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Old 09-01-2007, 02:57 PM
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My only problem with Gromicko.
Deleted. Mr. Gromicko is OK with me and helped me when I needed help.

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Old 09-01-2007, 03:08 PM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
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...My employer is insisting that I join Iac2. ...

Why should an environmental inspector be forced to join a home inspector group?

Have you discussed this with your employer? It sounds like an internal company decision.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
Gromicko's million sites automatically forward commercial environmental inquiries to the companies with the most Iac2 members. But I specialize in IAQ for server and switch rooms and don't want to study plumbing or roofing. My boss is just trying to keep us employed.

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Old 09-01-2007, 04:27 PM
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. Nick will not grant me an exemption. Why should an environmental inspector be forced to join a home inspector group?

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Old 09-01-2007, 04:36 PM
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Iac2 requires membership in NACHI but I first have to learn electrical issues, roofing issues and other trades I know nothing of.
Take the practice test online, even if you think you know nothing. You might just pass.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:50 PM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
Iac2 is free so it's not money, it's monopoly! He is taking over a totally different industry and giving it to his nachi inspectors who may not be qualified to do much more than taking a mold sample. He sees anyone who isn't a nachi member as nothing other than street trash in his way. I live less then 30 miles from him and one of my friends works for him so believe me. He wants the IAQ industry for nachi and that's that. He runs around Denver meeting with all the Realtors about pay to play but how is nachi to play or Iac2 to play any different?
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:56 PM
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:11 PM
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:40 PM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
NACHI is attempting to take away your livelihood. IMO. You have every reason to be pissed.

Said as a NACHI member.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:52 PM
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
John,

Your problem appears to be with your employer. Address your situation with your supervisor for resolution.
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:12 PM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
For one thing, it strikes me as ironic that people on this forum go on an on about how easy it is to join NACHI and pass it's little know-nothing test. But it appears that it is a little more difficult than what it appears.

Number two... Mr Gromicko should not be asked to break the entry rules.

Number three... If you want to cry foul play, then go complain to your employer for forcing you to do something beyond your ability and job description, on the threat of loosing your employment. That is the real problem here, not Mr Gromicko or NACHI.

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Old 09-01-2007, 07:49 PM
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:05 PM
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I registered for the nachi forum but Mr. Gromicko appears not want to hear tough questions. It said I don't have permission to access the page. So much for free speech.

Can someone ask why only home inspectors can join Iac2 for me on the nachi forum? I will watch from the sidelines. If you are too afraid to ask then this is my last post on a home inspection forum. I get it.
John,

You are suggesting that your Employer is being discriminatory in requiring you to become a Member of a Non-Profit Fratenal Organization.

How is Nick and/or NACHI involved?

You need to address your situation with your Employer. Not NACHI.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:14 PM
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Old 09-02-2007, 07:17 AM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
Agreed. John Michael, your beef is with your employer. Take it up with them.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:03 AM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
I'll have to agree with the last three comments.
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:29 AM
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Re: My only problem with Gromicko.
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For one thing, it strikes me as ironic that people on this forum go on an on about how easy it is to join NACHI and pass it's little know-nothing test. But it appears that it is a little more difficult than what it appears.

Number two... Mr Gromicko should not be asked to break the entry rules.

Number three... If you want to cry foul play, then go complain to your employer for forcing you to do something beyond your ability and job description, on the threat of loosing your employment. That is the real problem here, not Mr Gromicko or NACHI.

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Nick breaks the rules every day when he admits Vendors who have not passed the membership requirements.

My question would be why would any one want a meaningless designation like IAc2, which involves taking a 4 or 8 hour class, or claiming you did, Another High Quality Nachi Certification designed solely for deceiving clients.
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It's just that home inspectors shouldn't tell me I'm not qualified to practice my own profession. I don't even work on residential properties.


John,

Just be aware that this is but a simple perception problem on your part, one which is not unique to NACHI. There are other national associations who will discount all of your degrees, licenses and experience placing you in the same category as burger flippers, bartenders and soda jerks until you pass their test and perform 250 inspections. My suggestion is to just get over it.


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Old 09-02-2007, 05:30 PM
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My employer is insisting that I join Iac2.
Joseph, he is upset because his boss is insisting that he joins Iac2 and for his reasons, doesn't want to. It sound like he needs to go back to his boss and discuss this issue with him. For what ever reason, his boss thinks there is a benefit for John to join Iac2. Maybe his boss is not aware of the requirements, maybe he is. This does not sound like a "just get over it" type of situation.

There are things I do not want to put my time or money towards, but sometimes it's just required. Good luck John on either direction you go.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:09 PM
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Michael if you are a nachi member can you call Mr. Gromicko and explain my problem to him for me? He treats nonmembers like crap. My boss gave me Gromicko's cell phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx but he won't listen because I'm not a member. It's a catch 22. Help me if you can.
If you think you will accomplish anything by publicly posting Nick's cell phone number, you are dead wrong. What some have called some sort of "master plan" to own the IAQ industry is simply a plan to give NACHI home inspectors a crack at learning and offering ancillary services such as IAQ.

Your employer may not understand the IAC2 is for NACHI members who offer such services. It is certainly not an attempt to dominate the field and take away your livelihood.


As others have said, take it up with your employer. There are other IAQ organizations to join that don't require membership in another organization. another option is to give joining NACHI a shot. You can do ALL the membership requirements (including 30, 45, 6 month requirements) before applying and paying.

It might not hurt knowing a lot about the HI industry and having access to al lot of IAQ discussions that are in the "members only" area.

Lastly, you could ask a NACHI member to intercede and see if you can get an affiliate membership. I don't know if Nick would do that but I know he is an extremely busy man and it might take a NACHI member who has regular contact with him to run it by him.
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