Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Cut truss

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Daniel Island, SC.
    Posts
    221

    Default Cut truss

    Inspected a house yesterday and found this in the attic. The air/handler is mounted below this cut truss on a stand. They connected a strap to the main truck line to hold or sercure the line. Other then being wrong what else would you say?

    Jim Murphy

    Similar Threads:
    ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images
    NHIE Practice Exam

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Succasunna NJ
    Posts
    573

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Here's my standard marco:

    [0007]Trusses have been cut or altered at ^location^, this may compromise the integrity of the structure. According to today's standard "Truss members and components shall not be cut, notched, spliced or otherwise altered in any way without approval of a registered design professional..." I recommend having any repairs verified by a licensed PE with a copy of his approval stapled to the (damaged) truss in case this question arises when future sales occur.


    Funny, I had an inspection several weeks ago that had four cut trusses; two for the pull down ladder and two for the whole house fan. Got the standard answer from the reeeeeltor; house was built that way and passed the town inspection.

    Darren www.aboutthehouseinspections.com
    'Whizzing & pasting & pooting through the day (Ronnie helping Kenny helping burn his poots away!) (FZ)

  3. #3
    imported_John Smith's Avatar
    imported_John Smith Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    That broken switch cover needs replaced. Its amazing to see the truss cut so cleanly. Usually it looks like they take hatchets to them.


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Rockwall Texas
    Posts
    4,517

    Default Re: Cut truss

    How can you get all those boxes in the attic if you don't cut out those trusses? Get em on out of there.

    rick

    ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Ormond Beach, Florida
    Posts
    25,317

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Rick,

    Dang builder shoulda knowd bettar dan to put that thar wood in da way anyway, rit?

    Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
    Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )
    www.AskCodeMan.com

  6. #6
    Howard Tennyson's Avatar
    Howard Tennyson Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    The homeowners may have needed a Yule Log for Christmas day and thought "Hey, there's a bunch of wood in the attic!"


  7. #7
    A.D. Miller's Avatar
    A.D. Miller Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by JIM MURPHY View Post
    Inspected a house yesterday and found this in the attic. The air/handler is mounted below this cut truss on a stand. They connected a strap to the main truck line to hold or sercure the line. Other then being wrong what else would you say?

    Jim Murphy
    Jim:

    The obvious truss touche -
    R802.7.2 Engineered wood products.
    Cuts, notches and
    holes bored in trusses, structural composite lumber, structural
    glue-laminated members or I-joists are prohibited except
    where permitted by the manufacturer’s recommendations or
    where the effects of such alterations are specifically considered
    in the design of the member by a registered design professional.

    The obvious switch plate problem -
    404.9 Provisions for General-Use Snap Switches.
    (A) Faceplates. Faceplates provided for snap switches mounted in boxes and other enclosures shall be installed so as to completely cover the opening and, where the switch is flush mounted, seat against the finished surface.

    The obvious roof decking dilemna -
    OSB sheathing/decking cannot be installed in sections less than 24" in width. Can't find the APA doc just now. Gotta go to work soon . . .







  8. #8
    A.D. Miller's Avatar
    A.D. Miller Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Can't find the text, but found the picture -

    ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Ormond Beach, Florida
    Posts
    25,317

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by A.D. Miller View Post
    The obvious roof decking dilemna -
    OSB sheathing/decking cannot be installed in sections less than 24" in width. Can't find the APA doc just now. Gotta go to work soon . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by A.D. Miller View Post
    Can't find the text, but found the picture -
    Also note in that drawing where it states "Each piece must be continuous over at least two spans." That's because that is the way it was rated.

    Which means minimum length is 48" for the typical 24" o.c. roof framing, unless another *structural* framing blocking is installed.

    Which brings up another pet peeve: sheathing which does not reach the top chord of the truss so they just nail another 2x4 to the side of the top chord with two or three nails and then nail the end of the sheathing to it.

    You really think that 2x4 with those two or three nails is equivalent to being nailed to the truss (or rafter)? Heck no, that piece of wood will pull right off when the roof sheathing is placed under design loading.


    Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
    Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )
    www.AskCodeMan.com

  10. #10
    A.D. Miller's Avatar
    A.D. Miller Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Which brings up another pet peeve: sheathing which does not reach the top chord of the truss so they just nail another 2x4 to the side of the top chord with two or three nails and then nail the end of the sheathing to it.

    You really think that 2x4 with those two or three nails is equivalent to being nailed to the truss (or rafter)? Heck no, that piece of wood will pull right off when the roof sheathing is placed under design loading.
    JP: I see this on every other house. It's a Mexican carpentero cult ritual, I think. If you lie on your back in the attic and look at all of the 2X4s thusly place it spells out the following:

    Mas Que un Carpentero

    or, if you press 1 on your phone, that reads More than a carpenter . . .


  11. #11
    grace holt's Avatar
    grace holt Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by A.D. Miller View Post
    JP: I see this on every other house. It's a Mexican carpentero cult ritual, I think. If you lie on your back in the attic and look at all of the 2X4s thusly place it spells out the following:

    Mas Que un Carpentero

    or, if you press 1 on your phone, that reads More than a carpenter . . .

    Hate speech is not tolerated by the U.S. Constitution. Please refrain from it.


  12. #12
    MaMa Mount's Avatar
    MaMa Mount Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Welcome to the Board Grace.

    Now tell us why your really here.


  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Ft. Myers, FL
    Posts
    363

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by grace holt View Post
    Hate speech is not tolerated by the U.S. Constitution. Please refrain from it.
    Hey Grace, first post and you handle it like that. Relax will you!

    Paul Kondzich
    Ft. Myers, FL.

  14. #14
    Ron Bibler's Avatar
    Ron Bibler Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Give a speech ya ya ya Give a speech...

    Ya ya we need a speech.............. dis dat and de oter ting.....

    Best

    Ron


  15. #15
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Ormond Beach, Florida
    Posts
    25,317

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by grace holt View Post
    Hate speech is not tolerated by the U.S. Constitution. Please refrain from it.
    That's not "hate speech" and that is tolerated by the U.S. Constitution, in fact, the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right to speak freely of your ideas.

    The U.S. Constitution actually defends the rights of those who say much worse to say much worse.

    Not saying I always agree with being able to speak your piece, but, that is - to a point - provided for in the U.S. Constitution.

    Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
    Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )
    www.AskCodeMan.com

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Ormond Beach, Florida
    Posts
    25,317

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Grace,

    Also, please click on the 'User CP' link at the left end of the menu across the top and enter your city, "Florida" is a big state.

    Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
    Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )
    www.AskCodeMan.com

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Memphis TN.
    Posts
    4,311

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by grace holt View Post
    .
    Hate speech is not tolerated by the U.S. Constitution. Please refrain from it.
    .
    You must be thinking of The Laws in Britain and Canada.
    * if you call someone a Politically Incorrect Name they can lock you up.
    .



    ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images ***IMPORTANT*** You Need To Register To View Images
    It Might have Choked Artie But it ain't gone'a choke Stymie! Our Gang " The Pooch " (1932)
    Billy J. Stephens HI Service Memphis TN.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Ormond Beach, Florida
    Posts
    25,317

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by grace holt View Post
    Hate speech is not tolerated by the U.S. Constitution. Please refrain from it.

    I find it strange that a stranger (lurker) comes on, makes their first post and tells regulars (a regular) to "Please refrain from it." because (I guess) they don't want to read it. The answer is really simple ... Don't read it.

    What's so hard about that?

    Next thing you know she'll tell us our hair is not combed properly and not to sit in front of the monitor until we comb our hair the way she likes it.

    Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
    Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )
    www.AskCodeMan.com

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Memphis TN.
    Posts
    4,311

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post

    Next thing you know she'll tell us our hair is not combed properly and not to sit in front of the monitor until we comb our hair the way she likes it.
    .
    Jerry, ( man I know your retired )

    But

    I've been meaning to Speak with You about That !
    *
    and would it kill Ya to Shave every now and then ?

    Last edited by Billy Stephens; 01-22-2009 at 05:57 PM. Reason: remove .
    It Might have Choked Artie But it ain't gone'a choke Stymie! Our Gang " The Pooch " (1932)
    Billy J. Stephens HI Service Memphis TN.

  20. #20
    Bill Walker's Avatar
    Bill Walker Guest

    Default Re: Cut truss

    Not only is her concept of the Constitution warped, so is her understanding of 'hate speech'.


Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •