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    Here's a panel that could be used as a training aid!

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    That caution tape is too close. It should be 6 feet back from that thing, for safety. BTW, that guy fails the final exam, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Vernon View Post
    Here's a panel that could be used as a training aid!
    Wow

    Amazing piece of work there!


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    Smile Re: Great for training panel

    Obviously, these pictures are pre-fire.

    Question, please tell me this was done by a DYI person. I'd be real disgusted if a licensed electrician did this anywhere but on his own panelboard!


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    Nice photos - good for a laugh.


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    Default Re: Great for training panel

    That panel is not a great training aid, but it is a very good example of how not to do things A proper training aid is a panel that was done in a professional & code compliant manner. Just my humble opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollie Meyers View Post
    That panel is not a great training aid, but it is a very good example of how not to do things A proper training aid is a panel that was done in a professional & code compliant manner. Just my humble opinion.
    Rollie,

    I think what he meant was that panel was a great training aid in class where a student is asked to point out what is wrong ... and the student points to the panel and says "Everything" ... that student gets an "A".

    I was thinking it would not make a good training panel because there were too many items for a student to wrap their heads around and report - they need to learn one thing at a time ... have them pick apart the 100 car pile up after they have learned enough to absorb what is being presented to them visually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Peck View Post
    Rollie,

    I think what he meant was that panel was a great training aid in class where a student is asked to point out what is wrong ... and the student points to the panel and says "Everything" ... that student gets an "A".

    I was thinking it would not make a good training panel because there were too many items for a student to wrap their heads around and report - they need to learn one thing at a time ... have them pick apart the 100 car pile up after they have learned enough to absorb what is being presented to them visually.
    I think they are going to need the "use extra paper if needed for your answer" option for this test. OMG, don't think I've ever seen a quadruple tap before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Vernon View Post
    Here's a panel that could be used as a training aid!
    Now Rick never said it was going to be a training aid for 'electricians'. More appropriately a 'perfectly wired panel should be used to illustrate the 'right way'; a hell of a lot easier than showing the newbies a multitude of 'wrong ways' to make it FUBAR.
    I would think he meant a 'training aid' for ER or the morgue!


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    HA HA HA!!!! You gotta go out of your way to do stuff that wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Lottatore View Post
    Now Rick never said it was going to be a training aid for 'electricians'.
    I thought he meant a training aid for home inspectors.

    I would think he meant a 'training aid' for ER or the morgue!
    Agreed!

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    Quad tapped I'm impressed !


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    Never seen quad tapping, eh? How 'bout this quad tapping example?

    By the way, lots more wrong with this panel, AND the other 3 main panels (fed from here) and 4 subpanels in the home. My client (an electrical engineer at a power plant) and I (a mechanical engineer) were rolling on the floor laughing after I pulled the cover off.

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    Too much beer drinking on those cold Michigan winter days with nothing to do but play around with electricity to try and stay warm.


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    Bruce - doesn't qualify for quad tapping, NEC 2020.69 All four conductors must be resonably secured under a single screw down, the paint on insulator does give you an edge, but still significantly diverges from code.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Brody View Post
    NEC 2020.69

    ????

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    Talking Re: Great for training panel

    Probably an Electricians home. You know the shoemaker syndrome.


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    for the guy who did it a capital "E" for effort!! and the short answer is where is sparkie... he has some work to do well really alot of work.... no need to go into detail there.


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