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Old 04-22-2008, 07:06 PM
Michael Vasquez Michael Vasquez is offline
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Flex Gas Connector
I am not sure if it is acceptable to have two gas flex connectors together to make one long one at a gas range. The length of the two does not exceed 6ft.

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Old 04-22-2008, 08:10 PM
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---- is acceptable to have two gas flex connectors together ---
Not according to The Manufactures Installation Instructions.
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:54 AM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Michael:

See the highlightes dstatement on page 2 of this document:

http://www.aaronsinspections.com/Fle...0Connector.pdf

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Old 04-23-2008, 10:03 AM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Regarding the statement in that document "never re-use a gas connector".
Is that true for all or most manufacturer's installation instructions/ requirements?
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Brandon:

Yes. The document I provided is from a subsidiary of Watts Regulator. No small fish in the pond. All of the other flex connector manufacturers require the same. No re-use of connectors.

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Old 04-23-2008, 10:28 AM
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Aaron,

I appreciate you attaching the document.

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Old 04-24-2008, 12:18 AM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Michael,

If you are inspecting homes, you would be well advised to obtain a copy of and review the National Fuel Gas Code Handbook. BTW, it is not considered acceptable practice to use/connect two flex gas hose connectors together, nor are you allowed to pass a flex gas hose connector through floors, walls or ceilings. Moreover, most municipalities do not allow use of flex gas hose connectors to connect gas fired utilization equipment such as water heaters and furnaces. While you may run across this all too often, it is ordinarily not allowed and often eliminates the drip leg/gas sediment trap.

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Old 04-24-2008, 04:18 AM
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Moreover, most municipalities do not allow use of flex gas hose connectors to connect gas fired utilization equipment such as water heaters and furnaces.
Martin:

All municipalities in North Texas allow felxible appliance connectors and none require drip legs or sediment traps.

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Old 04-24-2008, 01:34 PM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Should have qualified my previous post regarding gas drip leg/sediment traps. This is in Illinois. Boy, Texas must have some exceptionally clean natural gas!
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:38 PM
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Should have qualified my previous post regarding gas drip leg/sediment traps. This is in Illinois. Boy, Texas must have some exceptionally clean natural gas!
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Nah, they just have really mobbed-up builders and building officials here. And, did I mention, lot's of bullshit?

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Old 04-24-2008, 01:42 PM
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:54 PM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Flex connectors cannot be spliced per their listing. They also cannot be reused per their listing. All flex connectors except dryers and ranges are limited to 3ft; hose two appliances are allowed 6ft.

Get a copy of the IRC Commentary instead of the NFGC unless you know NFPA 54 is still being used in your area. Most of the country is now under the IRC and thus the IFGC.

Sediment traps are required by code everywhere, regardless whether or not your inspectors call for them.

I don't know of any jurisdictions that don't allow flex connectors if properly installed.

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Old 04-26-2008, 06:01 AM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
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Sediment traps are required by code everywhere, regardless whether or not your inspectors call for them.
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There are no, I repeat no AHJs in the 10,000 square mile area that I cover that require either sediment traps or drip legs, though I agree that they are required. The Texas State Board of Plumbing Examiners also disagrees with the IRC and will not require them if asked.

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Old 04-26-2008, 07:18 PM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Arron, I don't know about you yanks in north tx; but down here in the south Tx they require drip legs and such. Though the same as you described flex lines can be run as long as it is continuess.
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:31 PM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
Billie at the bottom of your posts reads "if it doesnt chouk artie it wont choke me"
what does that mean????
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Old 04-27-2008, 06:43 AM
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Billie at the bottom of your posts reads "if it doesnt chouk artie it wont choke me"
what does that mean????
Little Rascals ( Our Gang ) sketch Porky & Buck Wheat peeling an artichoke ( like it was an orange looking for the eatable part & asks what is it? "Artichoke.") one says to the other he's not going to try it because" It might have choked Arthie but it's not going to choke him."
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:29 AM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
use tubing gas line or make a longer connector
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:54 AM
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Re: Flex Gas Connector
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Arron, I don't know about you yanks in north tx; but down here in the south Tx they require drip legs and such. Though the same as you described flex lines can be run as long as it is continuess.
Randy:

A good number of the sleazers who build up here where I am are from down there where you are. As for the low-life municipal inspectors we have, they probably figure all of the crap in the gas will run downhill to y'all down there in Clutch City and the surrounding wastelands.

It's a gravity thing,

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Old 04-27-2008, 10:47 AM
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.... " It might have choked Arthie but it's not going to choke him."
all this time I thought you were referring to Artie Lang of the Howard Stern show
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:07 PM
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Re: Flex Gas Connectors and Drip Legs/Sediment Traps
Drip legs/Sediment traps are required by the equipment manufacturers. There is a potential for swarf and other forms of crap getting in the gas line etc. Look in any installation manual in the gas piping section. Extra cost is about $10.

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Old 04-27-2008, 05:56 PM
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