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    Hello to all HI's I'm just writing to ask if any one here has ever heard of "Inspection Certification Associates". If anyone has and could tell me what they know about this HI school I would appreciate it, thank you for your time and input.

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    I looked at their website and saw nothing that impressed me. The chances that they can provide quality education for their fee is virtually nil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Ramirez View Post
    Hello to all HI's I'm just writing to ask if any one here has ever heard of "Inspection Certification Associates". If anyone has and could tell me what they know about this HI school I would appreciate it, thank you for your time and input.

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    No knowledge of them. Important to insure any training you get is a credentialed / listed source by your licensing entitiy, if there is one in your area. I trained with A.H.I.T. and they run a good program. Others can probably give you comparable sources.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Harris View Post
    If your looking for some serious training by instructors that have hands on experience , and support after the training. Check these guys out
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    Mike and Kevin both had hair in 1994 when they were my instructors! Funny I have about the same amount of hair now as I did then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Harris View Post
    If your looking for some serious training by instructors that have hands on experience , and support after the training. Check these guys out
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    wow

    "Comprehensive" 6 day home inspection training


    Really????????????????

    You know. I find it funny that in Texas one only needs 480 hours or something like that.

    That's what?? 80- days



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    Ted I agree, but the guy is in Calif. no Lic required. 6 days of training and field experience from experienced educators and inspectors, beats taking an online quiz and instantly calling and marketing himself as a "certified inspector"

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    I looked into Inspection Certification Associates ICA briefly and the address 417 E. Illinois Rt. 173, Antioch, IL is actually a UPS Store along the border with Wisconsin. Looks like a scam to me. No record of them with Illinois as a licensed business either, but an Internet search (Bizpedia) shows Inspection Certification Associates LLC registered in Wisconsin to Jeremy Robert Meadows, 29153 White Oak Lane, Waterford, WI 53185. It looks like he's reselling another school's training to make a fast buck.

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    The address on the Inspection Certification Associates website has now been changed to 332 S. Michigan Ave. Suite 1032-C286, which belongs to The Mail Center of Chicago, Inc., a re-mailing service popular with telemarketers who want to hide their offices, not the school's physical location which could be in another state. The mail center advertises, "Have a confidential Chicago mailing address for pennies a day!" If it's a legitimate school, it will have a real office somewhere, otherwise how would you ever get your money back or file a complaint? There is no protection period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Ramirez View Post
    Hello to all HI's I'm just writing to ask if any one here has ever heard of "Inspection Certification Associates". If anyone has and could tell me what they know about this HI school I would appreciate it, thank you for your time and input.

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    Interesting school, what are the courses they are offering, how many years are they in the industry? There are numerous sites that can offer teaching and info about home inspection and ACs. Air Conditioning Repair San Fernando


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Ramirez View Post
    Hello to all HI's I'm just writing to ask if any one here has ever heard of "Inspection Certification Associates". If anyone has and could tell me what they know about this HI school I would appreciate it, thank you for your time and input.

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    I am the course author of the training program offered by Inspection Certification Associates, and I can assure everyone that it is a state-of-the-art inspection education program, completely up-to-date for 2014. My track record speaks for itself, as I have provided education sessions at many, many national, regional and local inspection events. Some of the comments in this thread puzzle me, as I am clearly listed as the Director of Education on the home page, with a link directly to my bio. The company is located in Chicago, as am I. The ICA program has a lower price point than other schools with similar curricula simply because we have decided to make the education available to the many folks who may have experienced financial setbacks over the last few years and cannot come up with the hefty fees some schools are asking for. I am responding to this thread because several folks have recently contacted me to sort out the facts, and anyone else with questions on the program may feel free to do the same (or you can simply google up "Steve Preins" and see for yourself).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Preins View Post
    I am the course author of the training program offered by Inspection Certification Associates, and I can assure everyone that it is a state-of-the-art inspection education program, completely up-to-date for 2014. My track record speaks for itself, as I have provided education sessions at many, many national, regional and local inspection events. Some of the comments in this thread puzzle me, as I am clearly listed as the Director of Education on the home page, with a link directly to my bio. The company is located in Chicago, as am I. The ICA program has a lower price point than other schools with similar curricula simply because we have decided to make the education available to the many folks who may have experienced financial setbacks over the last few years and cannot come up with the hefty fees some schools are asking for. I am responding to this thread because several folks have recently contacted me to sort out the facts, and anyone else with questions on the program may feel free to do the same (or you can simply google up "Steve Preins" and see for yourself).

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    Steve thank you for your reply good info you posted even thou it's only about two years after my original posting of question. Better late than never I suppose.

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Ramirez View Post
    Steve thank you for your reply good info you posted even thou it's only about two years after my original posting of question. Better late than never I suppose.

    Thanks again

    Rick
    Well, Rick, I am seldom on this board, and this thread only came to my attention recently. My point was, if anyone has questions about our program, they should ask us directly, and not well-intentioned folks on this board who do not know of the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Preins View Post
    Well, Rick, I am seldom on this board, and this thread only came to my attention recently. My point was, if anyone has questions about our program, they should ask us directly, and not well-intentioned folks on this board who do not know of the program.

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    Steve thank you for the reply. But my post was to get an unbiased views of the school. To which I was unable to find any that have ever attended the school. And yes I did do the obvious and called the school and got school information. But as I mentioned the posting was to get unbiased views. I'm sure your ok with one doing their research?

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    All they are going to give you is class formatted books to read, while this can give you a good deal of learning it is not the same as any sort of hands on instructor lead education would be, but instructor lead education is going to cost alot more. If you just want page click through reading education I suggest joining InterNACHI they are a full inspector association that includes alot of help building and marketing your business including hundreds of web courses that will be just as good if not better than the school your looking at.


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    Which may not be saying much.


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    Default Re: Home inspection school - Inspection Certification Associiates

    Just whats needed another home inspection school watering down the gene pool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond Wand View Post
    Just whats needed another home inspection school watering down the gene pool.
    Here Here brother...

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    Brian needs to provide CEUs for the information on this board - if a new inspector reads all of the posts made over the preceding 10 years (which goes back to the old board), then that new inspector gets a certificate which is worth as much as the other paper certificates from the other schools ... except that the knowledge gained reading this board combines all types of knowledge about all types of things from all different locations around the country ... that should put that inspector head and shoulders above the certificate holders from the other schools.

    Brian could, I'm sure, create a tracking app which would document and track that each of the previous posts has been read (which is not a guaranty that the information was retained), the app would let the inspector know how many posts have been read and how many more are left to read.



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    I echo Jerry's views. There is a wealth of real time info here on this forum from a diversity of inspectors and geographically.

    And as far as I am concerned all associations should permit active participants to gain CEU's per their participation. Five CEU's per year would be suitable in my view.


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    I added bold and underlining to the key word:
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    And as far as I am concerned all associations should permit active participants to gain CEU's per their participation. Five CEU's per year would be suitable in my view.
    Inspectors who are already members of an association, not just new inspectors coming into the business would be required to *participate* in the discussions and information.

    New inspectors can learn so much by just reading all the information, and reading that information will, I am sure, lead to participation on the part of new inspectors as the information would raise questions for them to ask ... and raise information that they know which we do not know, they could post that information so we could learn from them.

    Think of the information which could be found here, and shared here, if every inspector *participated* - WOW! Now, that would be cool!


    And all *participants* would be winners ...

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    I do not know of Inspection Certification Associates but I do know Steve Preins and have known him for several years. He puts on some of the best CE classes that we have in our area and if I were to fault his programs it'd be that not enough inspectors attend them.

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    I do not know of Inspection Certification Associates but I do know Steve Preins and have known him for several years. He puts on some of the best CE classes that we have in our area and if I were to fault his programs it'd be that not enough inspectors attend them.

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    Steve,
    Where in Chicago is this school located and who is the owner? The address on the ICA website has been changed to 332 S. Michigan Ave. Suite 1032-C286, but belongs to The Mail Center of Chicago, Inc., a re-mailing service popular with telemarketers, not the school's real location. It surprises me that you are responding in this forum rather than the business owner who is the responsible party. No one questions your credentials, but if people are contacting you personally to sort things out for a business that you do not own then there is a problem. You should not be puzzled that people have a right to a fair and unbiased review of a school and know truthfully where it is located and who collects the tuition. There is no one reading this forum who would disagree that potential students have a right to know the school's real address and owner if you are going to vouch for them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Preins View Post
    I am the course author of the training program offered by Inspection Certification Associates, and I can assure everyone that it is a state-of-the-art inspection education program, completely up-to-date for 2014. My track record speaks for itself, as I have provided education sessions at many, many national, regional and local inspection events. Some of the comments in this thread puzzle me, as I am clearly listed as the Director of Education on the home page, with a link directly to my bio. The company is located in Chicago, as am I. The ICA program has a lower price point than other schools with similar curricula simply because we have decided to make the education available to the many folks who may have experienced financial setbacks over the last few years and cannot come up with the hefty fees some schools are asking for. I am responding to this thread because several folks have recently contacted me to sort out the facts, and anyone else with questions on the program may feel free to do the same (or you can simply google up "Steve Preins" and see for yourself).

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    - if a new inspector reads all of the posts made over the preceding 10 years (which goes back to the old board), then that new inspector gets a certificate which is worth as much as the other paper certificates from the other schools ... except that the knowledge gained reading this board combines all types of knowledge about all types of things from all different locations around the country ... that should put that inspector head and shoulders above the certificate holders from the other schools.
    Feb will be ten years in the business for me. The first years were lean and I spent a lot of time reading this and other forums. I did read every reply to every post on this forum. I was able to view photos of problems and read the discussion about potential causes, possible solutions, as well as the various code citations regarding the condition often years before I ever saw the condition myself. I know from attending HI association meetings that I was more knowledgeable than many of those attending. It has served me well all these years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Barker View Post
    I do not know of Inspection Certification Associates but I do know Steve Preins and have known him for several years. He puts on some of the best CE classes that we have in our area and if I were to fault his programs it'd be that not enough inspectors attend them.
    Since you've known Steve Preins for some time, any guesses as to how many actual home inspections/reports he's performed during those years?


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    I don't know why anyone would pay for pre-licensing classes in Illinois now that InterNachi has their entire state compliant curriculum online for absolutely no charge. Someone who is interested in getting their IL HI license can get all the course work for free in the comfort of their own home and then they can hook up with a practicing/active IL HI and get their field work done and signed off on.

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    I don't know why anyone would pay for pre-licensing classes in Illinois now that InterNachi has their entire state compliant curriculum online for absolutely no charge. Someone who is interested in getting their IL HI license can get all the course work for free in the comfort of their own home and then they can hook up with a practicing/active IL HI and get their field work done and signed off on.

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    I don't know why anyone would pay for pre-licensing classes in Illinois now that InterNachi has their entire state compliant curriculum online for absolutely no charge. Someone who is interested in getting their IL HI license can get all the course work for free in the comfort of their own home and then they can hook up with a practicing/active IL HI and get their field work done and signed off on.

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    I don't know why anyone would pay for pre-licensing classes in Illinois now that InterNachi has their entire state compliant curriculum online for absolutely no charge. Someone who is interested in getting their IL HI license can get all the course work for free in the comfort of their own home and then they can hook up with a practicing/active IL HI and get their field work done and signed off on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Ramirez View Post
    Steve thank you for your reply good info you posted even thou it's only about two years after my original posting of question. Better late than never I suppose.

    Thanks again

    Rick
    The reason I took the trouble to register for this forum and reply to this thread, is that when you do a search for Inspection Certification Associates reviews, TODAY, April 29th, 2017, there is a very obviously uninformed comment, offered as an answer to your question about wanting an informed opinion of Inspection Certification Associates and their online course offering. When I say uninformed, I simply mean a comment by someone that shouldn't have offered any comments on this organization, or it's course offerings, simply because they did not participate in the course they were advising against. I'm not talking about your comment, Rick, about Steve Prein's post being "better late than never", but in this case, a post by another member, Eric Barker.
    I am only replying to this old thread because it still, today, gets a very prominant hit from Google users, searching on reviews for ICA.

    See the comment below that I was originally referencing:

    "Eric Barker Re: Home inspection school - Inspection Certification Associiates I looked at their website and saw nothing that impressed me. The chances that they can provide quality education for their fee is virtually nil".


    I too was interested in their course, because it was less expensive than most other offerings I had looked at and having been unemployed for going on six months, at that time, cost was a very definite consideration.

    I did purchase their course and complete it. I have been extremely satisfied, more so, than I originally thought I would be.
    Their course includes a free one year membership with ASHI, A very informative bonus module on using drones in home inspections, (something that I have been very interested in and am currenty using for roof inspections and real estate aerial photography),
    a link to a study guide that has over 700 NHIE examiniation questions authored by the same organization that developed the NHIE exam and 2 optional Marketing modules containing about 8 hours of marketing instruction, that I have since determined to be very spot on and valuable to my business.

    I only have a couple of years of background in construction, having worked as a framing carpenter, way back in 2000-02.

    The most honest and impressive endorsement I can give Inspection Certification Associates for their online course offerings, is that I passed the NHIE exam by a comfortable margin, the first time I took it. I'm not saying that that makes me smart, or by any means an expert in home inspection, because I am most certainly not. I am a beginning "newbie" to the home inspection profession. But, and I only learned this after passing the exam, that only 30% of first time NHIE exam takers, even pass the exam on the first try. So for someone with somewhat limited, trade experience from several decades ago, I am extremely pleased with the course offering I took from Inspection Certification Associates. I found it to be a very informative and comprehensive program, that definitely allowed me to acomplish my objective of passsing the NHIE exam.

    While I was completing my 30 hours of field training and participating in the 10 required live home inspections, with a Louisiana State approved Home Inspector/Home Inspector instructor that Louisiana requires for licensing, with two other field trainee's that did NOT attend ICA's online course, I felt that I was at least as well prepared and knowlegable as they were and both of them had considerably more and recent, trade experience than I did. Our field instructor was a long time home inspector and prior board member of the Louisiana State Board of Home Inspectors. He said after working with me on the required in-field training, that the online course that I had taken before coming to him, had prepared me well for the in-field training.
    The fact that I was able to pass the NHIE exam as well, is further proof, at least to me, that the course was exactly what I needed, at a price that also worked very well for me given the circumstances that I was in at time, being then unemployed for about 6 months.

    Rick, I realize that as old as this post is, my reply does nothing for you. Sorry about that.... Hopefully though, the next time someone does a search from Google about reviews for ICA and gets a hit on Eric Barker's "review", mabe they will read a little further and get a much more accurate "review" of Inspection Certifiction Associates' course, by someone that actually went through their course.
    Eric, I have no doubt you are very knowlegable and experienced and I mean no disrespect to you or to questiuon anything about your experience or abilities. I just wish that since you hadn't actually take the course that I did take, that you wouldn't have given them such a negative "review", with no real first-hand experience of their offering. That's all.

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    I don't know if their material is out of date, but their website certainly is. They still have NAHI logos on it. NAHI is out of business.

    And I'm not finding any governmental approvals for them.

    Here are InterNACHI's: InterNACHI's inspection courses and exams are the most recognized, approved and accredited in the inspection industry. - InterNACHI

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    Anyone else catch the contradiction Lisa made?








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    No, enlighten us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    No, enlighten us.
    LMFAO!

    That was good......I caught it Jerry.

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    Please enlighten us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    Please enlighten us all.
    All in due time, Lisa/Nick/whoever you really are ... first checking to see how many other see it when they read what you wrote ... really is quite hilarious ... and even more hilarious that you don't see it - especially being in charge of communication, et al, and all the claims made in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza
    I don't know if their material is out of date, but their website certainly is. They still have NAHI logos on it. NAHI is out of business.

    And I'm not finding any governmental approvals for them.


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    I don't see it. Are you going to explain or are you full of crap again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    I don't see it. Are you going to explain or are you full of crap again?
    Patience is a virtue ...

    Not being able to read what one writes is not a virtue ...

    All of your blustering posts about so little of nothing - with so many posts about so little of nothing ... your mind must be going in circles trying to figure it out, yet it is so simple.

    Your lack of patience explains, to a small extent, why there are so many posts about so little of nothing from you.

    Show us at least one virtue ... that of patience.

    To any and all others - how many have seen it? Don't say what it is, just a 'Got it.' will do. Cool, huh?

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    You sound like a little boy I knew in 2nd grade who always claimed he knew some secret that he could never reveal. He was a sissy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    You sound like a little boy I knew in 2nd grade who always claimed he knew some secret that he could never reveal. He was a sissy too.
    That is the most professional response you have made yet on any subject ... and the most revealing too as it confirms what many have thought of you and your posts.

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    http://www.inspectionnews.net/home_i...tml#post271933

    Lisa proclaimed:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza
    Nick Gromicko is now the Executive Director of NAHI
    Now Lisa has proclaimed:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Endza View Post
    NAHI is out of business.


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    Lisa proclaimed:


    Now Lisa has proclaimed:


    Wait......I thought Nick was suing NAHI?

    LOL....

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