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    Default Mobile homes have attics too

    We just don't get to see the attic, except when somebody's cut a hole in the ceiling.
    I got my camera in there for a few shots. Nice curved trusses, 1970's single wide with the original metal roof. It looks like the seams have leaked a few times and that probably caused the staining. I suggested they have a membrane installed over the metal, but I am open to better ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kogel View Post
    I suggested they have a membrane installed over the metal, but I am open to better ideas.

    I don't have a better idea, but around here a membrane roof doesn't fit the budget, so it's a couple a buckets of kool seal, a roller, a six pack and a few hours on a Saturday.


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    Gees, Chris. Quit being so cheap. Thrown in a pizza or two.

    I tell my customers they can get a lot of work done for beer and pizza, just don't serve the beer & pizza until the work is done. Pizza makes people lazy. Beer makes them stupid. You don't want lazy stupid people working on your home.

    "Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid!" John Wayne

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    John - Here is an idea.

    I would put in 2 very strong disclaimers in my report.
    Something like this.

    1. The inspector was allowed a very limited visual view of the space
    between the interior ceiling and the roofing material - "attic space",
    as there was a hole in the ceiling of the habitable space.
    The view from the accessible hole was severely limited and hidden conditions may exists.
    Further more, structural evaluation of manufactured home roof framing systems, of this age, goes well beyond the scope of a typical home inspection.

    2. Then a very, very strong disclaimer regarding "Mold or the Like"
    email me some time and I'll shoot ya one over.
    hiswest@yahoo.com

    Remember - When you get sued for exceeding your standards of practice,
    assuming you have one, Erby and Chris won't be there handing out beer and pizza!

    mf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kogel View Post
    Nice curved trusses, 1970's single wide with the original metal roof. It looks like the seams have leaked a few times and that probably caused the staining. I suggested they have a membrane installed over the metal, but I am open to better ideas.
    A match and charcoal fluid comes to mind....


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    Quote Originally Posted by matt faust View Post
    John - Here is an idea.
    I would put in 2 very strong disclaimers in my report.
    Something like this.
    1. hidden conditions may exists.
    2. Then a very, very strong disclaimer regarding "Mold or the Like"
    Remember - When you get sued for exceeding your standards of practice,
    assuming you have one, Erby and Chris won't be there handing out beer and pizza!
    I think after they shoot my dog, chop holes in my boat and drag me on a chain thru town, they won't be much in the mood to sue me, too. You never know, though. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kogel View Post
    I think after they shoot my dog, chop holes in my boat and drag me on a chain thru town, they won't be much in the mood to sue me, too. You never know, though. Thanks.

    Dear John.............

    Right under this quote of yours is an ad - I think you might want to visit
    Kevin and Mike at their next educational seminar.

    So - get your dog to a safe house, put your boat in the garage and lock it,
    get out your skate board for the ride through town, and make sure you have
    inspection insurance - because I do know - at some time in your inspection
    career, warranted or not - YOU WILL BE SUED - it's a statistical fact of life.

    Disclaimers - are everything - start collecting them.
    mf

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt faust View Post

    ....because I do know - at some time in your inspection
    career, warranted or not - YOU WILL BE SUED - it's a statistical fact...

    Matt, could you post a link to those statistics, I would love to take a look at 'em.


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    Chris,
    If you don't agree - then we can assume that you don't carry
    E&O or GL insurance.

    Is that correct - because I assure you the people who insure you
    have those statistics - at least that's how insurance companies in my
    state work............In KY they may still settle these matters over a
    six pack of Bud!

    mf

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    Default Re: Mobile homes have attics too

    For the age, this home is in nice shape (what the pics show,anyway). Membrane would work well. At minimum, a brush-on, fibered coating would be a low cost alternative--this would help seal the crimped seams and also minimize rust issues. The deluxe approach would be a light-weight, insulated, aluminum roof-over.


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    I know this thread is past its prime, but for those who might find it while searching.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory Booth View Post
    The deluxe approach would be a light-weight, insulated, aluminum roof-over.

    RV Awnings | Camper Awnings | Mobile Home Roof Overs


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    Default Re: Mobile homes have attics too

    I seriously doubt someone is going to be sued for "exceeding your standards of practice".

    You are more likely to be sued because you missed something. While a SOP will likely come up, the focus is usually where someone DID NOT follow the SOP. At least that has been my experience in the few legal cases I have been involved with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mcintyre View Post
    Matt, could you post a link to those statistics, I would love to take a look at 'em.

    Some people get sued many times. Most people never get sued.

    I know folks that have been doing this for decades...including me, that have never been sued for anything in their entire career. I also know some folks that have been sued many times. To many disclaimers or something. I keep those to a minimum as well. I keep the contract to an extreme minimum.

    I handle unruly people like they try to handle me. All that seems to have worked in 38 years of being self employed/business owner.

    Don't try to hide behind anything. Let folks know that they will find something down the road that may have been deficient when you did the inspection. Let them know you are there to "REDUCE" their risk financially in the home buying process and "It is impossible to eliminate their risk altogether". Warranty nothing, guaranty nothing because simply put....you cannot warranty them or guaranty them that they will find nothing after the fact even if you spent twice the time at that inspection.

    Most warranties and disclaimers and contracts are a bunch of crap and the more you shove in their face the more they are going to look for to come after you own. It becomes a challenge. Be honest and upfront with everyone. You are not their hero. You are not the end all of the home buying process. Stick countless certs and experience in their face and the more they do not listen to that you are human.

    The sun was at a different angle when you went around the home in the morning. Let them see what sowed up going around the home one more time in the end. You will always find something else....They need to know that.

    End of rant!


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