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    So my neighbers are s-l-o-w-l-y replacing their deck and the new design incorporates a mid-level landing off the main deck. My concern is the pre-cut stair jacks connecting main deck to landing. I'm thinkin those stair jacks are designed to have the lower portion, ( bottom ), of the jacks sitting on support. As installed, the extreme end is fitted into framing brackets. Looking at this it appears that the wood grain will just snap off in front of the bracket when under load. Opinions ?

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    Default Re: Improper Installation ?

    They need professional help.

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    Default Re: Improper Installation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Blankenship View Post
    So my neighbers are s-l-o-w-l-y replacing their deck and the new design incorporates a mid-level landing off the main deck.
    Permitted? Nope.

    The need professional help for more than just those stair stringers.

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    Strike 3 for proffesional help... this is what I love about how construction has changed, they have to water down the trade so that even stair stringers are pre cut so people like this can scratch their head and azzes at the same time...there has to be a decent carpenter out of work or slow in this economy up there in Monroe that can layout and make a code compliant set of stairs, your so right that grain will split.Keep us posted if they get a CO on this old house project.

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    It's crazy what some people will do without proper knowledge. Tell your neighbors that there are plenty of FREE deck design programs out there that will give them a proper design if they really want to do it themselves instead of hirering a decent carpenter.


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    I sometimes think that cutting stringers and installing steps has become a lost art even among the trade "professionals".

    The above statements are expressed solely as my opinion and in all probability will conflict with someone else's.
    Stu, Fredericksburg VA

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    That is comedy. It's amazing they got as far as building the deck and the landing and even gutting the stairs, but can't figure out how to make the connection. But then again, who knows what the deck looks like. Too bad they didn't hire a carpenter to start with.


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    Someone is going to get hurt or killed.


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    Liability issues usually change their minds. I would not let my children walk down them.

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    Default Re: Improper Installation ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Brooks View Post
    I sometimes think that cutting stringers and installing steps has become a lost art even among the trade "professionals".
    I couldn't agree more...it's reach epidemic proportions around here.


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    Default Re: Improper Installation ?

    The good and bad news.........the bad news is that the stringer will likely break while they are working on it.

    The good news is that if you have your video camera going, you may have an entry for stupid human tricks.


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