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06-08-2007, 09:32 PM
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BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Q: What do you do when your licensing lobbyist realizes that your licensing position is an abject failure and is counterproductive to your overall health and wellbeing?
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06-09-2007, 10:49 AM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Nice try Joe, but this is not the reason.
Swandby suffered the budget axe. At over $100,000 a year, a less expensive method and service was found.
Many chapters have contracted with Swandby for state specific information and services. The TN chapters of ASHI have joined and contracted Swandby and it is costing each chapter about $35 a month for legislative information.
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06-09-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
Nice try Joe, but this is not the reason.
You, can fool some of the people some of the time but it appears that it is a bit too convenient to decide to bag your legislative spokesperson only after they lost their religion.
I was present at the ASHI leadership meeting when Janet expressed her moment of doubt & faith, heard it with my own ears. She no longer believes that licensing is benefiting our profession and is convinced that as an association ASHI will suffer most when a state adopts licensing. Pandora's box is flung open wide and all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put a positive spin on HI licensing again.
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06-09-2007, 11:46 AM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson
You, can fool some of the people some of the time but it appears that it is a bit too convenient to decide to bag your legislative spokesperson only after they lost their religion.
I was present at the ASHI leadership meeting when Janet expressed her moment of doubt & faith, heard it with my own ears. She no longer believes that licensing is benefiting our profession and is convinced that as an association ASHI will suffer most when a state adopts licensing. Pandora's box is flung open wide and all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put a positive spin on HI licensing again.
I sat in that same meeting as did a few hundred other ASHI folks. Must be why ASHI national gave her permission and contact information so her company could contact the chapters.
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06-09-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Scott,
What's wrong with you? Don't you realize that some people go to meetings under the influence and can't remember anything said, or they just make stuff up anyway?
I thought the sound of the crickets was so nice while it lasted.
JF
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06-09-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Will the last one out please turn off the lights.
Thank you.
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06-09-2007, 04:37 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Joe,
Are you still a member of NACHI?
I know you are a member of ASHI.
Curious.
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06-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Jerry Peck
Joe,
Are you still a member of NACHI?
I know you are a member of ASHI.
Curious.
NACHI Only.
Never ASHI (Past, Present and/or Future)

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06-09-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Jack Feldmann
Scott,
What's wrong with you? Don't you realize that some people go to meetings under the influence.
I don't drink or smoke ask anyone, but it is quite obvious that you have drunk deeply from the ASHI kool-aid bowl, your disappointment will be great, better stick with jesus, or at least not confuse the two.
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06-09-2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Jerry Peck
Joe,
Are you still a member of NACHI?
I know you are a member of ASHI.
Curious.
Sorry Joe H., I should have specified ...
I meant that question for Joe B. (which I am sure you knew, which was the reason for the smiley face  )
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06-09-2007, 06:38 PM
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06-09-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Jerry Peck
Sorry Joe H., I should have specified ...
I meant that question for Joe B. (which I am sure you knew, which was the reason for the smiley face  )
I am a lifetime member of NACHI why do you ask? The only membership that I had to drop was FABI, their by-laws stipulate that members must be in favor of government intervention & regulation and that violates my core beliefs.
P.S I must have done something right to be awarded a double happy-face from Hagarty. 
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06-09-2007, 08:22 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Joe B.,
I ask because I have another question.
In your opinion, and all others who wish to respond too, is NACHI and its message board a "prime time show" and inspectionnews.com a "high school play" by comparison?
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06-09-2007, 08:26 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson
The only membership that I had to drop was FABI,
Joe B.,
I would like to say that you will be missed at FABI ...
... but I can't say that with a straight face.
Sorry, could not resist ... you just set yourself up for that one so perfectly that I had to take it.
My bad. My bad. I'll go back to my corner now. 
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06-10-2007, 07:55 AM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
I don't drink or smoke ask anyone
I see you didn't include needles or snorting.
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06-10-2007, 10:18 AM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Originally Posted by Jack Feldmann
I don't drink or smoke ask anyone
I see you didn't include needles or snorting.
Jack, you must by now know what I think of you and your senseless comments, but what really irks me is the fact that you are attempting to make ASHI's dumping of its legislative mouthpiece Janet Swandby into a personal vendetta.
Although I am a prominent member of ASHI and many members come to me for my opinion, for the record I had no part in firing Janet Swandby and if consulted would have been against it.
Is it possible for you to stay on topic and refrain from your devious hateful attacks so that the discussion can continue?
I know that the failure of home inspector licensing to eliminate your competition weighs heavily on you, but face it, using home inspector licensing legislation as the key piece of your marketing plan was doomed from the onset and you have no one to blame but yourself.
Hopefully now that Janet Swandby is no longer under the thumb of ASHI management she will be able to speak freely about the country wide failure of home inspector licensing and how in particular it has failed to live up to the promises of its supporters, no doubt that FABI will feel the effects of such misplaced support in the near future.
Who knows maybe NACHI could use a good legislative lobbyist, (especially one who tells the truth) the $100K is pin money to Nick Gromicko. 
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06-10-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Once more, Mr. Burkeson tries to share truth and is personally attacked for his views.
There must be a whole lot of frustration coming from the pro-liciensing camps with so much going on to repeal existing laws while successfully thwarting attempts to add states to those suffering from them.
Keep up the good fight, Joe.
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06-10-2007, 07:44 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Does anyone besides me find it ironic that Bushart, childishly using his IN alias "Hempelstern", is complaining about 'personal attacks' on Burkeson?
I mean, it wasn't that long ago that Burkeson was unceremoniously dumped from a toothless "advisory" committee at his internet inspectors club:
7/21/05 - Please note that as of Thursday, 7/21/2005. After reviewing the incident pertaining to Mr. Joseph Burkeson copying and pasting information from the MAB private forum into the members only section of the Bulletin Board, the MAB decided to vote on the removal of Mr. Burkeson for breaching the committee trust. It was the willingness and act itself, and not the content of the matter that brought about the decision to vote on the issue. A vote of five (5) in favor of "Yes", and three (3) in favor of "No", resulted in the removal of Mr. Burkeson from the committee. The decision has been forwarded to NACHI leadership and notice to Mr. Burkeson has been issued.
And Bushart offered:
July 24, 2005
Poor Burkeson didn't know that Bowman and Wiley had him pegged since last Spring. I always suspected it was Dave Bush. Oh, well. Burkeson is such a loser, anyway. I used to like him.
JAMES H. BUSHART
Home Inspector, Home Inspection Services of Missouri
Apparently, They have resolved their differences, and Bushart no longer thinks Burkeson is a loser.
Or does he ...?
RT
Originally Posted by Harvey Hempelstern
Once more, Mr. Burkeson tries to share truth and is personally attacked for his views.
There must be a whole lot of frustration coming from the pro-liciensing camps with so much going on to repeal existing laws while successfully thwarting attempts to add states to those suffering from them.
Keep up the good fight, Joe.
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06-10-2007, 07:54 PM
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Re: BOOM! ASHI Dumps Swandby
Did they change the definition of the word "prominent" and forget to notify me?
Here's a news flash: Accepting a position in a local chapter that no one else wanted does not make one a "prominent member of ASHI".
I was under the impression that Burkeson was held in the same low regard at ASHI that he enjoys here and at his internet inspectors club.
I could be wrong, but ...you know ... I'm not.
RT
Originally Posted by Joseph Burkeson
Although I am a prominent member of ASHI and many members come to me for my opinion, for the record I had no part in firing Janet Swandby and if consulted would have been against it.
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