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Jeff,

The exception of having the weeps at the top of the windows is where they are of the self-flashing type having a continuous lap of (at a minimum) 1-1/8 inches.

The blanket statement of the tops of all windows should have weep holes, is not accurate. It is a requirement of all that are not of the self-flashing type and do not meet the minimum of 1-1/8th conintuous lap over the sheathing and opening perimeter.

Richard

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Richard Rushing, HCRI
Duncanville, Tx.

Can someone please provide the IRC code section where the weep holes above windows is discussed? I know it's not R703.7.6 or R703.8.

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From the IRC.
- R703.7.6 Weepholes. Weepholes shall be provided in the outside wythe of masonry walls at a maximum spacing of 33 inches (838 mm) on center.Weepholes shall not be less than 3/16 inch (5 mm) in diameter. Weepholes shall be located immediately above the flashing.

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Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )

R703.7.6 Weepholes. Weepholes shall be provided in the outside wythe of masonry walls at a maximum spacing of 33 inches (838 mm) on center. Weepholes shall not be less than 3/16 inch (4.8mm) in diameter.Weepholes shall be located immediately above the flashing.
R703.8 Flashing. Approved corrosion-resistive flashing shall be provided in the exterior wall envelope in such a manner as to prevent entry of water into the wall cavity or penetration of water to the building structural framing components. The flashing shall extend to the surface of the exterior wall finish and shall be installed to prevent water from reentering the exterior wall envelope. Approved corrosion-resistant flashings shall be installed at all of the following locations;1. At top of all exterior window and door openings in such a manner as to be leak proof, except that self-flashing windows having a continuous lap of not less than 1 1/8 inches (28mm) over the sheathing material around the perimeter of the opening, including corners, do not require additional flashing; jamb flashing may also be omitted when specifically approved by the building official.5. Where exterior porches, decks or stairs attach to a wallor floor assembly of wood-frame construction.6. At wall and roof intersections.


Richard

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"If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?"
Richard Rushing, HCRI
Duncanville, Tx.

Richard,

Could you point out and direct me to where 703.8 Flashing, addresses anything about weepholes? Guess my eyes are going bad.

Thanks.

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Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )

O.K. JP--

Lets start with this;
"Weepholes shall be located immediately above the flashing"
(Last sentenance--R703.7.6 Weepholes. Weepholes shall be provided in the outside wythe of masonry walls at a maximum spacing of 33 inches (838 mm) on center. Weepholes shall not be less than 3/16 inch (4.8mm) in diameter.Weepholes shall be located immediately above the flashing.)

Windows are flashed, except self-flashed windows...

You asked: "Richard,
Could you point out and direct me to where 703.8 Flashing, addresses anything about weepholes?

Guess my eyes are going bad."

Okey Dokey...
R703.8 Flashing.... (blah, blah...) Approved corrosion-resistant flashings shall be installed at all of the following locations;1. At top of all exterior window and door openings in such a manner as to be leak proof, except that self-flashing windows having a continuous lap of not less than 1 1/8 inches (28mm) over the sheathing material around the perimeter of the opening, including corners, do not require additional flashing;

No flashing required... no weep holes required.

Dokey-Okey??

Rich

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"If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?"
Richard Rushing, HCRI
Duncanville, Tx.

Thom, We don't see many over windows and garage doors around here - you know that. I use to call it - got sick of wasting my time - city doesn't give a sh.. -- just like the 2 x 4 purlins with the 2 x 6 rafters - I keep calling those - damned near every house -- sometimes they get fixed - so I've heard.

Rich, Are you yelling or just writing big enough for Jerrys old tired eyes?

Richard
The way I read 703.8 is, NO ADDITIONAL flashing is needed, not that no weep holes are needed.
All windows need flashing, some come with the flashing built in so they do not need more flashing. But they do have flashing.
703.7.6 states all flashings need to have weep holes.

So unless the window has a 3/16 diameter weep hole in it from the factory, then weep holes need to be in the masonry.

Maybe I reading it wrong though.

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Rick Cantrell
Columbus GA

So, for those of us who are sometimes code blind, 703.7.6 says, Weepholes shall be located immediately above the flashing. Going to 703.7.5 Flashing: ....including structural floors, shelf angles and lintels....then it follows that weep hoiles are needed over windows. Correct?

When reading this stuff, I noticed sustantial differences in R703.8 between the 2003 and 2006 publications. From 2006:

R703.8 Flashing. Approved corrosion-resistive flashing shall be provided in the exterior wall envelope in such a manner as to prevent entry of water into the wall cavity or penetration of water to the building structural framing components. The flashing shall extend to the surface of the exterior wall finish. Approved corrosion-resistant flashings shall be installed at all of the following locations;1. Exterior window and door openings. Flashing at exterior window and door openings shall extend to the surface of the exterior wall finish or to the water- resistive barrier for subsequent drainage.

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The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
- Paul Fix

Correct

And aren't self-flashed windows, by definition, "flashed"?


Thus, the weep holes still go above the "flashing".

Even on self-flashed windows.

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Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
Construction Litigation Consultants, LLC ( www.ConstructionLitigationConsultants.com )

Thom,

Thanks, for posting the 2006 update. Big difference...

Rich

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"If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?"
Richard Rushing, HCRI
Duncanville, Tx.

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