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    Default Splicing new to old

    Home was built in 1952.

    The utilities were off.

    The main was an FPE in the garage. 1st picture.

    The 2nd & 3rd photos are the original main in a 1st floor closet where they connected the new to the old. (This is were my questions are)

    The 4th & 5th photos are of the new distribution (sub) panel in the basement.

    Is this acceptable to tape the old to new wires in this fashion.

    I did note there are some neutrals & grounds not isolated.

    The buyers are under the impression that the home has a updated service. The only item updated is the distribution panel.

    Home has all original wiring, FPE main, ungrounded outlets, K & T.


    Thanks

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    Default Re: Splicing new to old

    Quote Originally Posted by David Macy View Post
    (This is were my questions are)
    And your questions are?

    Jerry Peck, Construction / Litigation Consultant
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    Default Re: Splicing new to old

    I certainly would not characterize what you have shown us in the photos and described in your post as an "updated service".

    It looks/sounds to me like an old outdated system that just happens to have one new piece of equipment in place.

    As far as the tape goes, I don't have a problem with it as long as there is an appropriately made mechanical connection for the wiring below the tape.


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    Default Re: Splicing new to old

    What Philip said.

    The old fuse panel is being used as a junction box.

    No to being updated service. Yes, to removing the fuse panel and essentially replacing it with a new equipment panel.

    Rich


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    Default Re: Splicing new to old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    And your questions are?
    Is this acceptable to tape the old to new wires in this fashion.


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    Default Re: Splicing new to old

    What Philip said: "As far as the tape goes, I don't have a problem with it as long as there is an appropriately made mechanical connection for the wiring below the tape."

    RR


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    Default Re: Splicing new to old

    Tell your client to tell their insurance carrier about the ungrounded outlets and the K&T. More than anything, the carrier's reply will encourage a true upgrade.

    Eric Barker, ACI
    Lake Barrington, IL

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    Default Re: Splicing new to old

    One problem I see is that the neutral and ground need to be isolated. While they may be on different bus bars, the uninsulated neutral is surely making contact with the metal panel and therefore the ground.


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