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    Default GFCI breaker for multiple rooms

    I inspected a home today where a 20A GFCI breaker served the bathroom, the bathroom fan, the bath vanity lights and the recessed lights in two other rooms.

    Is this OK to do or is this a code issue?

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    Default Re: GFCI breaker for multiple rooms

    That is okay. It is one of the options.

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    Default Re: GFCI breaker for multiple rooms

    This is a copy & paste from the 2008 NEC 210.11(C) (3).

    (3) Bathroom Branch Circuits. In addition to the number
    of branch circuits required by other parts of this section, at
    least one 20-ampere branch circuit shall be provided to
    supply bathroom receptacle outlet(s). Such circuits shall
    have no other outlets.

    Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single
    bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same
    bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance
    with 210.23(A)(1) and (A)(2).
    FPN: See Examples D1(a), D1(b), D2(b), and D4(a) in
    Annex D.

    The issue of the OP's post would depend on the NEC in effect at the time of the work was performed, it does not comply w/ the 2008, & nor does it comply w/ the 2005 which is when that change first came into the NEC, if that was done before those 2 editions then it's fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollie Meyers View Post
    This is a copy & paste from the 2008 NEC 210.11(C) (3).

    (3) Bathroom Branch Circuits. In addition to the number
    of branch circuits required by other parts of this section, at
    least one 20-ampere branch circuit shall be provided to
    supply bathroom receptacle outlet(s). Such circuits shall
    have no other outlets.

    Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single
    bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same
    bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance
    with 210.23(A)(1) and (A)(2).
    FPN: See Examples D1(a), D1(b), D2(b), and D4(a) in
    Annex D.

    The issue of the OP's post would depend on the NEC in effect at the time of the work was performed, it does not comply w/ the 2008, & nor does it comply w/ the 2005 which is when that change first came into the NEC, if that was done before those 2 editions then it's fine.
    Rollie,

    You said "it does not comply w/ the 2008" which you posted above, but what Ken asked does comply with that.

    Or I am missing something in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Rollie,

    You said "it does not comply w/ the 2008" which you posted above, but what Ken asked does comply with that.

    Or I am missing something in there.

    The way I see this Jerry, the problem is the lighting in the other two rooms. Either the 20 amp circuit serves only receptacle loads which can be multiple bathrooms OR the circuit can have lighting and fans etc but only serve ONE bathroom.

    All answers based on unamended National Electrical codes.

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    Default Re: GFCI breaker for multiple rooms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Port View Post
    The way I see this Jerry, the problem is the lighting in the other two rooms.
    Man, I was sitting right next to that elephant in the room and did not even see it ... you are quite correct.

    MY READING seems to be slipping lately (yes, I have to ding myself just like I have dinged others on reading) ...

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    Default Re: GFCI breaker for multiple rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Rollie Meyers
    This is a copy & paste from the 2008 NEC 210.11(C) (3).

    (3) Bathroom Branch Circuits. In addition to the number
    of branch circuits required by other parts of this section, at
    least one 20-ampere branch circuit shall be provided to
    supply bathroom receptacle outlet(s). Such circuits shall
    have no other outlets
    .


    Jerry,


    The way I read this is that the bathroom circuit can have no other outlets. Doesn't that mean that lights in other rooms cannot be supplied by the bathroom cicuit?


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    Default Re: GFCI breaker for multiple rooms

    Ken
    It's in the execption

    Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single
    bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same
    bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance
    with 210.23(A)(1) and (A)(2).
    FPN: See Examples D1(a), D1(b), D2(b), and D4(a) in
    Annex D.

    ' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.

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    Ken
    I misread your question.
    You are correct.

    ' correct a wise man and you gain a friend... correct a fool and he'll bloody your nose'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Amelin View Post
    The way I read this is that the bathroom circuit can have no other outlets. Doesn't that mean that lights in other rooms cannot be supplied by the bathroom cicuit?

    Ken,

    No, think "outlets" and not "receptacle" outlets - lighting outlets are also "outlets".

    All the other electrical "outlets" in the same bathroom may be on that same 20 amp circuit.

    What I missed when I read your post was the last part about "and the recessed lights in two other rooms" - I read it as "and the recessed lights" ... I completely and totally missed the very critical "in two other rooms" part.

    The 20 amp bathroom receptacle outlet circuit may supply as many receptacle outlets in as many bathrooms as you want ... or ... one 20 amp circuit may supply ONE bathroom and as many outlets in that bathroom as you want.

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    Default Re: GFCI breaker for multiple rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Amelin View Post
    I inspected a home today where a 20A GFCI breaker served the bathroom, the bathroom fan, the bath vanity lights and the recessed lights in two other rooms.

    Is this OK to do or is this a code issue?
    I ran across the same thing. The en-suite GFCI also controlled the electrical in the master bedroom. I wrote it up as a safety concern.


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