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05-09-2008, 06:00 PM
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Painted Attic
Hey there lads,
Was in a house attic which is painted lime green. Everthing, rafters joists, sheathing. The fiberglass batts appear to have been removed to accomplish this, then a 2-3 mill plastic draped over the joists and insulation re-inserted.
First thing comes to mind is post fire painting.
Never seen an attic like this. Odd thing is too, this is a steep pitched cedar roof on slats that are over top of OSB.
Any offers gents?
Rick
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05-09-2008, 06:07 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
If the paper facing of the batts is exposed, or only covered with plastic, that's a no-no. Can't speak to the possibility of a previous fire.
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05-09-2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Suspect previous fire............
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05-09-2008, 06:26 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Hey John,
Ya thanks, the insulation is paperless, however the plastic is pretty loosely draped over the joists.
No signs of fire in the structure...did lots of probing, but I'm wondering whether it is an aluminum impregnated paint used for improving thermal value.
Anyone seen that stuff before?
Like most of us, just bugs my backside when I can't explain something.
Thanks
Rick
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05-09-2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Hey Jerry
Yep, that was the first thought of course. Did some digging but found nothing throughout the house to indicate that. Realtors disclosure came up empty as well.
Rick
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05-09-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Had a young kid set up the attic of the house with plastic over all the rafters, joist and then had racks with pot plants, heat lights. the house was in ecsrow. when i came out of the attic and informed the buyers and sellers of the pot plants the owner had no idea what was up there.
the buyers back out of the deal as he was a school teacher and did not want anything to do with house or the pot plants.
Kids.
Best
Ron
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05-09-2008, 07:13 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Hi Ron
Thanks,
This is a definite possibility, though the space is pretty confined and I dug around quite a bit looking for damage.
Should have occurred to me actually, but so small an attic and so big a house, that I overlooked it.
No wonder the three bathroom vents empty into this space.
Police don't even bother with grow ops around here unless they're large.
I've inspected numerous past grow operation houses, but they've been elaborate sizable set-ups.
Where I am situated is the pot growing capital of North Amerca....you know, BC Bud.
Thanks for that
Rick
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05-09-2008, 07:25 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Originally Posted by Rick Souter
Was in a house attic which is painted lime green. Everthing, rafters joists, sheathing.
Sprayed wood treatment. such as borates with that blue-green dye?
Odd thing is too, this is a steep pitched cedar roof on slats that are over top of OSB.
That's one of the approved methods of installation for cedar shakes and shingles.
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05-09-2008, 07:33 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Jerry,
Thanks for that.
Been in many cedar roofed attics....thats a first for me, though this is likely the steepest.
So your speculation is that the paint is a wood treatment?...for?
R
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05-09-2008, 07:40 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Originally Posted by Rick Souter
So your speculation is that the paint is a wood treatment?...for?
Don't know. Possibly to resist high moisture levels expected to be in the attic?
Have a photo?
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05-09-2008, 08:16 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Hey there
back again briefly
Got photos, having trouble posting them.
I'm not doing something right and I've never posted a photo before.
????? 
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05-09-2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
HAD THIS INSPECTION TWO DAYS AGO---FIRE IN BASEMENT--WHOLE HOUSE WAS GUTTED AND REPLACED--ATTIC AND CRAWL SPACE PAINTED-SUGGEST CALLING LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ASK ABOUT ADDRESS AND FIRES REPORTED--ALSO CALL CITY AND SEE IF ANY PERMITS WERE PULLED IN THE LAST YEARS--TO FIX ANYTHING--SORRY ABOUT THE CAPITOL LETTERS GOT STARTED AND COULDN'T STOP
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05-09-2008, 09:27 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Thanks Charlie and for the pics.
Ya, I'll call FD in the morning to see.
What I'm looking at in this attic is thick, quite limey green paint, and no evidence anywhere else in the structure of fire.
Ta Ta for tonight.
Rick
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05-10-2008, 01:21 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Thought I'd present this image of what I've been talking about.
Rick
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05-10-2008, 01:27 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
I wonder if there was a moisture mold problem in the attic. That would explain the removal and replacement of insulation. And they could have painted the attic with a special paint to encapsulate any mold. I have not seen the paint myself but Home Depot sells it ask them what color it is.
Steve Reilly
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05-10-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
I have nothing to add about the lime green paint, but hey.. where did the other half of the ridge board run off to? 
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05-10-2008, 03:47 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Brandon,
Guess the builder thought that all he'd need was the same dimension lumber.
Steve
Yes, I'm leaning towards the attic horticulturist theory, or the Aluminum impregnated paint theory. Whadaya think guys.....paper, rock, scissors? 
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05-10-2008, 05:54 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
What color is that lighter color in the photo? Silver or white? The end of that rafter (where half of the ridge board fell out) looks to be the lighter color also.
As soon as you said "thick paint" I knew it was none of the reasons I thought of, but it did bring up another "thick paint" (white, though, not green) condition I've seen before - supposedly some type of treatment for "mold" ... it was sprayed on *THICK* ... and on everything, including the NM cables, PVC drains, CPVC supply piping - and there are a lot of non-compatibility issues with those items and things they come in contact with, much less are "thickly coated" with.
I'm thinking less and less 'fire' or even 'grow house' (there is no reason to paint everything green for a grow house, that's just a waste of money), and thinking ...
I have no friggin' idea. 
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05-10-2008, 06:36 PM
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Re: Painted Attic
Ya Jerry, thanks....
It's a head banger for me. When I originally thought fire, I did quite a bit of scraping here and there, but its difficult to tell much even by scraping....not like the paint will peel off so you can get a good look.
As you commented, that is a lighter colored patch up there as well...almost whitish, but it was over top of the green. Another piece of sheathing (no Photo) showed a purplish color.
Mold could have been a factor because as I said earlier, the three bathroom vents empty into this space. The ventilation is very good with gable and roof vents, but I also know moisture will do its thing if it can.
Getting a scab on this old head from scratching!
Think I'll have to let this one go....so I can sleep
Thanks for everyones input, I appreciate the help!
Rick
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05-11-2008, 08:21 AM
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Re: Painted Attic
Encapsulation.
I believe it to be a type of encapsulation or preventative measure of possible; - Smoke damage
- Mold issues
- Lead based paint
- Moisture build-up preventative measure
This wasn't done for fun or a hobby. Something was there that needed encapsulating-- I'd recommend that the buyer request disclosure why the need was present and who recommended the preventative measure.
Rich
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05-11-2008, 10:43 AM
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Re: Painted Attic
Richard,
Thanks, yes, I made it clear to the client (he saw the attic too) in the report that it was painted for unknown reasons. Some of the possibilities were also put forward. FD hasn't responded yet (weekend) and the realtors property disclosure says nothing about events or conditions previous. Of course not!
Rick
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05-11-2008, 02:06 PM
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