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    Doe the ground bar in the panel on the right require and equipement grounding condutor. A four cable feeder was note used.

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    Trying to get some better pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew stouffer View Post
    Trying to get some better pics.
    Matt

    None of the panels appears to be service equipment.


    So I am assuming that the service equipment is in the form of 2 disconnects located outside by the meter. If that is the case then all 3 panels need 4 wire feeders.


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    Roger,
    That is the case. Thank you, I thought so, but had a brain lapse yesterday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew stouffer View Post
    Doe the ground bar in the panel on the right require and equipement grounding condutor.
    Yes.

    A four cable feeder was note used.
    You mean "not used" or "noted as used"?

    I see black, red, white and ground from the feeder cable into the bottom of that panel.

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    Jerry, Not. That is just my utah accent, Note


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    Jerry do you have xray vision


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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew stouffer View Post
    Jerry do you have xray vision
    No, otherwise I could not see the black, red, white, and ground wires, I would only 'see' through the cabinet into the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    No, otherwise I could not see the black, red, white, and ground wires, I would only 'see' through the cabinet into the wall.
    Jerry

    I can't tell for sure on the far right panel... but the panel that the feeder originates ( middle panel ) I'm not seeing the egc. I magnify that panel using ctrl +++++ and I do not see it only 3 wires black. red and white.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Frazee View Post
    Jerry

    I can't tell for sure on the far right panel... but the panel that the feeder originates ( middle panel ) I'm not seeing the egc. I magnify that panel using ctrl +++++ and I do not see it only 3 wires black. red and white.
    Roger,

    In the left panel is see the feeder coming in from the top near the left corner, and I see two blacks, what might be a white fuzzy shadow in the back, and near that fuzzy shadow is another even fuzzier shadow which might be the grounding conductor.

    The center panel feeder is also coming in from the top near the left corner, it is clearly SER cable with two blacks and a white behind them, with stranded aluminum outer wrapped ground pulled off to the left side. I believe that is the fuzzier shadow I see in the left panel too.

    The right panel is what I was referring to and it is shown most clearly with the feeder coming up through the bottom - which happens to look a lot like the feeder going out the bottom of the center panel - and it has a black, red, white is behind the black and bent back behind the red, with what looks like the grounding conductor coming out and bending to the left.

    At 1,000% zoom it starts to get a bit pixelated to make much out, better at 200% zoom, beyond 300% it starts to get fuzzy and pixelated (is that even a word and even spelled correctly if it is?).

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    You could be right I just can't get it clear enough to tell


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