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    Default Glass panel garage door

    I inspected a 1995 house today that was the model for development at one time. There is a glass panel door from garage to house. Is this allowed?

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    Default Re: Glass panel garage door

    I can't say for sure on 1995, but I think not.

    2006 IRC
    R309.1 Opening protection.
    Openings from a private garage
    directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted.
    Other openings between the garage and residence shall
    be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 1
    3/8 inches (35
    mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less

    than 1
    3/8 inches (35 mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.


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    Thanks Rick!!!

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    There ARE 20/45/60/90-minute fire-rated glass doors.

    Check the door/jamb/frame for a rating plate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr. View Post
    There ARE 20/45/60/90-minute fire-rated glass doors.

    Check the door/jamb/frame for a rating plate.
    While "There ARE" those fire rated doors, it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to find one in a residence, much less one with a glass in it - yes, check the jamb/frame/door edge for a rating plate, but it is highly unlikely that one will find the door to be a fire rated door in a residence.

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    I think it is MORE than likely, especially since the home was part of a development, occupied by the builder, as a model home/office for the development. More esp. in former UBC territory circa 1995.

    Few AHJs would overlook a 20-minute rating requirement for door separating residence and attached garage, especially one gaining occupancy of a public nature, early on in the development as a builder's model/office.


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    Quote Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr. View Post
    I think it is MORE than likely, especially since the home was part of a development, occupied by the builder, as a model home/office for the development. More esp. in former UBC territory circa 1995.

    Few AHJs would overlook a 20-minute rating requirement for door separating residence and attached garage, especially one gaining occupancy of a public nature, early on in the development as a builder's model/office.
    Did the UBC REQUIRE a 20 minute rated door, or was it like the other codes 'one of the options'? Do you have the code section where that 20 minute door is REQUIRED?

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    Default Re: Glass panel garage door

    If its got glass it "ain't" one of the "other options".


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    Quote Originally Posted by H.G. Watson, Sr. View Post
    If its got glass it "ain't" one of the "other options".

    DUH!

    And it its got glass it "ain't" necessarily a fire rated door option either.

    Jeez, Watson, get off your high rocking horse and think, man, think. Just because "If its got glass it "ain't" one of the "other options"." DOES NOT MEAN it is "the other option" (i.e., a fire rated door), it PROBABLY means it "ain't" any of the allowable options.

    Jeez.

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    Default Re: Glass panel garage door

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Rees View Post
    I inspected a 1995 house today that was the model for development at one time.
    My guess is that the when the CO was issued, the garage was the sales office, so the glass in the door was not a problem. When the model home is sold most tract builders remove the french doors, install the garage door and move on.


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    Default Re: Glass panel garage door

    I've seen where a door with glass replaced the solid door after the final inspection was done.

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    Default Re: Glass panel garage door

    Hey there,
    Other than wire meshed glazing and ceramic glazing, does anyone know if other types of glazing are permitted in man doors....such as tempered glass?
    Couldn't locate any labels on the unit I looked at today.
    Appreciate any feedback.
    R


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Souter View Post
    Couldn't locate any labels on the unit I looked at today.

    No label = not a fire rated door = not allowed unless it meets what Rick posted:
    - 2006 IRC
    - - R309.1 Opening protection. Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openings between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 13/8 inches (35 mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 13/8 inches (35 mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Souter View Post
    Hey there,
    Other than wire meshed glazing and ceramic glazing, does anyone know if other types of glazing are permitted in man doors....such as tempered glass?
    Couldn't locate any labels on the unit I looked at today.
    Appreciate any feedback.
    R
    Sure, Tempered glass, laminated glass, laminated tempered glass

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