NAHI has an article on their website that says: "recently a web site popped up offering to "certify" anyone as a Master Inspector for $175."

Tips to Avoid Bad Apples in the Home Inspection Industry

Can somebody point out where this website is? Does it actually exist or is this just another hit piece fabricated using lies innuendo to attempt to get the public to think twice when they see people with a CMI designation?

I am not a CMI but I sure know that "anyone" can't get that certification and it sure doesn't cost $175.00.

Perhaps this was hastily posted before anyone check the facts since the same article states: "Typically the cost of the inspection is only 1%-2% of the total transaction value."

Now would we all be delighted if we made $2500 or more on an inspection of a $250,000 home. Even a $100,000 home would earn us $1000.

I would like to see this website that offers "anyone" a "master inspector" certification for $175. Anyone know where it is, or is a correction or retraction in order?

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

I believe this site is going to sell useless licenses soon. The cost will be $175. The designation will be SDHIG. It stands for Super Duper Home Inspector Guy. I'll post the payment link when I get it.

Super Duper Home Inspector Guy

It did cost $175 recently, then the price was increased. Perhaps the article isn't fresh.

This is a quote from nick
"Originally I wanted CMI to cost $175"

Why don't you inform nahi to change their post to
" only the nachi inspectors with $375.00 can become cmi's" as long as they agree to raise their inspection fees, other wise bushart will boycott them to assure they will fail

Not that one. That link goes to a domain name that was registered this evening at godaddy.com by an Dick Whitfield out of North Carolina. You just happen to be out of NC aren't you James? Some buddy of yours or are you REALLY Dick Whitfield.

Is that supposed to be some sort of cover for a false story?

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

The last it was $175 was in December ( I have a copy of the application) of last year and even then it was not for anybody. You still had to meet the requirements and those were raised pretty shortly after that.

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

So that quote is supposed to mean something Dan? So what if he wanted it to be $175.

Since nobody took credit for the article (most articles there name the author). But in this case the author was SUCH A COWARD, he also didn't mention who was offering these "certifications". If the story was true there should be no problem doing so.

Oh yea, I hear that not exclusive to NACHI members but only open to those that meet the requirements. You can argue the value of the requirements all you want but they are requirements just the same.

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

In the last 4 years, quite possibly longer, I haven't had one phone call asking about a CMI designation. In that time my company has done around 5000 inspections. Whatever this HEAVILY disputed designation is doesn't exactly seem to be the road to richess within this industry...

I don't have an opinion about this whole debate but it sure seems like all the effort would be better spent elsewhere.

You are probably right. It seems that the heavy dispute comes from those who feel that their formula for what makes a good inspector is the only good one. The truth is that statistics show that mistakes, legal actions and payouts show that inspectors are no better in one organization than another.

The more I learn about activities of some NAHI leaders and members, there appears to be a growing and disturbing pattern of deceit and trickery to try to do damage to another organization and its members. There is such a level of complete and utter arrogance on their part that one has to wonder how long the rank and file is going to put up with it. How much is it going to have to cost them before they clean house? (rhetorical question)

When they point their fingers at what they suggest are "Bad Apples" they need to take a serious look in the mirror.
(A little fact checking wouldn't hurt either)

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

While the wheels of justice may be slow, they are turning.

Mallory would be wise to follow the advice of those close to her who are urging her to resign so as not to bring down the entire association when she falls.

David, how long have you been involved in the home inspection profession? Just curious.

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Scott Patterson
Spring Hill, TN
http://www.traceinspections.com

What requirements? do you mean the 150 Hours of self defined "education". When Nick first came up with this marketing scam, many members of your organization were, and are still, against it, because CMI never had any credible qualifications, Nick took the complaints to be that the price was to low to be "Meaningful", so he raised the price, demonstrating his theory that people believe if they pay more, then what ever they are buying must be better.

I see your buddy Bushart is predicting the death of CMI because those who have purchased the designation won't raise their prices (as he lowers his), which, as he says was the only goal of the CMI Designation anyway. In one of the threads on your message board, John says that there are only 200 CMI's, if you dig through your message board you will find a post from approximately a year ago that says more than 100 have already signed up for CMI, that was under the old criteria, $175 and 150 hours of "education". So it seems that at least half of the current CMI's may have purchased that designation without ever having performed a single Home Inspection.

The "Death" of CMI will be because the clients, the Realtors, and the Industry will not accept it as being credible, and that CMI, being NACHI, will not be able to find enough Nachi members who can meet even the pi$$ poor standards that are now required. How many of your current, and transient, 10,000 members are even "full Nachi members" with 100 inspections, let alone 1000?

Bushart, Nick, John Joe F., and others all say that CMI is not an association or organization, that it is only a designation. If that's true, then isn't NACHI also only a designation, both are Certified, for a fee, both offer "Education" and training, both have members only message boards, both conduct on-line meetings, both have the same "leadership" (Nick Joe F, etc) and the members or designees of neither can vote and pick their own leadership or set their own policies........so it would seem that either both are "Associations or Organizations" or both are merely designations.

I will certainly be glad when all of the members of all of the major HI organizations grow beyond the name-calling and assorted BS-tossing that they're presently engaged in. The "my-association's huevos are bigger than your association's" mind set is strictly for the adolescent dingbats who engage in it.

As a long-time member of ASHI, NAHI, NACHI, and a few others, I don't see where any of them have the whole picture or the final answer. From the pompous at ASHI to the self-absorbed at NAHI to the downright carnival huksters at NACHI, its a truly mixed bag.

In a perfect world the groups would work together. At the very least they could stand to learn from one another. A group with ASHI's website and exam, NAHI's Forum, and NACHI's marketing savvy would be a thing of beauty.

Let's try to get along.

More hot wind blowing from the sour grapes in the produce section.

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

Long enough to see through your purported innocent questions.

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

Aaron,

Since it appears that you are so full of... wisdom, please share with us the first step that would be required to reach this utopia you speak of. I for one would be quite excited to be cruising the Yellow Brick Road off to Oz with my Munchkin buddies representing the Home Inspector's League.

Joe.

David the question has no hidden agenda or meaning. It is a simple question that you should not have a problem providing the answer. I started in 1995.

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Scott Patterson
Spring Hill, TN
http://www.traceinspections.com

Aaron,

You might be on to something there. It is possible that some level of cooperation between organizations can and will be reached. Unfortunately, with the current climate it will likely take a major power shift or the end of an old and shrinking association for that to occur.

The destruction of NACHI and the livelihoods of its members seems to have become so ingrained in the culture of that association that it is difficult to see how that will ever be able to be reversed, short of it's own self destruction.

Criticism can often be an opening to some valuable discussions and positive change, but efforts to undermine and destroy serve no useful purpose. In some cases it appears to have risen to the level of criminal activity.

Some people seem to think that they can dig through NACHI message boards to find ammunition to blow a smokescreen over what has been happening. The truth will come out and unfortunately it may be at the expense of a lot of innocent members who are just trying to advance their careers and the industry.

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David Nice
http://www.nationalcertified.com
National Certified Inspection Services, Inc.Wauwatosa, WI

Joe:

I don't bait that easily. And bsides, you'd be out of your depth.

Aaron