick still being spammed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Ostrowski View Post
    In have gotten 10 e-mails today alone from Nick Gromicko and two other internachi spammers inviting me to some meeting in PA. Is anybody else getting this crap?
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    JThe question remains though, is Nick still being spammed?
    Probably ... ... until the meeting is actually held ... then he will likely get spammed with news about the results of the meeting ...

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    Ray Wand asks
    ... so I have to ask, how can one be in business for at least three years, and have done 1000 inspections?

    I would think that most home inspectors who have done 1,000 inspections have been in business for at least three years. No?

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    Ya, and I bet they don't do 300 inspections per year either. Further business failures in the first three years are quite high.


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    How much tenderizing does it take?

    Now we must all have a moment to reflect on Lisa's post/comment, considering it is within an area that is funded by her employer's money and the only forum they inhabit outside their own.

    Nothing about the original post but a yapping about a criteria for a marketing emblem. Should have left enough well alone. 3 years or more and at least 1,000 inspections as qualifying. What ever the criteria it is about marketing per their own manta; it's all about marketing and everything else is secondary.

    But nothing about what was considered by the OP as nuisance and spam marketing to him. But what else could be added other than they are marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing, marketing. marketing.

    Kinda like politics, never address the original issue but redirect to something else. The sidestep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6STjaonPEWw


    Finally, if you can not look at all of this in a light heart you are really stressing yourself out for meaningful purpose.


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    Ray Wand writes
    Ya, and I bet they don't do 300 inspections per year either. Further business failures in the first three years are quite high.
    Doing 300 inspections per year is not a requirement to be awarded the Certified Master Inspector professional designation. The failure rate of businesses in the first three years is not a factor used to award the Certified Master Inspector professional designation.

    See Certified Master Inspector®

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    300 is the breakdown per year to conduct the required number or combined with education in three years.

    Also tell us about how the code of ethics are enforced? What is the complaint process in order for a disgruntled client to make a complaint? (3. agree to abide by the inspection industry’s toughest Code of Ethics From what I read on Nachi there are several CMI's who are in breach of the COE.
    Ya that's a tough alright, all window dressing. How does Joe public launch a complaint? So few details, light on details, little value and strictly a marketing certificate. A board made up of NG buddies.

    And explain to me and for the benefit of others - 5. submit the application and the one-time fee (no annual dues, ever). One time fee? The fee is waived, not everyone has paid. Professional titles are earned, not given away.

    How many have been turned down?

    It doesn't appear the COE exam is of any importance given the rampant conduct of CMI's on the Nachi forum. More window dressing.

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    I am sure if you READ the CMI requirements unbiased, you will understand what the requirements are instead of confusing people with you undermining matra.

    Requirements; All CMIs have completed at least 1,000 fee-paid inspections and/or hours of training and education combined.
    Now to go further, & to insure this nonsense stops, I have completed 1000's of inspections on components in my lifetime, as well as other contractors and trades persons.

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    I am sure if you READ the CMI requirements unbiased, you will understand what the requirements are instead of confusing people with you undermining matra.
    I don't have to undermine anything. Its all there for the public to see for themselves, and question. This demonstrates openly that there is no discipline with CMI or much of anything else comparable to a professional association because its all based on marketing.


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    ASHI COE
    1. Inspectors shall avoid conflicts of interest or activities that compromise, or appear to compromise, professional independence, objectivity, or inspection integrity.
    And your point is?


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    And your point is?
    Raymond, I am not here looking to start anything.

    If you do not like the designation too bad.
    Put this to rest and move on as Jerry requested.
    Seems he has patience.

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    Jerry said to move on?


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    I think this discussion has run its course. Time to move on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Jerry said to move on?
    Raymond,

    YOU said to move on ...

    I and others made a motion, seconded it, voted on it, one 'nay" vote, motion to close this passed.

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    Okay so I lied!


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    Jerry

    This is the typical response one would expect from a member of a marketing company.

    The question remains though, is Nick still being spammed?

    A very good marketing company and you left out the best with educational benefits.
    What else is there ?

    Look on my sites and search me on the web all you wish and try to find me after 10 years using all this super marketing.Yet here we are with me a member .Bet nobody here know of my achieving member of the year 2015 because of my business being so busy there is no time to spend on marketing it yet.

    My business is not slamming me because of InterNachi marketing but because of the educational benefits.

    Say must have missed something but where is Kevin Woods ?

    Last but least my last name is Elliott....not Elliot.

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    I don't use Nachi and you can find me too. But I market differently.


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    Bob is correct. Education comes first. That's why we put it first on our membership benefits page Inspector Membership Benefits - InterNACHI

    Happy scrolling and clicking!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Bob is correct. Education comes first. That's why we put it first on our membership benefits page Inspector Membership Benefits - InterNACHI

    Happy scrolling and clicking!
    No one can match those Benefits Lisa.


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    A very good marketing company and you left out the best with educational benefits.
    What else is there ?
    So a good marketing strategy is to spam?
    And if education is paramount then everything else is meaningless. Got it! Thanks. That's what I thought you meant. It explains a lot.🙈🙉🙊


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    So a good marketing strategy is to spam?
    Personally emailing fellow home inspectors in the home inspection industry to alert them to an upcoming free home inspection meeting with presentations from home inspection industry leaders including two home inspection technical trainers (one on electrical and one on mold), an attorney who only works with home inspectors, the owner of a home inspection company that performs 20,000 home inspections a year (offering tips for growth), along with drinks, snacks, 800 pounds of inspection training material, inspection text books, and inspection-related door prizes, all for free, doesn't sound like "spam" to me.

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