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    Default Window in shower

    This window is in a tub enclosure. The bottom of the window is 20 inches from the top of the tub and is not safty glass. Someone installed a shower head and it is hitting the window. I am wondering how to comment on this in my report other then recommending safety glass there is the issue of water from the shower head hitting the window and sill?

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    Default Re: Window in shower

    Quote Originally Posted by cliff douthit View Post
    This window is in a tub enclosure. The bottom of the window is 20 inches from the top of the tub and is not safty glass.
    The requirement for it to be safety glass is 60 inches above the bottom of the tub (measure from where you stand).

    At 20 inches above the top of the tub (which is roughly 16 inches to 24 inches high unless it is a deep spa type tub) that would make the window about 40 inches high, give or take a few inches. If the tub was 30 inches or so deep, with the floor of the tub a couple of inches above the floor underneath the tub, that would roughly put the floor of the tub 28 inches below where you measured, so even then the window would only be at 48 inches or so high - still well below the 60 inches height.

    Someone installed a shower head and it is hitting the window. I am wondering how to comment on this in my report other then recommending safety glass there is the issue of water from the shower head hitting the window and sill?
    Many tubs/showers have windows, most eventually cause problems from leakage down into the wall.

    Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
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    Many tubs/showers have windows, most eventually cause problems from leakage down into the wall.[/quote]

    I agree, but to installing a window so low that water is hitting the glass and flowing off the sill seems like bad design. I not sure how to report. I fill I should report something?


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    Default Re: Window in shower

    Quote Originally Posted by cliff douthit View Post
    I not sure how to report. I fill I should report something?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    The requirement for it to be safety glass is 60 inches above the bottom of the tub (measure from where you stand).
    I.e., report that the glass is supposed to be safety glass (do not say tempered, say "safety glass", tempered is safety glass, but not all safety glass is tempered).

    Then add:
    Many tubs/showers have windows, most eventually cause problems from leakage down into the wall.


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    Default Re: Window in shower

    Depending on the situation, I will sometimes recommend a plastic curtain, sometimes recommend they replace the window.
    If the window is not needed for ventilation, they can remove it. Sometimes they can fill the opening with glass blocks.

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    Default Re: Window in shower

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    The requirement for it to be safety glass is 60 inches above the bottom of the tub (measure from where you stand).

    At 20 inches above the top of the tub (which is roughly 16 inches to 24 inches high unless it is a deep spa type tub) that would make the window about 40 inches high, give or take a few inches. If the tub was 30 inches or so deep, with the floor of the tub a couple of inches above the floor underneath the tub, that would roughly put the floor of the tub 28 inches below where you measured, so even then the window would only be at 48 inches or so high - still well below the 60 inches height.



    Many tubs/showers have windows, most eventually cause problems from leakage down into the wall.
    Thanks, very helpful, I also noted that code says water proof meterial on shower stall walls 70 inches above drain (not exact quote). I did offer a few of your suggestions. Thank again


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    Default Re: Window in shower

    You are asking 2 questions in my opinion. Safety glass is the code required from the landing. Be it tub, whirlpool show stall landing, etc.
    The second part is water infiltration.
    Be careful.
    Water infiltration can enter any seam, deficient grouting, cracked tile of other material that addresses wail covering. It can also come in through the flooring. If the tub or whirl pool rim is sloped towards the floor ( normal ) or the shower curtain is not closed tight, to water being splashed from washing oneself.
    SUSPECT; Deficiency:

    OSHA;
    Shower and Bath Doors
    • Glass shower doors and tub enclosures should always be built using safety glass. This requirement also applies to enclosures for hot tubs, sauna, steam rooms and whirlpools. Any additional glazing within these structures should contain safety glass if the bottom edge of the glass is less than 60 inches above the floor.
    Read more: Safety Rules for Safety Glass in Doors | eHow.com Safety Rules for Safety Glass in Doors | eHow.com

    SUSPECT; Water infiltration.
    High RH in the drywall, tiles, flooring.
    Show staining in photo or describe the area. Left of doorway 30 inches from the xxxxxxx.
    RECOMMEND A LICENSED PLUMBER, TILE SPECIALIST, MAINTENANCE PERSON. Whom ever the condition falls under.
    Use you moisture meters finding and photos.
    Generalize the area unless you are sure.
    Water infiltration at the bathtub splash guard. Staining, possible Water infiltration at the walls intersection due to grouting lose. Area; Left hand or right hand faucet side, or where the wall meets the tub back-splash protect.
    Try to be descriptive.
    JMO


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    Default Re: Window in shower

    I believe that may be the home of Fred Flasher who every Saturday night puts on a performance.

    Go 49ers!

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