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    I was in a house today that was tri level. The lowest floor was sub grade and there was a room that you either entered via the bathroom and/or adjacent door.
    Doest the fact that there were no windows but two doors, eliminate this room from having to comply with the emergency escape egress code? For the record I'd say no, but it's worth getting another opinion.

    I'm asking because the definition does not specifically say "to the exterior" so is it implied?

    EMERGENCY ESCAPE AND RESCUE OPENING.
    An operable exterior window, door or similar device that provides
    for a means of escape and access for rescue in the event of an
    emergency.


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    Default Re: Egress

    Do both door lead directly to outdoors? Not to stairs, but go thru the door and be in the great outdoors?
    If so then a second door counts as emergency egress. If not, then it does not count.

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    awwww...I knew I forgot something. The doors lead to an interior hallway etc...

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    If the room doesn't have a door or window of the proper size to the exterior, then the room cannot be used as a bedroom. It can, however, be used for anything else.

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    Default Re: Egress

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Funderburk View Post
    If the room doesn't have a door or window of the proper size to the exterior, then the room cannot be used as a bedroom. It can, however, be used for anything else.
    It can be used as a bedroom and rooms like this are used as bedrooms all the time. It's not supposed to be used as a bedroom, but that is a different story.

    Corey


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Funderburk View Post
    If the room doesn't have a door or window of the proper size to the exterior, then the room cannot be used as a bedroom. It can, however, be used for anything else.
    Depends on what it may be used for, some 'non-bedroom' rooms require natural light and ventilation requirements be met while other 'non-bedroom' rooms have no requirements for same ("habitable" rooms and spaces versus "non-habitable" rooms and spaces), and sometimes the adjacent rooms or spaces can affect the use of room or space in question as they may, or may not, provide/allow for the required natural light and ventilation to the room to the room in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Depends on what it may be used for, some 'non-bedroom' rooms require natural light and ventilation requirements be met while other 'non-bedroom' rooms have no requirements for same ("habitable" rooms and spaces versus "non-habitable" rooms and spaces), and sometimes the adjacent rooms or spaces can affect the use of room or space in question as they may, or may not, provide/allow for the required natural light and ventilation to the room to the room in question.
    Another way to say the same thing,

    Εξαρτάται από το τι μπορεί να χρησιμοποιηθεί για, δωμάτια, μερικά μη-υπνοδωμάτιο απαιτούν φυσικό φωτισμό και αερισμό απαιτήσεις πρέπει να πληρούνται, ενώ άλλα δωμάτια μη-υπνοδωμάτιο δεν έχουν απαιτήσεις για την ίδια (κατοικήσιμος δωμάτια και χώρους έναντι μη κατοικήσιμα τα δωμάτια και τους χώρους), και μερικές φορές τα γειτονικά δωμάτια ή χώρους μπορούν να επηρεάσουν τη χρήση του δωματίου ή χώρου σε ερώτηση που μπορεί, ή δεν μπορεί να παράσχει / λαμβάνει υπόψη τον απαιτούμενο φυσικό φωτισμό και εξαερισμό στο δωμάτιο στο δωμάτιο εν λόγω

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    There is no such thing as a "bedroom" in the code. It is a "sleeping room". Also, the code states that the emergency escape opening "...shall open directly into a public way, or to a yard or court that opens to a public way" (see definitions for "yard" and "court" in chapter 2).

    Thom Huggett, PE, SE, CBO

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    Default Re: Egress

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Huggett View Post
    There is no such thing as a "bedroom" in the code. It is a "sleeping room". Also, the code states that the emergency escape opening "...shall open directly into a public way, or to a yard or court that opens to a public way" (see definitions for "yard" and "court" in chapter 2).
    Hi Thom,

    You are correct that the code uses the word sleeping room and not bedroom. To some degree this is semantics and not relevant especially as it pertains to home inspections. The common lingo of life is bedroom and we all understand what that means. Real estate agents, appraisers, builders and good old common folk, use the word bedroom. Im sure there are exceptions but Id wager that it is not the norm.

    Sincerely,

    Corey


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