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Old 08-14-2007, 05:45 PM
Lewis Capaul Lewis Capaul is offline
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Lewis,

It is hard to see the big picture when the only association you have ever known is NACHI especially when your vantage point has now shrunk to the size of a keyhole. Still, you are entitled to your anger and POV but as you have already experienced it comes at a cost.

Since you did not acknowledge or agree with the journey of my personal success that I outlined in a previous post I really have nothing more to share with you, but rest assured there isn't anything you can say or do that will invalidate the reality of my success and where I am today.

Maybe you think things are vastly different in other organizations, having belonged to three I can tell you none have the complete answer and none are without flaws, hopefully you will find what it is you are looking for. Just a note; if your goal is to work for change within an organization it is always best to be inside instead of outside nose pressed against the glass looking in.

All the best - Joe.
Joe, Just where have I endorsed any HI Association? I have only stated, as I have many times that other associations have much more credible entrance requirements, which include a proctored exam? I'm happy for now being totally independent from any association. I may someday join ASHI but I'm not planning on doing so at present. As we've discussed before, I don't rally care what goes on in Florida or anywhere I don't do business, here in my area ASHI is the top gun. I tried to find a policy within Nachi that would let me support and promote Nachi in this area, but I couldn't find any that I would want my name associated with. Busharts loophole method of if modifying the SOP, and using inaccurate terms to describe conditions in order to avoid State Laws are not something I would support, in fact I will use it against interNachi in my area.

Like I said I included you and your business in my view of interNachi because of your constant support for Nick, Bushart and their policies. You have a lot of experience that prepared you for Home Inspection, but most of your members do not, they are the ones that Nick and his sheep have convinced that Nachi and its success are vital to their own business. I happen to agree with much of your "earlier post". As I just got through pointing out, anyone can take the NHIE prior to joining any association. Too many of your members read all the magazine articles and jumped into Home Inspection and Nachi expecting to make a million $$$ in their first year, without any background, education or preparation, your "On-line Exam allow them to do so, most are gone within a year, likely without ever performing a single inspection, hence the constant turnover at Nachi. There are many great people in Nachi, and many very experienced and highly competent Inspectors, my question is why do they allow Nick and his B.S. policies and "certifications" to degrade them.

I don't need the "Big Picture" to conduct my business Joe, I just need the picture of what is going on in my area and in the industry in general. I asked earlier why I would "Repent", now I ask what "cost" are you talking about that you believe I have paid or experienced? For there to have been a Cost associated with my removal from Nachi, first there would have needed to be a benefit that I lost. I can't think of any.

By the way Joe, I've also been inspecting since 2003.

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Old 08-14-2007, 06:13 PM
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It is simply amazing that one person who is a self appointed chair of a committee that has no charter or guidelines could terminate a dues paying member. Simply amazing.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:16 PM
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Amazing, you want to know whats amazing? Watch me pull a rabbit outa my hat... How about a thread that starts out questioning NAHI's inadequacies that turns into a NACHI bash... Presto, chango alakazam, friggin' amazin'! Give the man a cigar.

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Old 08-14-2007, 07:18 PM
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It is simply amazing that one person who is a self appointed chair of a committee that has no charter or guidelines could terminate a dues paying member. Simply amazing.
I think if you looked around at some of the other passengers on this "short bus" you will find several who have been tossed from NACHI now attacking it from the safe confines of this message board.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:41 PM
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Tossed from NACHI...

Jim,

People get tossed from NACHI for simply asking the wrong questions. You make it sound like Dan and others were thrown to the lions by Julius Caesar and his entourage.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:49 AM
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I've never been given an "Official" reason for my being kicked out, no one from the interNachi ESOP Committee has sent me anything in writing, other than an email from Farsetta saying that I was kicked out, I had to harass them to get that.

What I believe is the reason is when I finally became so disgusted with the behavior and statements of interNachi Leadership regarding Nick/Bushart's response to the supposed settlement of the lawsuit between Nick and Nahi that I posted this here, the first I heard that I was kicked out came from a post by Mr. Nice here, this is what I posted the "Penile Implant" thread:

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NACHI Leadership has reached a new low, here's a link to a demonstration of their feeding frenzy following their self proclaimed victory over NAHI, an embarrassment to all NACHI members and to the industry as a whole.

You are not going to believe this.... - NACHI Message Board


I'd spent the week or two before arguing against the CMI Designation and questioning Nick's version of the settlement, I expected to be kicked out over that, which from rumors I've heard was part of the reason. I've been threatened many times with expulsion and had decided months ago to force the issue. I ordered new brochures and business cards weeks before I was kicked out that had no reference to Nachi, I did renew my membership in June, mostly so that I could continue to piss off Bushart and his sheep. They claim I violated their COE by harming Nachi or its members in some way, but all I did was post a link to statements the Leadership had themselves made, maybe it was really those statements that harmed Nachi and its members.

Even old Joe B. will have to admit that my criticism of Nachi and Nick is nothing new. The only thing new about it is that it now takes place outside their message board.

Farsetta is the chairman of the interNachi ESOP Committee, he has the same position within CMI, he also is so proud of his Nachi position that he doesn't even display the interNachi logo on his website, even while he attempts to sell his "education" packages to Nachi members.
Everyone here is so intent on taking jabs at Nick and NACHI and each other that they are seemingly blind to some of the real marketing wonders in the business. A good friend of mine just sent me this. Check it out:

JibJab | Funny Jokes, Animated Videos, Cartoons, Flash Movies, Hilarious Clips, Parody, Satire

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Old 08-16-2007, 08:33 PM
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Now that is a REAL song and dance. I cannot speak to the value of any of Mr. Crow's stuff but I can say this. When I get my regular unsolicited CD's and newsletters from Mike C The stack up on a shelf in my office. I will probably look the stuff over at some point and see if I can glean anything of value for my business.

When I see the reference to "Millionaire Inspector's Community" I cringe. I suppose if you do the math, it may not be out of the question, but that does not change the fact that it sounds (to me) like selling a bit of snake oil.
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:59 PM
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Tossed from NACHI...

Jim,

People get tossed from NACHI for simply asking the wrong questions. You make it sound like Dan and others were thrown to the lions by Julius Caesar and his entourage.
It's cool Erol.. Harvey is just using me and others as an example what will happen to other members of his cult that are also reading this BB, if they start thinking on their own after visiting here, instead of only reading and believing what nick the dictator tells them on his site..

Guess he figures calling banned, and non nachi members "short bus inspectors" will also prevent others in his org from asking questions and wandering from the fold.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:57 PM
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I think if you looked around at some of the other passengers on this "short bus" you will find several who have been tossed from NACHI now attacking it from the safe confines of this message board.
But Harvey, I for one have said the same things as I do here, on your own message board for the past two years, I don't even feel the need to post under an alias. Are you saying that the interNachi Message Board isn't "Safe", I think it is, at worst anyone who asks questions only needs to put up with threats, emails, and PM's from fools, all of them your buddies. I attacked your credibility when I was a member, why would I stop now.

A "Short Bus", that sounds like a description of the vehicle most of your transient members would use for the short time the belong to your "association".

Does "Penile Implant" still make you giggle James?
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